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#1 giantatx

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Posted 12 September 2016 - 11:23 AM

Hi, here's my spec.  Look forward to your reply, kind folk!

 

 
 
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Host Name : JOHNKANE-PC
Workgroup : WORKGROUP
 
Computer
Model : OEM System Product Name
Serial Number : System Ser**********
Chassis : Desktop
Mainboard : ASUS M4A88TD-M EVO
Serial Number : 1058616********
BIOS : AMI (OEM) 1801 08/09/2012
Total Memory : 8GB DIMM DDR3
 
Processors
Processor : AMD Athlon™ II X4 640 Processor (4C 3GHz, 2GHz IMC, 512kB L2)
Socket/Slot : AM2r2/AM3
 
Chipset
Memory Controller : ASUS M5A88-V EVO 2x 2GHz (4GHz)
Memory Controller : AMD F10 Athlon 64/Opteron/Sempron HT Hub 2x 2GHz (4GHz), 2x 4GB DIMM DDR3 1.34GHz 128-bit
 
Memory Module(s)
Memory Module : Corsair CM3X2G1333C9 2GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-10700U DDR3-1334 (9-9-9-24 5-34-10-5)
Memory Module : Corsair CM3X2G1333C9 2GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-10700U DDR3-1334 (9-9-9-24 5-34-10-5)
Memory Module : Corsair CM3X2G1333C9 2GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-10700U DDR3-1334 (9-9-9-24 5-34-10-5)
Memory Module : Corsair CM3X2G1333C9 2GB DIMM DDR3 PC3-10700U DDR3-1334 (9-9-9-24 5-34-10-5)
 
Video System
Monitor/Panel : Dell Computer DELL 1907FP
  (1280x1024, 19.1")
Video Adapter : AMD Radeon HD 5700 Series (10CU 800SP SM5.0 850MHz, 1GB DDR5 4.8GHz 128-bit, PCIe 2.00 x16)
 
Graphics Processor
OpenCL GP Processor : AMD Radeon HD 5700 Series (800SP 10C 850MHz, 1GB DDR5 4.8GHz 128-bit)
Compute Shader Processor : AMD Radeon HD 5700 Series (800SP 10C 850MHz, 1GB DDR5 4.8GHz 128-bit)
 
Storage Devices
SAMSUNG HD103SJ (1TB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, 32MB Cache) : 932GB (C:) (D:)
Optiarc DVD RW AD-7260S (SATA150, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache) : N/A (E:)
 
Logical Storage Devices
System Reserved : 100MB (NTFS, 4kB) @ SAMSUNG HD103SJ (1TB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, 32MB Cache)
Hard Disk (C:) : 195GB (NTFS, 4kB) @ SAMSUNG HD103SJ (1TB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, 32MB Cache)
New Volume (D:) : 684GB (NTFS, 4kB) @ SAMSUNG HD103SJ (1TB, SATA300, 3.5", 7200rpm, 32MB Cache)
Optical Drive (E:) : N/A @ Optiarc DVD RW AD-7260S (SATA150, DVD+-RW, CD-RW, 2MB Cache)
 
Peripherals
LPC Hub Controller 1 : ATI (AMD) IXP SB600/700/800 SMBUS Controller
LPC Hub Controller 2 : ASUS M5A88-V EVO
LPC Legacy Controller 1 : T2 87-21
Audio Device : ASUS M5A88-V EVO
Audio Codec : Realtek Semi High Definition Audio
Audio Device : HIS (Hightech Information Systems) EG JUNIPER XT Audio Device [Radeon HD 5700 Series]
Serial Port(s) : 1
Parallel Port(s) : 1
Disk Controller : ASUS SB700/800 SATA Controller [IDE mode]
Disk Controller : ASUS SB700/800 IDE
Disk Controller : ASUS M5A88-V EVO
USB Controller 1 : ASUS M5A88-V EVO
USB Controller 2 : ASUS M5A88-V EVO
USB Controller 3 : ASUS M5A88-V EVO
USB Controller 4 : ASUS M5A88-V EVO
USB Controller 5 : ASUS M5A88-V EVO
USB Controller 6 : ASUS M5A88-V EVO
USB Controller 7 : ASUS M5A88-V EVO
FireWire/1394 Controller 1 : ASUS M5A88-V EVO
SMBus/i2c Controller 1 : ATI SB800 SMBus
 
