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Posted 13 August 2006 - 01:12 AM

I am here to ask about overclocking. I have AMD athlon™ 64 processor 3000+ 2.0GHZ, 2.5GB of Ram.

What would be the ideal limit for my computer of overclocking?
and I could not find how to overclock ram? does anyone know how to?

(Moderator edit: post moved to more appropriate forum. jgweed)

Edited by jgweed, 13 August 2006 - 02:18 AM.


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Posted 13 August 2006 - 04:06 AM

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Posted 13 August 2006 - 04:07 AM

Read this, and at the bottom of the page there is a link which will take you to instructions for over clocking.

This article doesn't cover the dangers of overclocking as thoroughly as I would like to see, so please also read about the disadvantages of overclocking by novices here.

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Posted 13 August 2006 - 09:24 AM

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Posted 13 August 2006 - 06:53 PM

Well I don't really suggest overclocking. It can be dangerous.

Some people do it for fun, other's to save money. The Athlon 64 +3000 has it's multipliers locked ( If they weren't, overclocking would be so damn easy and fun ) Only he Intel Extreme edition and AMD's FX line have the multipliers un locked. Doesn't mean you can't overclock it though. Just means instead of overclocking the core, you need to overclock the FSB ( front side bus ) the FSB is the bus which your CPU communicates with everythign else, sound card, RAM, ect.

When you overclock, you basicly increase the voltage in the core making it work faster and harder. It'll be more unstable and create more heat. So if you're actually going to do it, make sure you have good cooling.

The ideal limit is hard to tell, you'd have to overclock your FSB, so it really depends on how well everything can adjust to the high frequency.
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Posted 13 August 2006 - 09:59 PM

Overclocking? Hmmm, been there, done that, even got a TShirt for it!

BUT......it costs a lot if you're not careful. You can fry your components with just one simple mistake. I gave up on overclocking because I was sick and tired of ruining perfectly good hardware because of my pursuit of clock speed. Oh, and don't forget that overclocking generates more heat - so you'll need to improve your cooling solution before starting to mess with the settings!

That being said, if you still want to overclock the first thing to do is to read, and read a lot. It's not as simple as just bumping up your RAM a notch or two. On my system there's at least 7 separate settings that affect the RAM speed and they all affect each other - so it takes a lot of experimenting to find the right mix of settings. And, it also relates somewhat to any CPU overclocking that you may do. And that overclocking may affect your other components (like your video card, sound card, LAN card, etc).

So, start reading up on what the BIOS settings do on your system. And then start reading up on overclocking techniques. Here's my favorite links for each (but a google search will give you much more):
http://www.rojakpot.com/show.aspx?fileID=18
http://www.overclockers.com/
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Posted 14 August 2006 - 05:49 AM

Well I don't really suggest overclocking. It can be dangerous.

Some people do it for fun, other's to save money. The Athlon 64 +3000 has it's multipliers locked ( If they weren't, overclocking would be so damn easy and fun ) Only he Intel Extreme edition and AMD's FX line have the multipliers un locked. Doesn't mean you can't overclock it though. Just means instead of overclocking the core, you need to overclock the FSB ( front side bus ) the FSB is the bus which your CPU communicates with everythign else, sound card, RAM, ect.

When you overclock, you basicly increase the voltage in the core making it work faster and harder. It'll be more unstable and create more heat. So if you're actually going to do it, make sure you have good cooling.

The ideal limit is hard to tell, you'd have to overclock your FSB, so it really depends on how well everything can adjust to the high frequency.

I have overclocked my FSB, but you said that The Athlon 64 +3000 has it's multipliers locked, what is the difference between overclocking the FSB and the multipliers.

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Posted 14 August 2006 - 06:10 AM

The speed of the processor is determined by two things: the FSB and the multiplier. So you get the processor speed by multiplying the multiplier with the FSB, so with the 3000+ it goes like this: 200FSB * 9 = 1800MHz. Overclocking the FSB to say 220 changes the equation to 220 *9 = 1980MHz. But when you overclock the FSB you overclock every part of the computer, which isn't a very good idea, since some parts of the computer won't overclock properly. Athlon FX and Core 2 Extreme processors have their multiplier unlocked. The Athlon FX-53 has 200FSB * 12 = 2400MHz. And since it is multiplier unlocked you can raise the multiplier instead of the FSB, like this 200 * 14 = 2800MHz. Now you can overclock only the processors and not risk damaging other parts of the computer which are sensitive the overclocking.
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Posted 17 August 2006 - 03:59 AM

ok, but would it make a difference if I only overclock the FSB(since the mutiplier is locked) from 200MHz to 205MHz? And if it does, are there any free benchmarkers that I can use them to test?

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 11:03 AM

Yes, it will make your system faster and probably score a bit higher in something like 3Dmark2006. But It's not really recomended unless you know what you're doing and are prepared for the conciquences.
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Posted 18 August 2006 - 02:46 AM

has anyone heard about proctune? is it really that effective?

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Posted 19 August 2006 - 11:15 PM

hello, anyone?

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Posted 20 August 2006 - 08:05 AM

I cannot find a single instance of anybody being satisfied with ProcTune. I wouldn't trust it.
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Posted 20 August 2006 - 09:14 AM

From a quick read, it doesn't do anything that other freeware tools won't do. Try http://www.overclockers.com/ for more info on overclocking.
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Posted 24 August 2006 - 02:27 AM

you said no one was satisfied with ProcTune, but what does it actually do?




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