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Is 7ms that bad?


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#1 j1983

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Posted 24 July 2016 - 06:19 AM

I need a 19'' monitor, no space for a larger one, the only one I can find locally is this AOC M2060SWD fullHD monitor which seems decent enough but it does have a 7 ms gtg, which from what I understand is quite poor. 

 

It seemed fine at the store playing the video they had of some Korean girl group dancing around and stuff. In hoping to find more info online I came across this video that show some ghosting effect. I don't know if it's due to the monitor itself or some other issue but I didn't notice any type of ghosting or trails at the store. 

 

Video I found:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gNnPAx20kM

It doesn't say much. I don't know if this is the monitor itself causing this, the gpu, or even the camera they used to film it

 

Here's the monitor website and specs:http://www.aocmonitorap.com/v2015/my/product_display.php?id=5111

 

I'm using a 17'' 1280x1024 dell monitor right now which is about 10 years old. I find it hard to believe a newer model, even a budget one could be worse in any aspect. 


Edited by j1983, 24 July 2016 - 06:19 AM.


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Posted 24 July 2016 - 06:58 AM

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Maybe you find this discussion useful... http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/250821-28-what


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Posted 24 July 2016 - 07:52 AM

I don't think 7ms matters if you do not do a lot of gaming. Higher ms can lead to ghosting when playing games. 

 

I'm not sure of your location but if you have a BestBuy near you and you live in the U.S. there is a sale going on for that monitor. If not at least you can see it got fairly good reviews.

 

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/aoc-19-5-led-hd-monitor-black/7292062.p?id=1218838639180



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Posted 24 July 2016 - 10:39 AM

I don't think 7ms matters if you do not do a lot of gaming. Higher ms can lead to ghosting when playing games. 

 

I'm not sure of your location but if you have a BestBuy near you and you live in the U.S. there is a sale going on for that monitor. If not at least you can see it got fairly good reviews.

 

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/aoc-19-5-led-hd-monitor-black/7292062.p?id=1218838639180

 

I wish it were that one but the one I'm looking at has an M at the start and the one you linked has an E. That version has a 5ms GTG and no apparent issues with ghosting or trails. 


Edited by j1983, 24 July 2016 - 10:39 AM.


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Posted 24 July 2016 - 10:46 AM

You are right. Sorry. I missed that.



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Posted 27 July 2016 - 11:17 PM

You are right. Sorry. I missed that.

No worries at all. I'm pretty certain they do this with their model numbers to confuse and baffle people who want to go out and their products. 




With regard to ghosting and seeing trails on a monitor, is there any way to test the screen other than dragging a window around really fast? It's hard sometimes to differentiate between actual trails ghosting and those caused by the imagination knowing you are looking at a screen with a slower response time. 

I almost pulled the trigger on an acer where the idiot salesman told me it was a 4ms screen but it turned out to be 8ms when I checked online. It seems like most 19'' screens with full hd are of the same specifications 7 or 8ms. Maybe I should consider a 1336x768 or 1600x800 if it gets me a better response time. 



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Posted 28 July 2016 - 09:09 AM

Dragging a window or playing a arcade game is the only way I know of to test ghosting. 

 

I came across this thread where anything below 8ms GTG is okay for games but the thread is 8 years old. 

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/250821-28-what

 

Here is a more current thread.

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/62823-3-response-time-good-gaming


Edited by JohnC_21, 28 July 2016 - 09:09 AM.


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Posted 28 July 2016 - 11:13 AM

Thanks. I've been reading and looking up old threads as well. I'll look into those links too. 

 

It turns out the video the freaked me out and caused me to start this thread was exaggerated a bit by the uploader posting it in slow motion. All the threads i've read so far seem to suggest it's ok. for regular use. 



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Posted 28 July 2016 - 11:17 AM

How did the computer look at the store? Did you notice any ghosting on fast moving images? Perhaps the store would let you try playing a online game to test.



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Posted 28 July 2016 - 08:38 PM

It looked ok with their video playing some dancing girl band on it. It was only after I saw the clip on youtube that I freaked out a bit. 

 

I plan on going back there to test it. 






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