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Getting back up and running (Reacquiring/Installing) Windows 8


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#1 iqchicken

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Posted 13 June 2016 - 02:52 PM

A couple of years ago I bought a pre-built system from Newegg. It included (of course) a hdd which came with windows 8 already on it.

 

That hdd recently clicked and whirred it's way to an untimely death. Now, I have a windows 8 product key - but no software disc, ISO, or other media from which to reinstall that OS onto a replacement hdd. I've done some reading and it appears that either I should fork out money for Windows 10, or "be on the computer you want to install Windows 8 to" - which.. without a working OS on that computer is not possible.

 

I guess I'm looking for direction. Should I bother reacquiring Win 8? Will it be automatically upgraded to 10 if I do get it? I'd rather not fork over a couple hundred bucks when I already had a copy of 8 which had then been (over the years) automatically updated to 10.

 

It has been a few years since I was involved with computers (in general) so I'm a bit behind the power curve. I used to build my own systems back in the Win NT days - so forgive me if any responses are antiquated. Thanks for any and all help. This site has been great over the years!


System:

-Windows 10 pro 64 bit

-HDD (WD10EZEX)

-MSI B75MA-P45 (MS-7798)

-Socket 1155 LGA

-AMD Radeon HD 7700

-2 STICKS OF 16GB DDR 3 RAM (G.Skill F3-10666CL9-8GBNT)

-K120 Logitech Keyboard

-Centrophorus M601 Mouse


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Posted 13 June 2016 - 06:47 PM

Microsoft has started rolling out Windows 10 Threshold 2 November update. This is the single biggest update coming to Windows 10 and users can get it via normal Windows update. The Microsoft has already released the new ISO files for Windows 10 Threshold 2 (November Update). Both Windows 10 Threshold 2 32-bit and 64-bit ISO files can be downloaded with the Url link given below.  We recommend all Windows 10 users to download and install Windows 10 Threshold 2 update as soon as possible as it comes loaded with plenty of improvements and new features that will make the PCs more reliable and faster.
With Windows 10 Threshold 2 update, Microsoft has fulfilled the promise to change the Windows 10 activation process and allowed you to use your Windows 7, 8 or 8.1 product keys for activation directly after clean installation.

 In order to activate Windows 10 with Windows 7 , Windows 8 or Windows 8.1 product key, while clean installing Windows 10 skip the part where you need to enter the Windows 10 key.
Windows 10 copy will be installed as an evaluation copy and you’ll be allowed to enter the Windows 7, 8 or 8.1 key for activation.
Windows 10 activated from Settings ---> Update & security ---> Activation --->  Change Product Key. Here you can enter the product key you obtained from with your Windows 7 or 8.1 PC.

Windows 10 Threshold 2 Build 10586 ISO Image Downloads


Edited by FreeBooter, 13 June 2016 - 06:49 PM.

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Posted 14 June 2016 - 03:44 PM

Wow, thank you for that information. I definitely hadn't read anything about reverse compatibility of any kind before now. I'll give it a shot! Of course, I need to wait for the new hdd to get here and figure out a way to burn the cd. THEN I'll give it a shot. :)


System:

-Windows 10 pro 64 bit

-HDD (WD10EZEX)

-MSI B75MA-P45 (MS-7798)

-Socket 1155 LGA

-AMD Radeon HD 7700

-2 STICKS OF 16GB DDR 3 RAM (G.Skill F3-10666CL9-8GBNT)

-K120 Logitech Keyboard

-Centrophorus M601 Mouse


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Posted 14 June 2016 - 04:16 PM

Your are very welcome, if you have question about burning Windows 10 ISO image to DVD-R media you can ask here we will do our best to answer your question.


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Posted 14 June 2016 - 05:14 PM

Great, thanks! I'm  sure,  nowadays, all you have to do is (conceptually) drag and drop the iso onto the disc and you're good to go. I'll repost with results to close the loop if/when everything is back up.


System:

-Windows 10 pro 64 bit

-HDD (WD10EZEX)

-MSI B75MA-P45 (MS-7798)

-Socket 1155 LGA

-AMD Radeon HD 7700

-2 STICKS OF 16GB DDR 3 RAM (G.Skill F3-10666CL9-8GBNT)

-K120 Logitech Keyboard

-Centrophorus M601 Mouse


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Posted 16 June 2016 - 08:07 PM

Great, thanks! I'm  sure,  nowadays, all you have to do is (conceptually) drag and drop the iso onto the disc and you're good to go. I'll repost with results to close the loop if/when everything is back up.

Sorry for late reply don't drag drop Windows ISO image as Windows may only create data disk for you which is not bootable disc you can use free disc burning software like ImgBurn. Starting from Windows 7 Microsoft included ISO image burner but Windows 7 this tool is not given as a option you will need to use command line for this tool to burn a ISO image to disc but with Windows 8 and later version of Windows OS you can use the new Windows Explorer ribbon in Windows 8 to burn ISO image to disc. Selecting the appropriate type of file activates the Disc Image Tools contextual tab.
 

