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#1 Mike_Soda

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Posted 29 August 2016 - 05:04 PM

For several years now I've had some trouble off & on with my Radeon HD 6450 1GB Graphics Card. Part of me still suspects the Drivers since there were two instances where I went over a year without a BSOD but then they returned once every couple months via different driver versions. I know this isn't the BSOD category of BC & I'm not asking for help with that part of my problem here. What I'm wondering is if my Motherboard's integrated graphics by Nvidia might be conflicting with my discrete AMD card. It's an ASUS M4N68T-M-V2 with NVIDIA Geforce 7025/nForce 630a chipset/integrated graphics. I've run DDU utility several times before & never once has it detected any Nvidia Drivers before or after removing AMD's. The only reason why I'm still suspicious is because of several programs & services showing up in my Control Panel & Task Manager. Since I don't see a way to upload screenshots of what I'm seeing I'll describe as best possible below along with the rest of my system specs.

 

1: Within my Windows Control Panel a Nvidia Control Panel shows but upon clicking I'm given a Windows error message stating.   Current Ethernet Driver doesn't support "NVIDIA ForceWare Network Access Manager". Please remove "NVIDIA ForceWare Network Acces Manager" first from Windows Control panel, then reinstall NVIDIA Ethernet driver and "NVIDIA ForceWare network Access Manager" to fix this problem.   Does this only apply to my Ethernet Driver & should I leave it alone or remove it?

 

2: Additionally, within my Windows Programs & Features there are 3 different Nvidia listings.  NVIDIA Drivers, NVIDIA ForceWare Network Access Manager & NVIDIA PhysX.  Do I need any of these or can I uninstall them & if so which in particular if not all?

 

Finally, within my Windows Services there's ForceWare IP Service & ForceWare Intelligent Application Manager (IAM). Also via my Task Manager I can see nSvcAppFlt.exe & nSvcIp.exe are both running. So I know at least a portion of the NVIDIA software on my PC is in fact active. Whether any of that should be or not I don't know but am hoping someone here can help me determine that & remove whichever of them aren't necessary.

 

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AMD GPU Drivers: The latest Crimson Beta Legacy, I've tried the last WHQL before & those didn't improve stability either even when installed without Catalyst.


Edited by Mike_Soda, 29 August 2016 - 05:05 PM.

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Posted 31 August 2016 - 08:45 PM

For several years now I've had some trouble off & on with my Radeon HD 6450 1GB Graphics Card. Part of me still suspects the Drivers since there were two instances where I went over a year without a BSOD but then they returned once every couple months via different driver versions. I know this isn't the BSOD category of BC & I'm not asking for help with that part of my problem here. What I'm wondering is if my Motherboard's integrated graphics by Nvidia might be conflicting with my discrete AMD card. It's an ASUS M4N68T-M-V2 with NVIDIA Geforce 7025/nForce 630a chipset/integrated graphics. I've run DDU utility several times before & never once has it detected any Nvidia Drivers before or after removing AMD's. The only reason why I'm still suspicious is because of several programs & services showing up in my Control Panel & Task Manager. Since I don't see a way to upload screenshots of what I'm seeing I'll describe as best possible below along with the rest of my system specs.


You can upload a screenshot to another site like flickr.com (or any number of other sites) and then link to the uploaded picture(s).
 

1: Within my Windows Control Panel a Nvidia Control Panel shows but upon clicking I'm given a Windows error message stating.   Current Ethernet Driver doesn't support "NVIDIA ForceWare Network Access Manager". Please remove "NVIDIA ForceWare Network Acces Manager" first from Windows Control panel, then reinstall NVIDIA Ethernet driver and "NVIDIA ForceWare network Access Manager" to fix this problem.   Does this only apply to my Ethernet Driver & should I leave it alone or remove it?


You do not mention your brand and model of motherboard. What is it? From this, it would seem like maybe the motherboard is using a nVidia Ethernet chipset. If so, then those should be left alone.
 

2: Additionally, within my Windows Programs & Features there are 3 different Nvidia listings.  NVIDIA Drivers, NVIDIA ForceWare Network Access Manager & NVIDIA PhysX.  Do I need any of these or can I uninstall them & if so which in particular if not all?


