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#1 Portoman

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Posted 22 July 2016 - 12:00 PM

Hi

 

I am planning to create a couple of websites, but does anyone have any advice on how to get the site "known" ? I gather it is to do with things like SEO etc, but I am thinking about paying someone to do that for me - but is it worth it ? Depends on how much ? I know there is stuff on youtube, but I kind of think that paying someone who knows would be a better option.

 

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#2 tinysnook

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Posted 02 August 2016 - 03:28 AM

1) It's worth

2) There are many seo agencies today to fit any budget. But be careful, saving money by choosing the cheapest agency may cost you way more in the future (may get punished by Google for black-hat SEO for example)

3) Basically, SEO is divided into Onpage and Offpage (linkbuilding). You can do basic stuff yourself: Titles, Descriptions, Headings. It won't be perfect but it's free =) Also, I'd suggest checking backlinko.com if you have time and will to dive a bit deeper in SEO.

The truth about linkbuilding is that it's expensive. It doesn't matter if you build links yourself or pay others to build them, white-hat seo costs money as it requires a lot of time. You can't just buy 1000 links for 10 cents anymore.

 

Answering your question "how to get the site "known" -> write the best content you can -> do onsite SEO (URLs, Titles, etc) -> look for communities, blogs interested in your topic and contribute to them.

Sure, if you can invest at least $500 per month you can find a freelancer to do the job. But don't trust claims like "$100 for top 3 in Google".



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Posted 21 October 2016 - 05:49 AM

Go for a mix of SEO and paid traffic, build good quality links to your site and promote it on social sites. More importantly, track the traffic using known analytics tools like GA or Gostats and rinse and repeat what works.



#4 Portoman

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Posted 29 October 2016 - 03:35 PM

Okay. So how much would be a reasonable amount to pay ? I don't have a lot, so hundreds of pounds a months is not going to happen.



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Posted 04 February 2017 - 03:38 AM

Effective techniques are constantly changing and there's more misinformation thrown about in this field than in any other I've seen. Be careful in hiring an agency if you decide to go that route. Make sure it's one you initiate contact with and not vice versa. If all the companies that contact you by phone or email whenever you register a domain and don't pay for privacy (or some site sells your email info) were any good at what they do they wouldn't need to scour the ICANN database for new registrations and try to take advantage of someone who often times is naive when it comes to matters such as these.



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 10:30 AM

There is enough information on the internet to be good at it for yourself. 

 

All paid companies do is register you with a load of directories that are pretty much useless. Learn the basics of coding and use the right words in the right places and it's really not that hard!



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Posted 17 February 2017 - 03:47 AM

I totally agree. However thr information out there isn't nearly as reliable as it once was.

Even the prominent sites: SEO Journal, Search Engine Land, etc. still feature articles from years ago that are no longer 100% accurate.

I personally got good at in 2005. Thinks have changed. Getting a page indexed takes longer now than in the past, and relevant, authority links are the only ones that push the needle meaningfully.

Sure, directory links aren't the death sentence many claimed when the animal updates started rolling in, but they can get you in trouble if they make up too high a % of your total link profile. Same goes for forums, guest blogging, and especially comment links. A lot of link building tactics that were once priceless are now dangerous if relied on too heavily and not combined with high-quality, authority lnks from relevant sites.

On-page factors are important, but as long as they're competent they won't get you there alone.

My theory is that user behavior is growing in importance - what's user does after hitting "search." CTR, time one site, pages viewed, bounce rate and especially whether the searcher hits the back button and keeps looking.

There are lots of tools out there. MOZ is among my favorite Chrome extensions, but the pro version is exenpensive as hell if you're not an SEO agency/firm.

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 04:03 AM

Bounce rate and click through rates are an enormous ranking factor! 

 

I got one page to jump from page 12 to page 1 with no backlinks, and only the correct URL and content on the page. The page was designed to have a form that everyone clicked on and it worked. Meaning that the bounce rate was 0%. This shot me up the rankings with no authority backlinks straight away.

 

If you want to get good at SEO you need to design the page right! 






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