Printers and Faxes
Printer : Canon MP210 series Printer (USB, Colour)
 
Network Services
Network Adapter : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller #2 (Ethernet, 100Mbps)
 
Operating System
Windows System : Microsoft Windows 7 Home 6.01.7601 Service Pack 1
Platform Compliance : x64
 

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Posted 13 September 2016 - 04:51 AM

perfmon shows that the Dirty bit is set on the disk.

Please run "chkdsk /r /f" (without the quotes) from an elevated (Run as administrator) Command Prompt

If this doesn't fix it, then a full format of the hard drive is called for to reset it (and that will wipe everything off the drive).

 

Although you appear to have a reasonable number of Windows Update hotfixes for this version of your OS, please double check for any new Windows Updates.  It only takes one update to cause a problem, so it's essential that you have all of them.  The actual number is not important.  Rather it's important that you checked manually, installed any available updates, and didn't experience any errors when checking or updating.

You have Webroot , Emsisoft, and AVG running.  Please uninstall all but one as they will conflict with each other.

Only run one antivirus and one firewall at a time.

 

If this doesn't stop the BSOD's, please run Driver Verifier according to these instructions:  http://www.carrona.org/verifier.html

 

Analysis:

The following is for information purposes only. The following information contains the relevant information from the blue screen analysis:
**************************Mon Sep 12 07:33:29.465 2016 (UTC - 4:00)**************************
Loading Dump File [C:\Users\john\SysnativeBSODApps\091216-40076-01.dmp]
Windows 7 Kernel Version 7601 (Service Pack 1) MP (4 procs) Free x64
Built by: 7601.23455.amd64fre.win7sp1_ldr.160516-0600
System Uptime:0 days 0:00:41.995
Probably caused by :ntkrnlmp.exe ( nt!PspCatchCriticalBreak+92 )
BugCheck F4, {3, fffffa8009203b10, fffffa8009203df0, fffff800037d6e40}
BugCheck Info: CRITICAL_OBJECT_TERMINATION (f4)
Arguments:
Arg1: 0000000000000003, Process
Arg2: fffffa8009203b10, Terminating object
Arg3: fffffa8009203df0, Process image file name
Arg4: fffff800037d6e40, Explanatory message (ascii)
PROCESS_NAME:  wininit.exe
BUGCHECK_STR:  0xF4
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN7_DRIVER_FAULT
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: X64_0xF4_wininit.exe_BUGCHECK_CRITICAL_PROCESS_8e26980_nt!PspCatchCriticalBreak+92
  BIOS Version                  1801   
  BIOS Release Date             08/09/2012
  Manufacturer                  System manufacturer
  Baseboard Manufacturer        ASUSTeK Computer INC.
  Product Name                  System Product Name
  Baseboard Product             M4A88TD-M EVO
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**************************Sun Sep 11 15:53:02.557 2016 (UTC - 4:00)**************************
Loading Dump File [C:\Users\john\SysnativeBSODApps\091116-42650-01.dmp]
Windows 7 Kernel Version 7601 (Service Pack 1) MP (4 procs) Free x64
Built by: 7601.23455.amd64fre.win7sp1_ldr.160516-0600
System Uptime:0 days 0:00:43.712
Probably caused by :ntkrnlmp.exe ( nt!PspCatchCriticalBreak+92 )
BugCheck F4, {3, fffffa8008d3eb10, fffffa8008d3edf0, fffff8000378be40}
BugCheck Info: CRITICAL_OBJECT_TERMINATION (f4)
Arguments:
Arg1: 0000000000000003, Process
Arg2: fffffa8008d3eb10, Terminating object
Arg3: fffffa8008d3edf0, Process image file name
Arg4: fffff8000378be40, Explanatory message (ascii)
PROCESS_NAME:  wininit.exe
BUGCHECK_STR:  0xF4
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  WIN7_DRIVER_FAULT
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: X64_0xF4_wininit.exe_BUGCHECK_CRITICAL_PROCESS_90c6b50_nt!PspCatchCriticalBreak+92
  BIOS Version                  1801   
  BIOS Release Date             08/09/2012
  Manufacturer                  System manufacturer
  Baseboard Manufacturer        ASUSTeK Computer INC.
  Product Name                  System Product Name
  Baseboard Product             M4A88TD-M EVO
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The following is for information purposes only. My recommendations were given above. The drivers that follow belong to software or devices that were not developed by Microsoft.  You can find links to the driver information and where to update the drivers in the section after the code box:

**************************Mon Sep 12 07:33:29.465 2016 (UTC - 4:00)**************************
ASACPI.sys                  Wed Jul 15 23:31:29 2009 (4A5E9F11)
AsIO.sys                    Mon Aug  3 03:03:16 2009 (4A768BB4)
AtiPcie.sys                 Mon Aug 24 04:25:26 2009 (4A924E76)
amdxata.sys                 Fri Mar 19 12:18:18 2010 (4BA3A3CA)
RTKVHD64.sys                Tue Jul  6 06:05:16 2010 (4C32FFDC)
speedfan.sys                Fri Mar 18 12:08:46 2011 (4D83838E)
a2ddax64.sys                Thu May 19 08:09:43 2011 (4DD50887)
Rt64win7.sys                Fri Jun 10 02:33:15 2011 (4DF1BAAB)
SASKUTIL64.SYS              Tue Jul 12 17:00:01 2011 (4E1CB5D1)
SASDIFSV64.SYS              Thu Jul 21 19:03:00 2011 (4E28B024)
WRkrn.sys                   Wed Feb 22 22:37:53 2012 (4F45B491)
atikmpag.sys                Mon Sep 15 17:59:06 2014 (5417612A)
atikmdag.sys                Mon Sep 15 18:21:08 2014 (54176654)
avgloga.sys                 Tue Feb 16 09:04:03 2016 (56C32C53)
AtihdW76.sys                Wed Feb 24 13:28:17 2016 (56CDF641)
avgdiska.sys                Fri May 13 01:52:02 2016 (57356B82)
avgrkx64.sys                Wed Jun  1 07:16:31 2016 (574EC40F)
avgidsha.sys                Wed Jun  1 07:25:33 2016 (574EC62D)
avgldx64.sys                Wed Jun  1 07:27:54 2016 (574EC6BA)
avguniva.sys                Mon Jun 20 09:22:11 2016 (5767EE03)
avgidsdrivera.sys           Thu Jun 30 08:40:53 2016 (57751355)
avgtdia.sys                 Tue Jul 12 10:10:42 2016 (5784FA62)
avgmfx64.sys                Tue Jul 19 06:27:05 2016 (578E0079)

http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=ASACPI.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=AsIO.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=AtiPcie.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=amdxata.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=RTKVHD64.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=speedfan.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=a2ddax64.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=Rt64win7.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=SASKUTIL64.SYS
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=SASDIFSV64.SYS
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=WRkrn.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=atikmpag.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=atikmdag.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=avgloga.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=AtihdW76.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=avgdiska.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=avgrkx64.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=avgidsha.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=avgldx64.sys
avguniva.sys - this driver hasn't been added to the DRT as of this run. Please search Google/Bing for the driver if additional information is needed.
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=avgidsdrivera.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=avgtdia.sys
http://www.carrona.org/drivers/driver.php?id=avgmfx64.sys
 


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Posted 13 September 2016 - 08:50 AM

Hi, thanks for the response.  Much appreciated.
 

perfmon shows that the Dirty bit is set on the disk.

Please run "chkdsk /r /f" (without the quotes) from an elevated (Run as administrator) Command Prompt

If this doesn't fix it, then a full format of the hard drive is called for to reset it (and that will wipe everything off the drive).