For the first two, I would say see above. For the third item (nVidia PhysX), you likely could remove it. It may not really be impacting anything graphics-wise at this point, but it is in theory graphics related. It should not be related to any Ethernet drivers, but who knows.
 

Finally, within my Windows Services there's ForceWare IP Service & ForceWare Intelligent Application Manager (IAM). Also via my Task Manager I can see nSvcAppFlt.exe & nSvcIp.exe are both running. So I know at least a portion of the NVIDIA software on my PC is in fact active. Whether any of that should be or not I don't know but am hoping someone here can help me determine that & remove whichever of them aren't necessary.


See above.

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 12:02 PM

 

For several years now I've had some trouble off & on with my Radeon HD 6450 1GB Graphics Card. Part of me still suspects the Drivers since there were two instances where I went over a year without a BSOD but then they returned once every couple months via different driver versions. I know this isn't the BSOD category of BC & I'm not asking for help with that part of my problem here. What I'm wondering is if my Motherboard's integrated graphics by Nvidia might be conflicting with my discrete AMD card. It's an ASUS M4N68T-M-V2 with NVIDIA Geforce 7025/nForce 630a chipset/integrated graphics. I've run DDU utility several times before & never once has it detected any Nvidia Drivers before or after removing AMD's. The only reason why I'm still suspicious is because of several programs & services showing up in my Control Panel & Task Manager. Since I don't see a way to upload screenshots of what I'm seeing I'll describe as best possible below along with the rest of my system specs.


You can upload a screenshot to another site like flickr.com (or any number of other sites) and then link to the uploaded picture(s).
 

1: Within my Windows Control Panel a Nvidia Control Panel shows but upon clicking I'm given a Windows error message stating.   Current Ethernet Driver doesn't support "NVIDIA ForceWare Network Access Manager". Please remove "NVIDIA ForceWare Network Acces Manager" first from Windows Control panel, then reinstall NVIDIA Ethernet driver and "NVIDIA ForceWare network Access Manager" to fix this problem.   Does this only apply to my Ethernet Driver & should I leave it alone or remove it?


You do not mention your brand and model of motherboard. What is it? From this, it would seem like maybe the motherboard is using a nVidia Ethernet chipset. If so, then those should be left alone.
 

2: Additionally, within my Windows Programs & Features there are 3 different Nvidia listings.  NVIDIA Drivers, NVIDIA ForceWare Network Access Manager & NVIDIA PhysX.  Do I need any of these or can I uninstall them & if so which in particular if not all?


For the first two, I would say see above. For the third item (nVidia PhysX), you likely could remove it. It may not really be impacting anything graphics-wise at this point, but it is in theory graphics related. It should not be related to any Ethernet drivers, but who knows.
 

Finally, within my Windows Services there's ForceWare IP Service & ForceWare Intelligent Application Manager (IAM). Also via my Task Manager I can see nSvcAppFlt.exe & nSvcIp.exe are both running. So I know at least a portion of the NVIDIA software on my PC is in fact active. Whether any of that should be or not I don't know but am hoping someone here can help me determine that & remove whichever of them aren't necessary.


See above.

 

 

I did mention the brand & model of my motherboard in the first post, that's why I said the rest of my system specs are below. It's an ASUS M4N68T-M-V2 & okay so my suspicions were correct about some of the programs/services. I'll await you're reply now that ya know my board name as to whether or not I truly should uninstall PhysX because I don't actually see it running anywhere.


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Posted 01 September 2016 - 09:02 PM

Sorry completely missed the motherboard model. Bad, smax013.

From the specs on the Asus website, the Ethernet appears to be a Realtek chipset. If so, then I am not sure what the nVidia drivers are there for.  It would appear that they are not needed in theory.

 

If you go to Device Manager, what is listed under Network Adapters?



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Posted 02 September 2016 - 04:34 PM

Sorry completely missed the motherboard model. Bad, smax013.

From the specs on the Asus website, the Ethernet appears to be a Realtek chipset. If so, then I am not sure what the nVidia drivers are there for.  It would appear that they are not needed in theory.

 

If you go to Device Manager, what is listed under Network Adapters?

It says NVIDIA nForce 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet, by the way this is a pre-built low-end gaming CyberpowerPC I got off Newegg about 5 years ago. So maybe they for whatever reason chose to use these Network Adapters instead, I don't know.


