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Update stopped in Vista Home Basic, - again


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#1 haterms

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 06:53 AM

Hi Computer Angels,

 

I got into troubles, though, I do not visit risky sites, etc.

 

I already had update problems a year ago. Then, we were able to fix it. This time, nothing worked, what I learned that time.

It looks difficult for me. I'd try "Clean Install", or "Upgrade" to Premium, but I am not sure whether any of these would solve my problem, and I do not want to lose my installed applications. On the top, it is a Toshiba Satellite P 200 laptop, with preinstalled OS, so I do not have a Vista DVD, only a Toshiba Recovery Disk, which cannot solve the problem.

 

I put together a Word document as attachment,Attached File  Update_problem.doc   1.93MB   6 downloads which describes my current problem, with already tried measures, log files, scan results, etc. I hope this is helpful for the first, and I will get help.

 

Hoping in last resource, regards,

 

Zoltan



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Posted 23 August 2016 - 10:23 AM

- The processes called "Svchost.exe" are NOT trojans or malware. It's an essential part of Windows. These processes control a number of Services, including "Wuauserv" (for Windows Update).

- Try the instruction here:

http://www.tweaking.com/forums/index.php/topic,4799.0.html

 

Although it's written for Win 7, it also gives instructions for Vista.


Edited by Willy22, 23 August 2016 - 10:29 AM.


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Posted 23 August 2016 - 01:26 PM

Hi Willy22,

 

Thanks for the quick reply.

I know that svchost is only a collect container, and other processes run in it. That's why I called it a Trojan Horse, since that carried many soldiers inside, whe were not visible. Earlier, it was possible to see all MS processes, and to figure out what they do.

 

I followed your advise. Now, I understand what we are doing: instead of searching the big database forever, we update targeted groups of important updates, as a work around. If this works, it is fine with me for the time being.

I guess that wusa does not get CPU time, and not doing a thing.

I see the following:

Since I cannot include an image, I will put it inro a document, and send it next.

It looks like the "regular update" is also running, using the wuauserv, eating tons of memory, and CPU time for nothing. Maybe, I had to stop this service for the stand alone update ?

 



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Posted 23 August 2016 - 01:37 PM

Hi again,

 

Here are the images about what is ongoing.

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 01:44 PM

- Using each Svchost.exe Windows runs one or more *.DLL files. Those *.dll files are the actual "engines" for those Services. To see what the names of those files are, one needs to "dive into" the registry. (Not recommended !!!)

- Yes, disable the "Wuauserv" Service. It will keep Windows from interfering/meddling with your attempts to fix this problem. But that was buried in the guide (rather deeply) as well. Perhaps I need to add that as well to the guide.

- Each box (in which you type your text) has a button called "More options" (in the bottom right hand corner) then you're able to attach a file (e.g. a picture).


Edited by Willy22, 23 August 2016 - 01:52 PM.


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Posted 23 August 2016 - 01:48 PM

And again hi,

 

I run the stand-alone-update as admin. It looks like it tried to download updates, but stopped after while. The last entry into the update log file was 30 minutes ago. I do not understand what this all mean, do you ? Should I wait longer, let it run ?

 