 

 

OK, I saw that last night on the perfmon log and, like it said, "I ran chkdsk" but didn't get to the "chkdsk /r /f" stage because the system just crashed, which I think is because the GPU was overheating due to the HDD problem.  I've since removed the GPU prior to running "chkdsk /r /f", which seems to have performed successfully with no indication thus far of issues.  
 
Last night, when it was running the chkdsk, before crashing, it came up with things like: 

"..Deleting corrupt attribute reward (128, 128)
..Deleting corrupt attribute reward (128, 128)"
 
"Correcting error in index $130 for file 149798
Correcting error in index $130 for file 149798
Correcting error in index $130 for file 149798"
 
"Deleting index entry..."

 

 

 
It then started deleting lots of entries before the fuzziness started on the screen and then it crashed.
 
Like I said, I've since removed the GPU and it's running off the internal graphics.
 
Another thing, last night, when I ran the chkdsk, to begin with because of time constraints, I specified only the C: drive partition (about 200 GB of the 1TB drive) where the OS is installed.  I'm just wondering if the recent "chkdsk /r /f" would have defaulted to only scanning the C: drive thereby leaving 800GB unchecked?  I'm not sure how to check this.  When I ran "chkdsk /r /f" I didn't specify any specific drive and so I assume it scanned the whole disk.  Also, the scan only took an hour whereas I'd have thought it'd be longer? 
 
I checked Windows update and it told me to install the display driver 'ATI Technologies Inc. - Display - ATI Radeon HD 4250', which is presumably because I'd removed the GPU?
 
I should also add that, for whatever reason, I've had stability issues with the drivers for this GPU and so whever possible I've avoided updating to the latest driver and just settled on older more stable versions. 
 
I've uninstalled emsisoft but can't find webroot in the program list?
 
It's rebooted into windows successfully.
 
So, I guess, the next step is open a load of video windows and if all's well plug back in the GPU.

Edited by giantatx, 13 September 2016 - 09:06 AM.


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Posted 13 September 2016 - 09:17 AM

I've checked the case temperatures and all seems OK; the CPU Fan is running 25% faster than normal but this can be explained by having to use the internal graphics.


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Posted 13 September 2016 - 10:54 AM

OK, I did a stress test on the system opening multiple browsers and windows with vids running and there was no crash!   :bananas: I'm fairly confident because before it would have crashed without too much persuasion.

 

However, when I reconnected the GPU, it sounded like a helicopter taking off and there also seemed to be windows start up issues.  So I guess my GPU is fried, which is not surprising given how hot the gpu seemed to be earlier (too hot to touch!).  However, I think the problem was induced by the faulty HDD.  I can get another GPU without too much bother but before I rush out and buy I need to be certain of the diagnosis.  Thx.



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Posted 14 September 2016 - 05:47 AM

Rerun perfmon and see if it still mentions that the dirty bit is set.

 

CHKDSK only checks the drive that you tell it to.
Most often, when you run it, it's on the C: drive, so it checks that.

As it's a file system checker (not a diagnostic), you'll have to tell it to check the other drives.

I don't know the synatx well enough to tell it how to check the entire drive.

 

Those errors in CHKDSK were errors on the drive (in the file system).

Did it continue to find errors even after you removed the GPU?

Repeating errors in CHKDSK are sometimes a sign of a physical problem with the hard drive - please run these free hard drive diagnostics:  http://www.carrona.org/hddiag.html

 

Windows Update will check for updated drivers in it's database.  The AMD update is because there's already an AMD driver installed on your system.

Did you uninstall the AMD software when you removed the GPU?

 

Don't worry about the Webroot for now - if it's found to be a problem, we'll rip it out by the roots.

 

Internal graphics don't generally run hotter than the GPU.

Could there be a problem with your cooling solution?

