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Any Antivirus program needed to supplement Defender in Win10?


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#1 webetc

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Posted 22 July 2016 - 05:22 PM

I understand that Windows 10 comes with its own security software (Defender). 
 
Do i still need to add a standalone Antivirus (like Avast or AWG) to a Windows 10 computer?

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Posted 22 July 2016 - 08:25 PM

Depends.....how long has it been since a computer of yours was infected with malware?

 

A user who is well informed on how malware gets on their computer and follows some rather basic rules don't need to add additional security programs.

 

The reality is that new malware is found on the internet every day....if not every hour.

Reliance on signature based security programs just want protect you from new malware for days and sometimes years.

 

Then there is adware....a huge problem these days. Almost all of it bundled with free programs and add-ons....including free security programs. Some acting

very much like malware and as difficult to remove.


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Posted 22 July 2016 - 09:32 PM

Depends.....how long has it been since a computer of yours was infected with malware?....

 

As far as I know, there is no malware on my PC so far

 

It is a fairly new PC and my first with Windows 10 - hence my question, do I need to protect it with a secondary antivirus like Avast / AWG etc?

 

And how do I protect myself from Adware - other than not installing software that is not known to be reputable? 



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Posted 23 July 2016 - 06:38 AM

I understand that Windows 10 comes with its own security software (Defender). 
 
Do i still need to add a standalone Antivirus (like Avast or AWG) to a Windows 10 computer?

No. Windows 8 and Windows 10 integrates a more robust version of Windows Defender (and uses that name) for its anti-virus and anti-malware protection. Windows 8/10 Defender provides the same level of protection against malware as Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) provides on older operation systems and uses the same daily virus definition updates. If you use Windows 8/10 Defender as your primary anti-virus, there is no need to install another anti-virus solution.

In fact, if you install a third-party anti-virus Windows 8/10 Defender typically is automatically disabled by the installation and will remain disabled until that anti-virus software has been completely uninstalled.

Although Windows 8/10 Defender provides some anti-malware protection...it is weak, meaning it does not provide comprehensive protection and cannot prevent, detect and remove all threats at any given time. This is true for most anti-virus solutions. Anti-virus and anti-malware programs each perform different tasks as it relates to computer security and threat detection. Essentially, they look for and remove different types of malicious threats.

In simplistic terms, Anti-virus programs generally scan for infectious malware which includes viruses, worms, Trojans, rootkis and bots.
Anti-malware programs generally tend to focus more on adware, spyware, unwanted toolbars, browser hijackers, potentially unwanted programs and potentially unsafe applications.
Anti-virus and Anti-malware solutions with anti-exploitation features protect against zero-day malware, drive-by downloads, exploits and Exploit Kits.

Therefore, you need both an anti-virus and an anti-malware solution for maximum protection.Please read Supplementing your Anti-Virus Program with Anti-Malware Tools for information about trustworthy and effective anti-malware programs.
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Posted 02 August 2016 - 11:28 PM

Norton 360 has been really working well for me although it is not free and is pretty expensive yearly to keep it running.


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Posted 03 August 2016 - 07:46 AM

Since Windows 8/10 Defender includes anti-virus protection, it typically is disabled by the installation of a third-party anti-virus program. Windows Defender recognizes the install and automatically disables itself when other anti-virus products are used to avoid conflicts.
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Posted 06 August 2016 - 08:24 PM

Might be a controversial mildly dissenting opinion, but I don't consider Defender to be 'all that effective' as an AV. If it was, would as many folks with Win8/8.1/Win10 be getting as much malware as they seem to be? (Yes, Defender does perform a function, and is fine for computers that do not really visit much other than safe sites, and, of course it is better than nothing. But I'd be hard pressed to say Defender is 'as good' as all the free alternatives. Even if folks disagree, great, it is a free country. Folks can always use the plethora of 2nd opinion scanners available, such as MBAM, etc...)

 

I've was impressed with 360TS for the two years I used it, but am currently trying "SecureAPlus", which has a 1 yr free trial, and, seemed to work great at blocking the assorted cryptolockers it was tested against on youtube; despite's it's 'scammy-sounding' name, it seems quite effective, and, when in doubt, it blocks and gives you the option to allow/disallow. When was the last time anyone saw Defender actually block or find.... anything? :)


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Posted 07 August 2016 - 07:25 AM

The user is the first and last line of defense and security is a constant effort to stay one step ahead of the bad guys. No amount of security software is going to defend against today's sophisticated malware writers for those who do not practice safe computing and stay informed. It has been proven time and again that the user is a more substantial factor (weakest link) in security than the architecture of the operating system or installed protection software.
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