2016-08-23    19:33:36:777    1244    1448    COMAPI    -- START --  COMAPI: Search [ClientId = wusa]
2016-08-23    19:33:36:777    1244    1448    COMAPI    ---------
2016-08-23    19:33:36:792    1244    1448    COMAPI    <<-- SUBMITTED -- COMAPI: Search [ClientId = wusa]
2016-08-23    19:55:02:567    1176    a98    Shutdwn    user declined update at shutdown
2016-08-23    19:55:02:567    1176    a98    AU    AU initiates service shutdown
2016-08-23    19:55:02:567    1176    a98    AU    ###########  AU: Uninitializing Automatic Updates  ###########
2016-08-23    19:55:02:755    1176    598    Agent      * WARNING: Failed to filter search results, error = 0x8024000B
2016-08-23    19:55:02:801    1176    598    Agent    *********
2016-08-23    19:55:02:801    1176    598    Agent    **  END  **  Agent: Finding updates [CallerId = ]
2016-08-23    19:55:02:801    1176    598    Agent    *************
2016-08-23    19:55:03:956    1620    e38    COMAPI    >>--  RESUMED  -- COMAPI: Search [ClientId = <NULL>]
2016-08-23    19:55:03:971    1176    a98    Agent    WARNING: WU client fails to call back to search call {CF4151DA-F63E-458F-8106-9728C34A1522} with error 0x800706ba
2016-08-23    19:55:03:971    1176    a98    Agent    Sending shutdown notification to client
2016-08-23    19:55:03:971    1620    e38    COMAPI      - Updates found = 0
2016-08-23    19:55:03:971    1620    1480    COMAPI    WARNING: Received service shutdown/self-update notification.
2016-08-23    19:55:03:971    1620    e38    COMAPI      - WARNING: Exit code = 0x00000000, Result code = 0x8024001E
2016-08-23    19:55:03:971    1620    e38    COMAPI    ---------
2016-08-23    19:55:03:971    1620    e38    COMAPI    --  END  --  COMAPI: Search [ClientId = <NULL>]
2016-08-23    19:55:03:971    1620    e38    COMAPI    -------------
2016-08-23    19:55:03:971    1176    a98    Agent    Sending shutdown notification to client
2016-08-23    19:55:03:971    1176    a98    Agent    Sending shutdown notification to client
2016-08-23    19:55:03:971    1620    e68    COMAPI    WARNING: Operation failed due to earlier error, hr=8024001E
2016-08-23    19:55:03:971    1620    e68    COMAPI    FATAL: Unable to perform synchronous search. (hr=8024001E)
2016-08-23    19:55:04:003    1176    a98    Report    CWERReporter finishing event handling. (00000000)
2016-08-23    19:55:04:003    1176    a98    Report    CWERReporter finishing event handling. (00000000)
2016-08-23    19:55:04:221    1176    a98    Service    *********
2016-08-23    19:55:04:221    1176    a98    Service    **  END  **  Service: Service exit [Exit code = 0x240001]
2016-08-23    19:55:04:221    1176    a98    Service    *************
2016-08-23    19:58:37:330    1180    b5c    Misc    ===========  Logging initialized (build: 7.6.7600.256, tz: +0200)  ===========
2016-08-23    19:58:37:330    1180    b5c    Misc      = Process: C:\Windows\system32\svchost.exe
2016-08-23    19:58:37:408    1180    b5c    Misc      = Module: c:\windows\system32\wuaueng.dll
2016-08-23    19:58:37:330    1180    b5c    Service    *************
2016-08-23    19:58:37:626    1180    b5c    Service    ** START **  Service: Service startup
2016-08-23    19:58:37:767    1180    b5c    Service    *********
2016-08-23    19:58:37:923    1180    b5c    Agent      * WU client version 7.6.7600.256
2016-08-23    19:58:38:063    1180    b5c    Agent      * Base directory: C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution
2016-08-23    19:58:38:063    1180    b5c    Agent      * Access type: No proxy
2016-08-23    19:58:38:344    1180    b5c    Agent      * Network state: Connected
2016-08-23    19:58:39:311    1180    b5c    Setup    WARNING: SelfUpdate is in an error state
2016-08-23    19:59:24:338    1180    b5c    Report    CWERReporter::Init succeeded
2016-08-23    19:59:24:338    1180    b5c    Agent    ***********  Agent: Initializing Windows Update Agent  ***********
2016-08-23    19:59:24:338    1180    b5c    Agent    ***********  Agent: Initializing global settings cache  ***********
2016-08-23    19:59:24:338    1180    b5c    Agent      * WSUS server: <NULL>
2016-08-23    19:59:24:338    1180    b5c    Agent      * WSUS status server: <NULL>
2016-08-23    19:59:24:338    1180    b5c    Agent      * Target group: (Unassigned Computers)
2016-08-23    19:59:24:338    1180    b5c    Agent      * Windows Update access disabled: No
2016-08-23    19:59:24:338    1180    b5c    DnldMgr    Download manager restoring 0 downloads
2016-08-23    19:59:24:416    1180    b5c    AU    ###########  AU: Initializing Automatic Updates  ###########
2016-08-23    19:59:24:416    1180    b5c    AU    AU setting next detection timeout to 2016-08-23 17:59:24
2016-08-23    19:59:24:416    1180    b5c    AU      # Approval type: Pre-download notify (User preference)
2016-08-23    19:59:24:416    1180    b5c    AU      # Will display featured software notifications (User preference)
