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#1 Rusu

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Posted 02 August 2016 - 05:41 PM

haven't installed any updates in a few months so i decided to run the windows live update

i left it on for like an hour but it doesn't seem to do anything

 

did some googling and i manually applied

Update for Windows (KB2999226)
Security Update for Windows (KB3153199)

Update for Windows (KB3138612)

some suggested to try these and then the live updater would pick up and start working

however running it now seems to do nothing at all so not really sure what the problem is


 



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#2 Condobloke

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Posted 02 August 2016 - 09:25 PM

Try this :

 

 Download the .cab file:

 

http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9830262

 

launch it, and go through the prompts...

(This is the windows update diagnostic tool)


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Posted 03 August 2016 - 07:51 AM

Hi Rusu:

 

Many Vista SP2 and Win 7 SP1 users have been having problems with "Checking for updates..." hangs and slow Windows Updates for several months now, and the workaround posted on Dalai's webpage at http://wu.krelay.de/en/ solves this problem for many users.  From the Woody on Windows InfoWorld blog entry Microsoft yanks buggy speed-up patch KB 3161608, replaces it with KB 3172605 and 3172614 of 22-Jul-2016:

 

"At this point, I suggest you just ignore Microsoft and use the method described by an astute German blogger named Dalai. He has a description of the July fix to the Windows Update woes for Windows 7 and Vista."

 

I'd suggest you try the step-by-step instructions posted on 16-Jun-2016 in m#l's thread Updates not working, it has been searching for updates for hours in the MS Answers forum.  They are based on Dalai's workaround but include some extra tips and tricks for installing any of the five Windows kernel-mode driver (Win32K.sys) updates listed on Dalai's webpage that are currently missing from your system.  Those instructions are posted in a Vista board but will work for Win 7 SP1 users as well - just use the correct download links for your OS (e.g., Win7 x64 for 64-bit Win 7 SP1; Win7 x86 for 32-bit Win 7 SP1) when you reach Step # 4 of the instructions in m#l's thread.
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Edited by lmacri, 03 August 2016 - 08:20 AM.


#4 Rusu

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Posted 03 August 2016 - 12:49 PM

i can confirm that this did the trick for me

 

-what i got yesterday

Update for Windows (KB2999226)
Security Update for Windows (KB3153199)

Update for Windows (KB3138612)

 

-downloaded the cab file and ran it http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9830262

-installed the KB updates from here http://wu.krelay.de/en/

 

did not do the instructions from 16june 2016 but i am running the windows update service now

it found 111 updates, 107 important and i selected 4KB optional ones as well

downloading and installing, will hopefully be up to date after this

 

thanks for the help and i hope this can also work for others who experience this issue, good luck!



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Posted 03 August 2016 - 01:32 PM

i can confirm that this did the trick for me

 

-what i got yesterday

Update for Windows (KB2999226)
Security Update for Windows (KB3153199)

Update for Windows (KB3138612)

 

-downloaded the cab file and ran it http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9830262

-installed the KB updates from here http://wu.krelay.de/en/

 

did not do the instructions from 16june 2016 but i am running the windows update service now

it found 111 updates, 107 important and i selected 4KB optional ones as well

downloading and installing, will hopefully be up to date after this

 

Hi Rusu:

 

Glad to hear you were able to run Windows Update to completion.  Other users should note the following warning on Dalia's webpage at http://wu.krelay.de/en/:

 

"The term "solution" might be a little bit exaggerated, since the following HowTo only tries to make sure that the Update Agent doesn't need to check all updates, so the check for new updates is done faster. Futhermore, it's only a temporary solution; most likely the issue will appear again with the next Patchday."

 

That means that Win 7 SP1 and Vista SP2 users will have to check Dalai's webpage each Patch Tuesday (the second Tuesday of each month) to see if a new Win32K.sys updates has been added to his list of required updates that must be pre-installed to speed up Windows Update.  This will likely continue until Microsoft finally releases a stable patch for the Windows Update Agent (wuaueng.dll) that permanently fixes these slow Windows Updates.

 

This month the August 2016 Patch Tuesday is scheduled for 09-Aug-2016.
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Edited by lmacri, 03 August 2016 - 01:34 PM.


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Posted 03 August 2016 - 04:01 PM

""i can confirm that this did the trick for me""

 

I am glad that worked for you. Microsoft does get it right on occasion.


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fed up with Windows antics...??....LINUX IS THE ANSWER....I USE LINUX MINT 18.3  EXCLUSIVELY.

 

Microsoft gives you Windows, Linux gives you the whole house...

