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#1 spflanze

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Posted 29 August 2016 - 11:47 PM

After reading these Windows 10 privacy issues:

https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.en.html

 

I decided to make my Windows 10 as private as it allows. There are instructions for doing so here:

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/08/windows_10_privacy_problems_here_s_how_bad_they_are_and_how_to_plug_them.html

 

These instructions include privacy options that are selected during Windows 10 installation, and other options that are selected after it is installed. Are there privacy options for Windows 10 that can be selected only during installation?

 

My ultimate goal is to migrate to Ubuntu because of these privacy issues. I would run windows applications under it using Wine, and for those that cannot run under Wine, I would run them under Windows 10 in Virtual Box running under Ubuntu. For now I do not have a computer that runs Ubuntu. I am considering installing Windows 7 on the computer I now have, instead of dealing with all the Windows 10 privacy settings. I expect Windows 7 to be more private than Windows 10 can ever be tweaked to be.



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Posted 30 August 2016 - 07:51 AM

Hope you don't use Google or Apple or amazon because they mine more user data than Windows 10. And please choose Ubuntu 16.04 or newer because older Ubuntu also harvested and stored/sold all user data. Oh yeah, I hope that you never use a shopper discount card because they mine/sell all customer data.

 

Your post displays a misplaced paranoia towards Microsoft when it is not nearly as bad as other companies.  Adjust your privacy settings as you see fit, but don't expect your personal life to protected from data mining unless you quite using cell phones/internet/shopping cards etc etc.


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Posted 30 August 2016 - 09:36 AM

Your post displays a misplaced paranoia towards Microsoft when it is not nearly as bad as other companies. Adjust your privacy settings as you see fit, but don't expect your personal life to protected from data mining unless you quite using cell phones/internet/shopping cards etc etc.

Sorry, I don't agree. Any company who engages in deceitful and morally unethical practices and who wantonly disregards a user's choice will not receive my vote of confidence. Misplaced paranoia??............not hardly! MS has earned that paranoia.

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Posted 30 August 2016 - 11:19 AM

Thank you for you comments. But what I most need to know is whether there are privacy options that can be selected only during Windows 10 installation.



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Posted 30 August 2016 - 11:34 AM

You can change the privacy options after installation. I believe anything that is offered during installation is available after install.

 

https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/5337/windows-10-tip-understand-and-configure-privacy-settings



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Posted 30 August 2016 - 04:58 PM

 

. And please choose Ubuntu 16.04 or newer because older Ubuntu also harvested and stored/sold all user data.

You mean Apport?

 

 

Apport is not enabled by default in stable releases, even if it is installed. The automatic crash interception component of apport is disabled by default in stable releases for a number of reasons:

Apport collects potentially sensitive data, such as core dumps, stack traces, and log files. They can contain passwords, credit card numbers, serial numbers, and other private material. This is mitigated by the fact that it presents you what will be sent to the bug tracker, and that all crash report bugs are private by default, limited to the Ubuntu bug triaging team. We can reasonably expect developers and technically savvy users, who run the development release, to be aware of this and judge whether it is appropriate to file a crash report. But we shouldn't assume that every Ubuntu user of stable releases is able to do so. In 12.04 and up this is transparently handled by whoopsie, see ErrorTracker.


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Posted 04 September 2016 - 09:37 AM

As a note to you spflanze, post #1, you might be able to put ubuntu on your current system. I suggest you post some system specifications from speccy or an equivalent tool and put them in the linux section of the forum, see if anyone can advise, but for the start go with live booting, don't wipe away windows until you can be utterly sure ubuntu does what you need and does it well on the hardware you have. Also you'll need to make sure to disable "secure"boot in the uefi/bios before you begin.
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Posted 04 September 2016 - 10:47 AM

If you want privacy don't install Windows 10...

With Windows 10, Microsoft Blatantly Disregards User Choice and Privacy: A Deep Dive

Please also read the links included in the article.

 

Go with any UNIX/LINUX OS and enjoy YOUR choice, YOUR OS and YOUR freedom, after all it's YOUR computer!

 

Greets!  :wink:



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Posted 04 September 2016 - 12:29 PM

I was aware of that article, and it is one of the reasons I started this thread.