2016-08-23    19:59:24:416    1180    b5c    AU    Initializing featured updates
2016-08-23    19:59:24:416    1180    b5c    AU    Found 0 cached featured updates
2016-08-23    19:59:24:416    1180    b5c    AU    AU finished delayed initialization
2016-08-23    19:59:24:712    1180    b5c    Report    ***********  Report: Initializing static reporting data  ***********
2016-08-23    19:59:24:712    1180    b5c    Report      * OS Version = 6.0.6002.2.0.66304
2016-08-23    19:59:24:712    1180    b5c    Report      * OS Product Type = 0x00000002
2016-08-23    19:59:24:759    1180    b5c    Report      * Computer Brand = TOSHIBA
2016-08-23    19:59:24:759    1180    b5c    Report      * Computer Model = Satellite P200
2016-08-23    19:59:24:759    1180    b5c    Report      * Bios Revision = V2.20
2016-08-23    19:59:24:759    1180    b5c    Report      * Bios Name = Ver 1.00PARTTBL
2016-08-23    19:59:24:759    1180    b5c    Report      * Bios Release Date = 2008-01-09T00:00:00
2016-08-23    19:59:24:759    1180    b5c    Report      * Locale ID = 1033
2016-08-23    19:59:24:759    1180    b5c    AU    #############
2016-08-23    19:59:24:759    1180    b5c    AU    ## START ##  AU: Search for updates
2016-08-23    19:59:24:759    1180    b5c    AU    #########
2016-08-23    19:59:24:774    1180    b5c    AU    <<## SUBMITTED ## AU: Search for updates [CallId = {A60CA0AB-5B08-4303-BA46-659EDD89AFBC}]
2016-08-23    19:59:25:118    1180    1258    Agent    *************
2016-08-23    19:59:25:118    1180    1258    Agent    ** START **  Agent: Finding updates [CallerId = AutomaticUpdates]
2016-08-23    19:59:25:118    1180    1258    Agent    *********
2016-08-23    19:59:25:118    1180    1258    Agent      * Online = Yes; Ignore download priority = No
2016-08-23    19:59:25:118    1180    1258    Agent      * Criteria = "IsInstalled=0 and DeploymentAction='Installation' or IsPresent=1 and DeploymentAction='Uninstallation' or IsInstalled=1 and DeploymentAction='Installation' and RebootRequired=1 or IsInstalled=0 and DeploymentAction='Uninstallation' and RebootRequired=1"
2016-08-23    19:59:25:118    1180    1258    Agent      * ServiceID = {7971F918-A847-4430-9279-4A52D1EFE18D} Third party service
2016-08-23    19:59:25:118    1180    1258    Agent      * Search Scope = {Machine}
2016-08-23    19:59:25:133    1180    1258    Misc    Validating signature for C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\WuRedir\9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77\muv4wuredir.cab:
2016-08-23    19:59:25:196    1180    1258    Misc     Microsoft signed: Yes
2016-08-23    19:59:27:578    1180    1258    Misc    Validating signature for C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\WuRedir\9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77\muv4wuredir.cab:
2016-08-23    19:59:27:593    1180    1258    Misc     Microsoft signed: Yes
2016-08-23    19:59:27:609    1180    1258    Agent    Checking for updated auth cab for service 7971f918-a847-4430-9279-4a52d1efe18d at http://ds.download.windowsupdate.com/v11/2/microsoftupdate/redir/v6-legacy-muauth.cab
2016-08-23    19:59:27:609    1180    1258    Misc    Validating signature for C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\AuthCabs\authcab.cab:
2016-08-23    19:59:27:625    1180    1258    Misc     Microsoft signed: Yes
2016-08-23    19:59:29:965    1180    1258    Misc    Validating signature for C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\AuthCabs\authcab.cab:
2016-08-23    19:59:29:980    1180    1258    Misc     Microsoft signed: Yes
2016-08-23    19:59:29:980    1180    1258    Setup    Checking for agent SelfUpdate
2016-08-23    19:59:29:980    1180    1258    Setup    Client version: Core: 7.6.7600.256  Aux: 7.6.7600.256
2016-08-23    19:59:29:996    1180    1258    Misc    Validating signature for C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\WuRedir\9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77\muv4wuredir.cab:
2016-08-23    19:59:29:996    1180    1258    Misc     Microsoft signed: Yes
2016-08-23    19:59:30:011    1180    1258    Misc    Validating signature for C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\WuRedir\9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77\muv4wuredir.cab:
2016-08-23    19:59:30:027    1180    1258    Misc     Microsoft signed: Yes
2016-08-23    19:59:33:468    1180    1258    Misc    Validating signature for C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\SelfUpdate\wuident.cab:
2016-08-23    19:59:33:484    1180    1258    Misc     Microsoft signed: Yes
2016-08-23    19:59:33:546    1180    1258    Misc    Validating signature for C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\SelfUpdate\wsus3setup.cab:
2016-08-23    19:59:33:562    1180    1258    Misc     Microsoft signed: Yes
2016-08-23    19:59:33:608    1180    1258    Setup    Determining whether a new setup handler needs to be downloaded