 

 

 

 

 


#7 Rusu

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Posted 09 September 2016 - 08:36 PM

just wanted to say that this worked for a friend as well so please leave this topic alive!

hopefully others can do the same and get their windows up to date using the instructions here

 

-i downloaded all the KB fixes and the CAB file and ran the cab file then the KB files one by one

(restart after each KB installer however could not get one of the KB files to install, no idea why so I just skipped it)

-after this run windows live update and let it do it's thing, you will see it downloading all the new updates and installing them



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Posted 09 September 2016 - 09:59 PM

Hi Rusu:

 

The temporary workaround mentioned in post # 3 to manually install any missing Windows kernel-mode driver (Win32K.sys) update(s) listed on Dalai's webpage at http://wu.krelay.de/en/ each Patch Tuesday (the second Tuesday of the month) continues to work for both Win 7 SP1 and Vista SP2, but Win 7 SP1 users are currently testing another method that might offer a permanent solution.

 

Woody Leonhard is recommending that Win 7 SP1 users affected by these slow Windows Updates now try the method in Canadian Tech's thread Windows 7 Update Solution in the MS Answers forum - see Woody's comment's in his 04-Sep-2016 AskWoody.com post MS-DEFCON 3: Get Windows patched, gingerly.  The optional KB3172605 update (July 2016 monthly update rollup for Win 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008 R2) recommended in Canadian Tech’s thread is a bundle of six separate non-security hotfixes, including KB3161647 (Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: June 2016) that updates the Win 7 Windows Update Agent (wuaueng.dll) to v7.6.7601.23453 and includes "An optimization that addresses long scan time for updates" and a fix for "Windows Update error 0x8007000E".   Unfortunately, Microsoft has not released an analogous patch for the Windows Update Agent for Vista, so Vista SP2 users must continue to use Dalai's workaround at http://wu.krelay.de/en/ each Patch Tuesday to speed up their Windows Updates.

Win 7 SP1 users who want to try Canadian Tech's solution to install the optional July 2016 monthly rollup KB3172605 should be aware that some users have had issues with Bluetooth connectivity (e.g., problems with their Bluetooth-connected mouse or keyboard) after installing this update, which is a known issue for the KB3133977 hotfix bundled inside this rollup.  Win 7 SP1 users testing Canadian Tech's method will have a better idea if the KB3172605 rollup is really a permanent fix for their slow Windows Updates next Tuesday (13-Sep-2016) when the September 2016 Patch Tuesday updates are released.

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Edited by lmacri, 09 September 2016 - 10:14 PM.


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Posted 02 October 2016 - 04:59 PM

hi there

 

I've just registered to say thanks to all, particularly to Imacri. I installed the optional KB3172605 and all is working as it should now. Thank you!



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Posted 02 October 2016 - 05:45 PM

Woody Leonhard is recommending that Win 7 SP1 users affected by these slow Windows Updates now try the method in Canadian Tech's thread Windows 7 Update Solution in the MS Answers forum - see Woody's comment's in his 04-Sep-2016 AskWoody.com post MS-DEFCON 3: Get Windows patched, gingerly.  The optional KB3172605 update (July 2016 monthly update rollup for Win 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008 R2) recommended in Canadian Tech’s thread is a bundle of six separate non-security hotfixes, including KB3161647 (Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: June 2016) that updates the Win 7 Windows Update Agent (wuaueng.dll) to v7.6.7601.23453 and includes "An optimization that addresses long scan time for updates" and a fix for "Windows Update error 0x8007000E".   Unfortunately, Microsoft has not released an analogous patch for the Windows Update Agent for Vista, so Vista SP2 users must continue to use Dalai's workaround at http://wu.krelay.de/en/ each Patch Tuesday to speed up their Windows Updates.

 

Win 7 SP1 users who want to try Canadian Tech's solution to install the optional July 2016 monthly rollup KB3172605 should be aware that some users have had issues with Bluetooth connectivity (e.g., problems with their Bluetooth-connected mouse or keyboard) after installing this update, which is a known issue for the KB3133977 hotfix bundled inside this rollup.

 

Just a bit of additional information about KB3172605 and Canadian Tech's thread Windows 7 Update Solution in the MS Answers forum:

 

Woody Leonhard posted an update on 14-Sep-2016 in his Woody On Windows blog entry KB 3185911 speeds up the Windows 7 scan for updates where he noted that Microsoft re-released KB3172605 on 13-Sep-2016 and included a fix for the Intel Wi-Fi bug.  That means that Win 7 users still have the option of either staying with Dalai's workaround at http://wu.krelay.de/en/ and installing a new Windows kernel-mode driver (Win32K.sys) update each month to speed up Windows Update, or try Canadian Tech's instructions to see if KB3172605 is a permanent fix.  From Woody's blog entry:

 

"So you can pick your poison and either install the one key patch that makes it work, or go ahead with the more-recent changes demonstrated by Canadian Tech."

