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Upgrading GPU and CPU help?


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#1 KDDomin

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Posted 29 August 2016 - 03:34 PM

Current specs-

GPU- GTX 960 2GB

CPU- AMD A8 7650K

Motherboard- MSI A88X-D3H FM2+

Cooling- ZALMAN CNPS10X OPTIMA 120mm FSB

 

 

 

I plan on purchasing the GTX 1070 8GB  graphics card and the AMD FX 9590 CPU (don't want to switch to Intel yet). I just need some help figuring out whether they are compatible with my current Motherboard and Cooling fan so that my PC doesn't overheat. If they are not compatible i'm willing to buy a new motherboard and/or Cooling fan (recommendations please!). Preferably not more than $200 each but i'm willing to do budget modifications. If they are compatible but still recommend that i buy something better please let me know. I'm kinda on a budget and don't feel like switching to an Intel CPU (yes i know AMD is kinda outdated compared to Intel). Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!! 



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#2 hamluis

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Posted 29 August 2016 - 03:52 PM

What's the purpose....what is it you are trying to gain/improve...by doing an update of various components?

 

Why do you not like the system for what it is today?

 

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Posted 29 August 2016 - 04:06 PM

Ive had the system for about a year now but it is not nearly updated enough for all these high demanding games. Arma 3 and GTAV are some examples. In Arma 3 i can barely get 20 fps, basically making it useless to play.


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Posted 30 August 2016 - 09:29 AM

Cannot recommend FX-9590 or GTX 1070.

 

AMD Zen may launch with 4 core version "in about 3 months" or so and  RX 480 offers much better value for money than GTX 1070.



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Posted 30 August 2016 - 10:01 AM

Current specs-

GPU- GTX 960 2GB

CPU- AMD A8 7650K

Motherboard- MSI A88X-D3H FM2+

Cooling- ZALMAN CNPS10X OPTIMA 120mm FSB

 

 

 

I plan on purchasing the GTX 1070 8GB  graphics card and the AMD FX 9590 CPU (don't want to switch to Intel yet). I just need some help figuring out whether they are compatible with my current Motherboard and Cooling fan so that my PC doesn't overheat. If they are not compatible i'm willing to buy a new motherboard and/or Cooling fan (recommendations please!).

 

To address that point, no the FX 9590 will not work with your current motherboard.  It uses a different socket.  It's effectively an overclocked FX 8350 and it runs hot (220w TDP).  At one time they were supplied with a liquid cooling system bundled, but I should think a top of the line air cooler (e.g. Noctua NH-D15) would be OK.  Not a huge number of motherboards support the power requirements of this CPU - the Asus M5A99FX Pro R2 seems to be one of the cheaper ones.

 

Personally I've never been a fan of that CPU, you might as well just buy a cheaper FX CPU and overclock it, or wait for the new AMD chips that are apparently around the corner..

 

You need to also consider your power supply with these power hungry CPU's. 

 

The GTX 1070 and RX 480 are at different price and performance tiers, with the 1070 being a $400+ card, and the RX 480 starting from about $250.  The RX 480 is a closer match to the GTX 1060 in terms of performance.


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Posted 30 August 2016 - 02:01 PM

 

Current specs-

GPU- GTX 960 2GB

CPU- AMD A8 7650K

Motherboard- MSI A88X-D3H FM2+

Cooling- ZALMAN CNPS10X OPTIMA 120mm FSB

 

 

 

I plan on purchasing the GTX 1070 8GB  graphics card and the AMD FX 9590 CPU (don't want to switch to Intel yet). I just need some help figuring out whether they are compatible with my current Motherboard and Cooling fan so that my PC doesn't overheat. If they are not compatible i'm willing to buy a new motherboard and/or Cooling fan (recommendations please!).

 

To address that point, no the FX 9590 will not work with your current motherboard.  It uses a different socket.  It's effectively an overclocked FX 8350 and it runs hot (220w TDP).  At one time they were supplied with a liquid cooling system bundled, but I should think a top of the line air cooler (e.g. Noctua NH-D15) would be OK.  Not a huge number of motherboards support the power requirements of this CPU - the Asus M5A99FX Pro R2 seems to be one of the cheaper ones.

 

Personally I've never been a fan of that CPU, you might as well just buy a cheaper FX CPU and overclock it, or wait for the new AMD chips that are apparently around the corner..

 

You need to also consider your power supply with these power hungry CPU's. 

 

The GTX 1070 and RX 480 are at different price and performance tiers, with the 1070 being a $400+ card, and the RX 480 starting from about $250.  The RX 480 is a closer match to the GTX 1060 in terms of performance.

 

what are some good power supply that you recommend? would the Corsair RM850 power supply work well with the CPU and GPU? And would the Corsair Hydro Series H110 280 mm High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler be able to work as a cooler?

 

Edited by KDDomin, 30 August 2016 - 02:47 PM.


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Posted 30 August 2016 - 07:50 PM

First, I wouldn't bother upgrading your CPU right now unless you're ready for a whole new MB as well.  The 1070 is a worthy upgrade and you shouldn't see too much CPU bottleneck in the games you've mentioned.  As for a power supply the RM850 is PLENTY.  What power supply do you have now?  A quality 650 should serve you just fine.  People tend to over spec their power supplies.


Edited by hamluis, 31 August 2016 - 12:13 PM.
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Posted 30 August 2016 - 08:30 PM

so the 1070 and the AMD A8 7650K will run fine together? And my current power supply is the Corsair CX500.


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Posted 31 August 2016 - 04:20 AM

Yes, they will run fine together.  You will obviously get better frame rates if you upgrade the CPU/MB in the future but it will still be a huge boost over the 960 you have now.  And your current PSU should also be fine.  Nvidia recommends a 500W PSU for the 1070 based on an i7 system.  The i7 has a TDP of 91 Watts and your 7650K has a TDP of 95.  I doubt four extra watts will push you over the edge.  It doesn't give you a lot of room for expansion later but CPU's generally have been using less power as they progress, not more.  



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Posted 31 August 2016 - 02:04 PM

ok thank you so much for your help! i'm not planing on getting any CPU until at least Christmas so if AMD releases the new ones i will probably just get that instead of the FX 9590. Thanks again!


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Posted 01 September 2016 - 05:11 AM

Rx 480 is much better. And it is also dependable for future gaming.
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Posted 01 September 2016 - 06:20 AM

Rx 480 is much better. And it is also dependable for future gaming.

What is this "better" you speak of?  Better how exactly?  The GTX 1070 beats the RX 480 by quite a huge margin in every benchmark.  And if you are trying to imply the RX 480 is somehow more future proof you are sorely mistaken.  It's cheaper...  That's about all that can be said.



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Posted 01 September 2016 - 10:17 AM

RX480 has much better support for DirectX 12/Vulcan/Mantle games. That can be said.

 

Huge margin in every benchmark? No, https://www.computerbase.de/2016-07/doom-vulkan-benchmarks-amd-nvidia/


Edited by hamluis, 01 September 2016 - 12:30 PM.


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Posted 01 September 2016 - 10:31 AM

And yet the 1070 still beats the 480 by 11% in Vulcan...almost 60% in OpenGL.  Although benchmarking one game is hardly enough to draw conclusions.


Edited by hamluis, 01 September 2016 - 12:30 PM.


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Posted 01 September 2016 - 11:23 AM

11% is far from huge margin. Also GTX 1070 is much more expensive.

One game is more than enough to draw conclusions as it's known fact that AMD has much better hardware support for Vulkan than Nvidia has. That game just proves what is known for years.


Edited by hamluis, 01 September 2016 - 12:31 PM.





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