2016-08-23    19:59:33:608    1180    1258    Setup    SelfUpdate handler is not found.  It will be downloaded
2016-08-23    19:59:33:608    1180    1258    Setup    Evaluating applicability of setup package "WUClient-SelfUpdate-ActiveX~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~7.6.7600.256"
2016-08-23    19:59:33:749    1180    1258    Setup    Setup package "WUClient-SelfUpdate-ActiveX~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~7.6.7600.256" is already installed.
2016-08-23    19:59:33:749    1180    1258    Setup    Evaluating applicability of setup package "WUClient-SelfUpdate-Aux-TopLevel~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~7.6.7600.256"
2016-08-23    19:59:33:780    1180    1258    Setup    Setup package "WUClient-SelfUpdate-Aux-TopLevel~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~7.6.7600.256" is already installed.
2016-08-23    19:59:33:780    1180    1258    Setup    Evaluating applicability of setup package "WUClient-SelfUpdate-Core-TopLevel~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~7.6.7600.256"
2016-08-23    19:59:33:811    1180    1258    Setup    Setup package "WUClient-SelfUpdate-Core-TopLevel~31bf3856ad364e35~x86~~7.6.7600.256" is already installed.
2016-08-23    19:59:33:811    1180    1258    Setup    SelfUpdate check completed.  SelfUpdate is NOT required.
2016-08-23    19:59:45:116    1180    1258    Misc    Validating signature for C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\WuRedir\7971F918-A847-4430-9279-4A52D1EFE18D\v6-legacy-muredir.cab:
2016-08-23    19:59:45:131    1180    1258    Misc     Microsoft signed: Yes
2016-08-23    19:59:45:677    1180    1258    Misc    Validating signature for C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\WuRedir\7971F918-A847-4430-9279-4A52D1EFE18D\v6-legacy-muredir.cab:
2016-08-23    19:59:45:693    1180    1258    Misc     Microsoft signed: Yes
2016-08-23    19:59:45:708    1180    1258    PT    +++++++++++  PT: Synchronizing server updates  +++++++++++
2016-08-23    19:59:45:708    1180    1258    PT      + ServiceId = {7971F918-A847-4430-9279-4A52D1EFE18D}, Server URL = https://www.update.microsoft.com/v6/ClientWebService/client.asmx
2016-08-23    19:59:49:642    1180    1258    Agent    WARNING: Failed to evaluate Installed rule, updateId = {07AEE973-703C-4F27-83F1-3E764D9ED2C7}.202, hr = 80041010
2016-08-23    20:00:13:969    5384    1520    Misc    ===========  Logging initialized (build: 7.6.7600.256, tz: +0200)  ===========
2016-08-23    20:00:13:969    5384    1520    Misc      = Process: C:\Windows\system32\wusa.exe
2016-08-23    20:00:13:969    5384    1520    Misc      = Module: c:\Windows\System32\wuapi.dll
2016-08-23    20:00:13:969    5384    1520    COMAPI    -----------  COMAPI: IUpdateServiceManager::AddScanPackageService  -----------
2016-08-23    20:00:13:969    5384    1520    COMAPI      - ServiceName = Windows Update Standalone Installer
2016-08-23    20:00:13:969    5384    1520    COMAPI      - ScanFileLocation = C:\3e1d5954d30df6e74d068fa2ac4f4d\wsusscan.cab
2016-08-23    20:00:14:000    1180    5d4    Misc    Validating signature for C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\ScanFile\f9808514-be85-4640-a22d-bee45d563393\Source.cab:
2016-08-23    20:00:14:031    1180    5d4    Misc     Microsoft signed: Yes
2016-08-23    20:00:14:062    1180    5d4    DtaStor    Default service for AU is {7971F918-A847-4430-9279-4A52D1EFE18D}
2016-08-23    20:00:14:062    5384    1520    COMAPI      - Added scan package service, ServiceID = {F9808514-BE85-4640-A22D-BEE45D563393} Third party service
2016-08-23    20:00:14:062    5384    1520    COMAPI    -------------
2016-08-23    20:00:14:062    5384    1520    COMAPI    -- START --  COMAPI: Search [ClientId = wusa]
2016-08-23    20:00:14:062    5384    1520    COMAPI    ---------
2016-08-23    20:00:14:062    5384    1520    COMAPI    <<-- SUBMITTED -- COMAPI: Search [ClientId = wusa]
2016-08-23    20:00:20:583    1180    1258    Driver    Matched driver to device ACPI\TOS1900
2016-08-23    20:00:20:583    1180    1258    Driver    Status: 0x4180000a, ProblemNumber: 00000000
2016-08-23    20:02:02:904    1180    1258    Misc    Validating signature for C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\WuRedir\7971F918-A847-4430-9279-4A52D1EFE18D\v6-legacy-muredir.cab:
2016-08-23    20:02:02:919    1180    1258    Misc     Microsoft signed: Yes
2016-08-23    20:02:03:013    1180    1258    Misc    Validating signature for C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\WuRedir\7971F918-A847-4430-9279-4A52D1EFE18D\v6-legacy-muredir.cab:
2016-08-23    20:02:03:013    1180    1258    Misc     Microsoft signed: Yes
2016-08-23    20:02:03:028    1180    1258    PT    +++++++++++  PT: Synchronizing extended update info  +++++++++++
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Posted 23 August 2016 - 01:58 PM