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Edited by lmacri, 02 October 2016 - 05:54 PM.


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Posted 17 October 2016 - 01:45 PM

I had the problem where i would leave my computer on over night and the updates still weren't installed. I fixed my problem with one simple solution, it may not be the solution for everyone but maybe for a few. I simply made Internet Explorer my default browser and boom my updates installed in a flash.



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Posted 10 November 2016 - 10:19 PM

Hello all,

 

This is to confirm that on our side on 2 laptops with clean installations stuck on windows update, we were able to install KB3172605 and complete all updates.

 

Simply download the update KB3172605

Turn off Windows update service (Run cmd as administrator and type "net stop wuauserv")

Run the KB update you downloaded.

It will ask to restart, do so.

When back into windows the windows update service will be back on and should, if like us, start doing it's job.

 

Hope this helps, we got this going thanks to Imacri 2 posts higher than this one. 

 

Thanks.

 

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Posted 11 November 2016 - 09:39 AM

This is to confirm that on our side on 2 laptops with clean installations stuck on windows update, we were able to install KB3172605 and complete all updates...

 

Hi temsx:

Thanks for the feedback, and glad to hear that Windows Update is working again on your Win 7 SP1 machines.

I noticed that Dalai has now revised his instructions at http://wu.krelay.de/en/ and is also recommending that Win 7 SP1 users install KB3172605 as a permanent fix for slow Windows Updates.

 

Dalai's original workaround to install individual Windows kernel-mode driver (Win32K.sys) "speed up" patches every month hasn't been feasible for Win 7 SP1 since October 2016 when Microsoft started delivering security updates for this OS as single Monthly Rollups - see Michael Niehaus' MS TechNet 07-Oct-2016 blog entry More on Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 servicing changes for more info on these Monthly Rollups.  Fortunately, Dalai's recommended Win32K.sys speed up patches are still working on my old Vista SP2 machine.

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Edited by lmacri, 11 November 2016 - 09:42 AM.


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Posted 28 November 2016 - 05:24 PM

Hi Rusu:

 

The temporary workaround mentioned in post # 3 to manually install any missing Windows kernel-mode driver (Win32K.sys) update(s) listed on Dalai's webpage at http://wu.krelay.de/en/ each Patch Tuesday (the second Tuesday of the month) continues to work for both Win 7 SP1 and Vista SP2, but Win 7 SP1 users are currently testing another method that might offer a permanent solution.

 

Woody Leonhard is recommending that Win 7 SP1 users affected by these slow Windows Updates now try the method in Canadian Tech's thread Windows 7 Update Solution in the MS Answers forum - see Woody's comment's in his 04-Sep-2016 AskWoody.com post MS-DEFCON 3: Get Windows patched, gingerly.  The optional KB3172605 update (July 2016 monthly update rollup for Win 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008 R2) recommended in Canadian Tech’s thread is a bundle of six separate non-security hotfixes, including KB3161647 (Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: June 2016) that updates the Win 7 Windows Update Agent (wuaueng.dll) to v7.6.7601.23453 and includes "An optimization that addresses long scan time for updates" and a fix for "Windows Update error 0x8007000E".   Unfortunately, Microsoft has not released an analogous patch for the Windows Update Agent for Vista, so Vista SP2 users must continue to use Dalai's workaround at http://wu.krelay.de/en/ each Patch Tuesday to speed up their Windows Updates.

Win 7 SP1 users who want to try Canadian Tech's solution to install the optional July 2016 monthly rollup KB3172605 should be aware that some users have had issues with Bluetooth connectivity (e.g., problems with their Bluetooth-connected mouse or keyboard) after installing this update, which is a known issue for the KB3133977 hotfix bundled inside this rollup.  Win 7 SP1 users testing Canadian Tech's method will have a better idea if the KB3172605 rollup is really a permanent fix for their slow Windows Updates next Tuesday (13-Sep-2016) when the September 2016 Patch Tuesday updates are released.

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I have recently upgraded from Windows Vista to Windows 7 for $5, both experienced the same issue, the KB3172605 and KB3161647 fixed it in Windows 7. Thanx!



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Posted 29 November 2016 - 06:25 AM

I have recently upgraded from Windows Vista to Windows 7 for $5, both experienced the same issue, the KB3172605 and KB3161647 fixed it in Windows 7. Thanx!


That deal sounds "too good to be true" - AFAIK, the few remaining, available legal copies of Win7 are selling for much more than $5.

 

I suspect you do not have a legal copy of Win7. :(

 

Time will tell...

 

MM

 

P.S. But, yes, KB 3172605 (and 3020369), when manually installed, seem to fix the perpetual "checking for updates" issue with WU client under Win7.






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