 

There is software I need to use that does not have a Linux version, and might not yet be compatible Wine. I intend to use Ubuntu as much as possible and use WIndows only when necessary, either in dual boot, or in a Ubuntu VirtualBox.

 

The question that I started this thread with is now moot because the computer I finally settled on purchasing does not come with Windows 10. It comes with Windows 7 only. If by the time Windows 7 support ends Wine can run everything I need to I will not upgrade to Windows 10. I will instead remove Windows 7, and not use Windows at all.

 

If you want privacy don't install Windows 10...

With Windows 10, Microsoft Blatantly Disregards User Choice and Privacy: A Deep Dive

Please also read the links included in the article.

 

Go with any UNIX/LINUX OS and enjoy YOUR choice, YOUR OS and YOUR freedom, after all it's YOUR computer!

 

Greets!  :wink:



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Posted 07 September 2016 - 03:39 PM

Hope you don't use Google or Apple or amazon because they mine more user data than Windows 10. And please choose Ubuntu 16.04 or newer because older Ubuntu also harvested and stored/sold all user data. Oh yeah, I hope that you never use a shopper discount card because they mine/sell all customer data.

 

Your post displays a misplaced paranoia towards Microsoft when it is not nearly as bad as other companies.  Adjust your privacy settings as you see fit, but don't expect your personal life to protected from data mining unless you quite using cell phones/internet/shopping cards etc etc.

 

Google, Apple, phone companies, cards, are no excuse for Microsoft. And being the creator of the OS Microsoft has a tremendous advantage over them all. You may think you have nothing to hide. That is because you do not know what you should be hiding:

http://offgridsurvival.com/dhsdoj-targetssurvivalistpatriotsconservatives/

http://thetruthwins.com/archives/72-types-of-americans-that-are-considered-potential-terrorists-in-official-government-documents

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/frightening-obama-approves-substantial-expansion-of-domestic-terrorist-watch-lists-concrete-facts-are-not-necessary_07242014



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Posted 09 September 2016 - 10:04 AM

There are no privacy issues in Windows 10.  All these threads, and articles are just click-bait for tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists.



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Posted 09 September 2016 - 11:06 AM

There are no privacy issues in Windows 10.  All these threads, and articles are just click-bait for tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists.

 

There are times when the conspiracies the conspiracy theorists are concerned about are real and need to be paid attention to. Gnu, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, and the Free Software Foundation are all credible sources that know what they are writing about. Here is what they have to say:

 

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/08/windows-10-microsoft-blatantly-disregards-user-choice-and-privacy-deep-dive

 

https://www.fsf.org/news/the-fsfs-statement-on-windows-10

 

https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.en.html

https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/proprietary-surveillance.en.html

 

And now, just when you thought your privacy was safe in Windows 7, the privacy issues of Windows 10 have been backported to Windows 7:

Microsoft backports privacy-invading Windows 10 features to Windows 7, 8

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/213183-once-more-with-tracking-microsoft-backports-privacy-invading-windows-10-features-to-windows-7-8

 

Now I am thinking that if a Windows only application won't run under Wine or CrossOver I won't run it at all.

https://www.winehq.org/

https://www.codeweavers.com/products/crossover-linux



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Posted 09 September 2016 - 11:36 AM

There are no privacy issues in Windows 10.  All these threads, and articles are just click-bait for tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists.
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There are times when the conspiracies the conspiracy theorists are concerned about are real.
Never are they real.  They are always fabrications of delusional minds.


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Posted 10 September 2016 - 06:32 PM



There are no privacy issues in Windows 10.  All these threads, and articles are just click-bait for tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists.

 

Thanks for the laugh!  :hysterical:

 

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#15 spflanze

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Posted 10 September 2016 - 06:48 PM

 

 

There are no privacy issues in Windows 10.  All these threads, and articles are just click-bait for tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists.
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There are times when the conspiracies the conspiracy theorists are concerned about are real.
Never are they real.  They are always fabrications of delusional minds.

 

 

Just what Microsoft wants you to believe as they examine your life for fun, profit, and the New World Order.






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