Willy22,

I did disable the wuauserv service. Immediately, I got a message "windows update experienced a problem, or error", and it shut down the stand-alone-update. Now, what should I do ?



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Posted 23 August 2016 - 02:03 PM

Now, I tried to restart the updater with wuauserv disabled, and got this:

 

 



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Posted 23 August 2016 - 02:08 PM

The image-file got lost. Here it is.

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Posted 23 August 2016 - 02:18 PM

- Make sure you disable "Wuauserv" BEFORE you try to install those updates (again).



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Posted 23 August 2016 - 03:07 PM

It looks like the "regular update" is also running, using the wuauserv, eating tons of memory, and CPU time for nothing. Maybe, I had to stop this service for the stand alone update ?

 

Hi haterms:

 

There are many Vista SP2 and Win 7 SP1 users currently reporting problems with slow Windows Updates.  The screenshot below shows the CPU consumption for Windows Update on my 32-bit Vista machine during my May 2016 Patch Tuesday updates.  The initial "Checking for updates..." phase ran for about 4 hours that month before it found 16 available updates, with svchost.exe constantly consuming ~50% of my CPU (i.e., complete saturation of one of my Intel dual cores) for that entire 4 hours.

 

Attached File  Windows Update A svchost 12 May 2016.png   26.12KB   1 downloads

 

Using Sysinternal's Process Explorer I was able to show that the entire ~50% of my CPU was consumed by the Windows Update service (wuauserv), and more specifically by a thread for the Windows Update Agent (wuaueng.dll).  See my post in Kayla's thread Processes in Task Manager During Updates in the Vista Forums for more information on how to use Process Explorer to diagnose if Windows Update components are responsible for the high CPU consumption by svchost.exe.

 

Attached File  WU PE svchost wuauserv 14 Apr 2016.png   60KB   1 downloads

 

Some users find that "Checking for updates..." will eventually run to completion if you let it run for several hours, but there is also a workaround posted on Dalai's webpage at http://wu.krelay.de/en/ (the same webpage mentioned at the bottom of Willy2's instructions for Win 7) that speeds up Windows Update.  This workaround requires users to pre-install the Windows kernel-mode driver (Win32K.sys) updates listed on that webpage if any are missing from your system before running Windows Update.  I've used Dalai's workaround for the past three Patch Tuesdays (the second Tuesday of each month) and it's reduced my "Checking for updates..." search for available updates from several hours down to approx. 25 min.