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Posted 02 September 2016 - 06:15 PM

Sorry completely missed the motherboard model. Bad, smax013.

From the specs on the Asus website, the Ethernet appears to be a Realtek chipset. If so, then I am not sure what the nVidia drivers are there for.  It would appear that they are not needed in theory.
 
If you go to Device Manager, what is listed under Network Adapters?

It says NVIDIA nForce 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet, by the way this is a pre-built low-end gaming CyberpowerPC I got off Newegg about 5 years ago. So maybe they for whatever reason chose to use these Network Adapters instead, I don't know.


OK, I am now a little confused by the Asus website.

First, there are two version of the motherboard...original "flavor" and V2. The above link that I originally found is for the V2 specs. I then noticed the original version when I just searched again. Here are the specs for the original version:

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M4N68TM/specifications/

For the V2, the specs clearly indicate a Realtek chipset for the LAN (aka Ethernet). The original version just says "Gb LAN".

So, I went to look at the available drivers under support for the original version. There are no specific drivers for the Ethernet/LAN listed, but there is a driver for the chipset that is nVidia, so I then assumed would also deal with the Ethernet/LAN.

So, at that point, it seemed like the original version might have a nVidia LAN chipset (which would jive with what you found) while the second version had a Realtek LAN chipset.

But, then for sanity sake, I went to look at the drivers for the V2 board. And there are no Realtek drivers...just nVidia chipset drivers (that specifically mention LAN).

So, at this point, it would appear that what I found initially was wrong and it is actually using a nVidia LAN chipset. So, the drivers make sense. I don't know why the specs for the V2 motherboard list Realtek under the LAN/Ethernet section as that seems to be wrong.

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Posted 04 September 2016 - 04:52 PM

 

 

Sorry completely missed the motherboard model. Bad, smax013.

From the specs on the Asus website, the Ethernet appears to be a Realtek chipset. If so, then I am not sure what the nVidia drivers are there for.  It would appear that they are not needed in theory.
 
If you go to Device Manager, what is listed under Network Adapters?

It says NVIDIA nForce 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet, by the way this is a pre-built low-end gaming CyberpowerPC I got off Newegg about 5 years ago. So maybe they for whatever reason chose to use these Network Adapters instead, I don't know.

 


OK, I am now a little confused by the Asus website.

First, there are two version of the motherboard...original "flavor" and V2. The above link that I originally found is for the V2 specs. I then noticed the original version when I just searched again. Here are the specs for the original version:

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M4N68TM/specifications/

For the V2, the specs clearly indicate a Realtek chipset for the LAN (aka Ethernet). The original version just says "Gb LAN".

So, I went to look at the available drivers under support for the original version. There are no specific drivers for the Ethernet/LAN listed, but there is a driver for the chipset that is nVidia, so I then assumed would also deal with the Ethernet/LAN.

So, at that point, it seemed like the original version might have a nVidia LAN chipset (which would jive with what you found) while the second version had a Realtek LAN chipset.

But, then for sanity sake, I went to look at the drivers for the V2 board. And there are no Realtek drivers...just nVidia chipset drivers (that specifically mention LAN).

So, at this point, it would appear that what I found initially was wrong and it is actually using a nVidia LAN chipset. So, the drivers make sense. I don't know why the specs for the V2 motherboard list Realtek under the LAN/Ethernet section as that seems to be wrong.

 

I'm guessing it's just a typo & I'll leave the Ethernet related Nvidia portion of the software alone then. The version number of PhysX is 9.10.0129, are you sure I could safely uninstall it?


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Posted 15 September 2016 - 09:09 PM

As a quick update I just uninstalled PhysX & all is still running fine, I will keep the other Nvidia Ethernet software installed though. I'd mark this thread as solved but I don't see an option to do that, if a forum mod can if possible I'd appreciate it thanks!


Edited by Mike_Soda, 15 September 2016 - 09:11 PM.

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Posted 20 September 2016 - 06:38 PM

Glad to here it.

With this forum software, there is no marking topics solved or closed (moderators can close a topic, but that is basically only done for things like topics that violate the rules). So, the topics just kind of fade of into the sunset due to inactivity when they are solved. :grinner:

Edited by smax013, 20 September 2016 - 06:39 PM.





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