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Why is my computer making this noise?


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#1 helpmecomputer

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Posted 17 August 2016 - 09:42 AM

Hello all

I will try to make this brief but that rarely happens

Yesterday I got a new case for my computer to allow me to upgrade it slowly

Even before the new case, i had a problem that my computer would make a continuous grinding noise. I originally thought it was just the stock case fan on the old case, but the new case has it's own fan and the same problem occurs.

I attached a video of the sound

Thanks for the help :) 

Cooper

 

 

Side note: I can't seem to attach the video because of the format... I'll keep trying

 

 

 

 

Specs:

 

 Operating System

 Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
 
CPU
 Intel Core i3 560 @ 3.33GHz 49 °C
 Clarkdale 32nm Technology
 
RAM
 4.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz (9-9-9-24)
 
Motherboard
 Dell Inc. 0C2KJT (CPU 1)
 
Graphics
 1024MB ATI AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series (MSI) 34 °C
 
Storage
 931GB Hitachi HUA722010CLA331 ATA Device (SATA) 37 °C
 
Optical Drives
 PLDS DVD+-RW DH-16AAS ATA Device
 
Audio
 USB Audio Class 1.0 and 2.0 Device Driver
 
Old Case
Dell Inspiron 580
 
New Case
NXT Source 210 (Window)


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Posted 17 August 2016 - 10:02 AM

Hello again...

I got the video reformatted to mp4 but still no luck on posting it...

Any ideas?

 

 



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Posted 17 August 2016 - 10:34 AM

Sorry for b3ing an idiot... i just upload3d it to youtub3... https://youtu.be/l6-iaHw42AE

 

Also, my k3y b3tw33n "w" and "r" isn't working anymor3


Edited by helpmecomputer, 17 August 2016 - 10:35 AM.


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Posted 18 August 2016 - 06:10 PM

That is a truly horrible noise !

 

You say you have eliminated the case fan by buying a new case, that leaves four possibilities: the hard drive; the CPU fan; the GPU fan; or the PSU fan. These re the only moving parts in a computer. I think you can safely ignore the hard drive - a hard drive making that sort of noise would be almost certainly dead.

 

Take the side off the computer and, with it running, touch each of the fan casings with a finger. You should be able to feel the vibration made by that amount of noise. Another old trick is to take a fairly long screwdriver with a solid handle, put the blade end against the casing and the other against either the side of your head or your teeth. Just be careful, whether you use a screwdriver or your fingers, NOT to touch the spinning fan blades themselves.

 

The CPU and GPU fans are fairly easily replaceable usually. If it turns out to be the PSU fan I would suggest replacing the PSU due to the possibility of dangerously high voltages inside these units even when disconnected from mains power and anything else.

 

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PS  You mentioned a second problem, with th? k?y betw??n w and r. This is almost certainly a simple keyboard problem, try a different keyboard.


Edited by Chris Cosgrove, 18 August 2016 - 06:12 PM.
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Posted 18 August 2016 - 06:21 PM

Hey Chris... Thanks for responding... I checked all of the things you suggested, but none of them give that vibration... I did find, however, that the cd drive did make this vibration... It could be that I am feeling it from somewhere else, due to it making a lot of contact with the case, which is also supported by the fact that I unplugged the power and SATA cables to the cd drive and the noise still occurs.



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Posted 18 August 2016 - 06:37 PM

Don't ask me how I forgot them - and I have two mounted in the desktop within arms reach at the moment !  But if you have disconnected the power lead it cannot be spinning and making the noise itself. It could be vibrating in harmonic response to something else.

 

That noise sounds like a bearing going really, really bad. With the computer switched off see if you can detect any movement on the fan blades at right angles to their rotation. This would indicate bearing play which shouldn't be there. Failing that, try the screwdriver trick.

 

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Posted 18 August 2016 - 06:56 PM

Alright, I tried again, and have deduced three possibilities.

They are the CPU fan, the cd drive, or the HDD. I say these three because these are the only parts on your list that were original to the computer when I first bought it, 3 years ago, as the computer was still making the sound then. I only noticed it now because the computer is on my desk, instead of underneath it. I have ruled out the CPU fan because it does not make anywhere near the vibrations of the other two, and we already ruled out the cd drive by unplugging it... This leads me to believe it is the HDD, which I have never had any problems with, as far as it doing it's job. Should I replace it? or just back it up and cross my fingers?



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Posted 19 August 2016 - 05:27 PM

While we are all taught that little in this world is impossible . . .

 

I find it difficult to believe that a hard drive making this sort of noise can still be working, unless you really had the gain on the mic turned all the way up. And even then !  I think your priorities are as follow -

 

(1)  Back up all your data ASAP to external storage. This should be done on a routine basis in any case.

 

(2)  Clone your full hard drive, using Macrium Reflect or similar, so that you can do a simple re-instatement of your complete system in case of need. For advice and instruction on doing this see the Back up and Imaging section in Security on BC.

 

(3)  Download the Seagate Tools for Windows from the Seagate web-site and run the long test. It doesn't matter if your HD isn't a Seagate, it will still work. This will give you a very good indication of the condition of your drive. Do this after you have done the back up as the test can strain a failing drive into a fail condition.

 

Option (1) is virtually mandatory, as I said it should be done on a routine basis in any case. Options (2) and (3) are exactly that - options. If you can live with the noise and are convinced it is coming from the HD you could carry on using it until it turns its toes up. At least if you have your data backed up you will be in a position to eventually put a new HD in without having lost anything valuable.

 

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Posted 20 August 2016 - 04:47 PM

Chris,

 

I really hate to tell you that I think you're wrong, especially because I think you know a lot more than myself about computers, but:

 

1) The only other thing that could be making the noise is the CD drive, which I disproved

 

2) The hard drive is a crappy stock one

 

3) I ran another "test" to find that when I unplugged the SATA and power cables to the drive. The noise ceased (Even though my PC did not boot (Obviously). ). If it's really necessary, I can hook up my SATA cable to my brother's hard drive and see if the noise persists... If not, I will look around for another week or so for answers before I get help from a hard drive specialist. 

 

-Cooper



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Posted 20 August 2016 - 04:54 PM

Uh... I can't really hear anything in the video?



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Posted 20 August 2016 - 05:04 PM

Uh... I can't really hear anything in the video?

Turn up your volume?



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Posted 20 August 2016 - 05:06 PM

 

Uh... I can't really hear anything in the video?

Turn up your volume?

 

I went maximum on the volume, still.



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Posted 20 August 2016 - 05:21 PM

"...I unplugged the SATA and power cables to the drive. The noise ceased..."

I must have missed something, how does the above rule out the hard-drive as being the noise maker?

Long ago, I had a few hard-drives that made quite a noise even though they were in mint condition, the early Maxtors comes to mind.


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Posted 20 August 2016 - 06:45 PM

I would still back up your data if only on the basis that it is good practice and should be done regularly. Even silent and brand new hard drives can fail at a moments notice.

 

I think you have missed something Roland. I think the OP said he unplugged the power and data leads from the hard drive and the noise didn't occur, although the computer didn't boot. So long as the fans were running this does point at the hard drive.

 

As for the sound on the video, no opinion. I had my speakers at their normal daytime music level.

 

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Posted 20 August 2016 - 07:03 PM

Chris, I got off course by this:

"... really hate to tell you that I think you're wrong...but:

1) The only other thing that could be making the noise is the CD drive, which I disproved

2) The hard drive is a crappy stock one..."

I probably misread what was posted.


Edited by RolandJS, 20 August 2016 - 07:04 PM.

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