 

The current list of Win32K.sys updates on Dalai's webpage as of today (23-Aug-2016) is: KB3078601 (rel. 18-Aug-2015); KB3109094 (rel. 07-Dec-2015); KB3145739 (rel. 12-Apr-2016); KB3164033 (rel. 14-Jun-2016); KB3168965 (rel. 12-Jul-2016); KB3177725 (rel. 09-Aug-2016). You only have to install the updates that are missing from your system, so if you were fully patched as of the end of July 2016 you should only have to manually install the latest KB3177725 (MS16-098: Security Update for Windows Kernel-Mode Drivers: August 9, 2016) before you run Windows Update to install your remaining August 2016 Patch Tuesday updates.

 

The step-by-step instructions posted 16-Jun-2016 in m#l's thread Updates not working, it has been searching for updates for hours in the MS Answers forum will guide you through the process of installing the standalone update packages (.msu files) for your missing Win32K.sys update(s).

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Edited by lmacri, 23 August 2016 - 03:12 PM.


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Posted 23 August 2016 - 03:09 PM

I managed to install al the updates, but one, as admin, through elevated command prompt. KB3168965 did not install, telling that this update does not apply for mu computer.

I restarted the computer, and started automatic updates. I did not allow automated install, since I expect to many at once.



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Posted 23 August 2016 - 03:19 PM

Hi Imacri,

 

Thanks for jumping in. I did download, and install some critical updates, and now I enabled "regular update". Now, it is turning, searching. I will let it run for at least 12 hours. I am wondering whether I should have renamed, or deleted ...\windows\SoftwareDistribution ??



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Posted 23 August 2016 - 04:05 PM

- What is CPU and memory usage now ?

- DO NOT delete that folder. Otherwise you won't be able to see which updates have been installed.

- Did you reboot after installing each update from http://wu.krelay.de/en/  ?

- As said before WU should find all updates within say ~ 20 minutes, NOT 12 hours.


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Posted 23 August 2016 - 04:19 PM

Thanks for jumping in. I did download, and install some critical updates, and now I enabled "regular update". Now, it is turning, searching. I will let it run for at least 12 hours. I am wondering whether I should have renamed, or deleted ...\windows\SoftwareDistribution ??

 

Hi haterms:

 

I would also advise against deleting your \SoftwareDistribution folder or trying any other quick fixes for this problem.  You might have already damaged your Windows system files running tools like RegCure Pro and changing permissions of important registry entries with SubInAcl.

 

I started to see these "Checking for updates..." hangs in August 2015 (the first Patch Tuesday after Win 10 was officially released 29-Jul-2015) and the problem has gotten progressively worse every month.  I ran all the usual diagnostic tests [e.g., chkdsk /r, sfc /scannow, System Update Readiness Tool (MS CheckSUR), etc.] and even had a malware removal specialist in the Malwarebytes Malware Removal Help forum check my system for a malware or PUP infection (FRST, ESET Online, AdwCleaner, JRT, RKill, etc.), and none of these diagnostics found a problem with my 32-bit Vista computer.

 

I've followed multiple threads on these "Checking for updates..." hangs in various Vista forums and Dalai's temporary solution at http://wu.krelay.de/en/ is the only workaround I know of that can speed up these slow Windows Updates on Vista SP2 machines.

 

If you had used the step-by-step instructions posted 16-Jun-2016 in m#l's thread Updates not working, it has been searching for updates for hours in the MS Answers forum, I think you would have found that it was not necessary to stop your Windows Update service (wuauserv) to install your standalone update packages (.msu files).  Following Step 1 of those instructions [i.e., turn off automatic Windows Updates (Never check for updates) and re-boot] is usually sufficient to stop any background Windows Update sessions.  If your standalone update package still gets stuck at "Checking for updates..." the hint at the bottom of those instructions notes that you can temporarily disconnect from the internet, since .msu files are associated with the Windows Update Standalone Installer (C:\Windows\System32\wusu.exe) and can be installed on computers without an internet connection.  No harm done, though - temporarily stopping your Windows Update service (wuauserv) achieves the same thing, as Woody Leonhard notes in his 09-Aug-2016 Woody on Windows InfoWorld blog 2 easy steps to speed up Windows 7 Update scans.

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Edited by lmacri, 23 August 2016 - 04:38 PM.





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