Check to be sure that:

- the CPU is firmly mounted to the cooler

- that there is adequate, but not excessive, thermal compound between the CPU and the cooler

- that the cooler is clean and free of dirt/dust/etc

- that the fan on the cooler is working properly

- that the power plugs are all firmly seated and providing power

- that the system isn't pushing hot air into the CPU cooler

 

As for the GPU, try the GPU stress tests here:  http://www.carrona.org/hwdiag.html

If they fail, or the GPU continues to overheat, then it needs to be replaced.

To fully test it, you'll need to try another GPU.  If you don't have one, then try purchasing one from a shop that will let you return it (if it's not needed) for you money back.


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Posted 14 September 2016 - 06:47 AM

OK, post chkdsk and GPU removal, the system continues to be stable!
 
I'm certain the increased CPU speed is due to the reliance on onboard graphics AND it's a very hot day here in UK; when I booted up this morning, the CPU fan speed was only 10% more than it was when the external GPU was installed and working.  CPU fan speed now back to 25% above prior functioning but nothing that's causing me undue concern because the case temperatures seem to be stable.(HW monitor report attached).
 
OK, will rerun perfmon and chkdsk, and implement your other recommendations.

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 06:48 AM

I've also attached the memtest86 completion though I don't know why the prompt on the test told me to exit when it still seemed to be running?

 

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 07:16 AM

 The AMD update is because there's already an AMD driver installed on your system.

Did you uninstall the AMD software when you removed the GPU?

 

No, I didn't uninstall the AMD software.  When I go to uninstall programs the only AMD software is the AMD Catalyst install manager.  When I go into my programs in the Start menu there's 'AMD Gaming Evolved', which also has Plays TV as a subfolder.  There's no option to uninstall these, only 'change/repair'.  I think the Plays.TV is because of the Uplay software.

 

It's very odd that the windows update for AMD appeared; my 'fried' GPU is at least 6 yrs old and that Windows driver for the AMD GPU on 13th Sept is for an even older GPU???



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Posted 14 September 2016 - 07:30 AM

No dirty bit set!  :thumbup2:

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Posted 14 September 2016 - 08:02 AM

MemTest will run until you turn it off.
We usually suggest running ti for 3 passes

 

Continue with the stuff from my previous post and we'll see what happens.


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Posted 14 September 2016 - 10:38 AM

OK, I'll implement the suggested measures when I get the chance and so I won't be replying immediately.  The main thing is my computer is up and running.  Now I need to do some real work.

 

I'll post back the progress.  Many thanks. :clapping:



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Posted 14 September 2016 - 10:54 AM

Is it plausible for a HDD error to induce the GPU to fail?  The HDD error could induce a voltage imbalance which could explain the GPU issue?



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Posted 16 September 2016 - 03:56 AM

A problem with the hard drive can cause all sorts of problems with the system.

That being said, I'm not aware of any issues with a GPU caused by a Hard Drive.

 

Most hard driver errors that affect the entire system are catastrophic - and you can't do anything with the system.

If you suspect the hard drive, run several hard drive diagnostics (Seatools and Western Digital DLG)

If you still suspect the hard drive, then it's time to try a new hard drive (and fresh install of Windows).

Before doing that, I'd try the fresh install of WIndows on the old HDD - as that's more likely to be a problem than a hard drive.


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Posted 16 September 2016 - 09:28 AM

OK, since removing the GPU, there hasn't been a single crash!  Also, today is much cooler here in UK, and the case temperatures are relatively low and stable.

 

I took the GPU to a couple of local computer repair shops and they both seemed to think the problem was the fan.  They suggested putting some lubricant into the fan, which I tried, but it made no difference.  So I'm certain the problem is the fan. Also, the GPU is more than 6 years old.  The guy in the shop suggested just replacing the fan bit but it's simply not worth the effort.

 

I know I need to replace the whole system (>6 years old!) but I'm trying to wait until the New Year when prices go down, which hopefully, now, I can  B).

 

I haven't tried running any games yet but, should I try, I think the settings would just be lowered to accomodate the lack of GPU.

 

I've also discovered a 'turbo switch' on my mobo, which I could try using though I reckon it'll just increase case temperatures.

 

Anyway, I'll run the other checks and post back when I get the chance.






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