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The image burning tool commands are:

 

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Windows Disc Image Burner Usage
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Usage:

ISOBURN.EXE [/Q] [<drive letter>:] <disc image file name>

  /Q: Starts burning in the Burn Disc Image window.

 


Edited by FreeBooter, 16 June 2016 - 08:10 PM.

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Posted 16 June 2016 - 08:45 PM

Great to know - thanks again. I just got my hard drive today and now I have to track down a disc to burn. I will see how everything goes and by the end of the weekend I should be up and running again. Fingers crossed.


System:

-Windows 10 pro 64 bit

-HDD (WD10EZEX)

-MSI B75MA-P45 (MS-7798)

-Socket 1155 LGA

-AMD Radeon HD 7700

-2 STICKS OF 16GB DDR 3 RAM (G.Skill F3-10666CL9-8GBNT)

-K120 Logitech Keyboard

-Centrophorus M601 Mouse


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Posted 16 June 2016 - 08:48 PM

You are very welcome, keep as updated with the result good luck.


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Posted 17 June 2016 - 03:13 AM

Well it's about midnight and I'm scratching my head. I suppose that means it's time for an update. I have made the bootable disc just fine. It's going through setup - but the new wd10ezex hard drive does not appear to be spinning up (unless it's super duper quiet). It's not detected during setup either. It doesn't appear to be detected even in the bios. 

This is where my old-school knowledge is outclassed. Things like ahci and hotplugging and sata3 didn't exist during my hayday. 

To my knowledge though, my MSI b75map45 should be able to handle the wd10ezex 60wn4a0 (1tb blue). I have a hard time believing it's not getting enough power but I'm all ears at this point. I only hope it's not another dead hard drive - my brain might implode It is a 6GB Sata port which I thought was good enough. 

 I've tried swapping power and sata cables, enabled/disabled hotplugging (just in case), 

Before I finished this post - the hard drive magically showed up in the setup - then it had problems creating partitions for a few minutes with errors like 0x8007045d. Now I somehow how a 300gb partition (primary), a 500MB partition that was automatically created, and the remainder of the drive in unallocated space. This has been a very annoying and unnecessarily difficult install for some reason - it remains to be seen if it will end up being successful. Right now it says "Copying Windows files (0%) and it has been sitting there for a while. Now that it's almost 0130 in the morning - I may just turn the monitor off and hope for the best when I wake up.

 

I miss windows 3.1 :hysterical:


System:

-Windows 10 pro 64 bit

-HDD (WD10EZEX)

-MSI B75MA-P45 (MS-7798)

-Socket 1155 LGA

-AMD Radeon HD 7700

-2 STICKS OF 16GB DDR 3 RAM (G.Skill F3-10666CL9-8GBNT)

-K120 Logitech Keyboard

-Centrophorus M601 Mouse


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Posted 17 June 2016 - 11:02 AM

Update #2:

 

Woke up this morning and came in to see that it never made it past 0% - but it made it to another partitioning error. Now, the hard drive has vanished from everywhere again.

 

Doing an unplug - power drain - replug made it "detected again. I also picked a power cable on a completely different wire for ghits and shiggles. Percentages on installation are now going up - back to the waiting game. Faulty power cable? (shrug) Time will tell.


System:

-Windows 10 pro 64 bit

-HDD (WD10EZEX)

-MSI B75MA-P45 (MS-7798)

-Socket 1155 LGA

-AMD Radeon HD 7700

-2 STICKS OF 16GB DDR 3 RAM (G.Skill F3-10666CL9-8GBNT)

-K120 Logitech Keyboard

-Centrophorus M601 Mouse


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Posted 17 June 2016 - 11:38 AM

Update #3:

 

Everything finally installed but the product key yields error code: 0xc004f210 - "The product key you are entering cannot be used to activate this edition". The research continues.


System:

-Windows 10 pro 64 bit

-HDD (WD10EZEX)

-MSI B75MA-P45 (MS-7798)

-Socket 1155 LGA

-AMD Radeon HD 7700

-2 STICKS OF 16GB DDR 3 RAM (G.Skill F3-10666CL9-8GBNT)

-K120 Logitech Keyboard

-Centrophorus M601 Mouse


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Posted 17 June 2016 - 12:06 PM

I you live in the States then call  (888) 571-2048 and ask for a live person. Give them your Windows 8 key and ask why you cannot activate Windows 10.

 

You can also download Windows 8.1 here

 

.http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/create-reset-refresh-media


Edited by JohnC_21, 17 June 2016 - 12:08 PM.


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Posted 18 June 2016 - 06:44 PM

I'm finally up and running - now to eventually get a new graphics card!

 

Thanks again for the help - I ended up having a few problems getting 8 to run and eventually just registered the version that was on my first dvd download (10 pro). It cost me - and I did it on impulse - but now it's all working anyway.

 

In years past I would normally buy a completely new system (since mine is about 3.5 years old now).. but it's going ok for now


System:

-Windows 10 pro 64 bit

-HDD (WD10EZEX)

-MSI B75MA-P45 (MS-7798)

-Socket 1155 LGA

-AMD Radeon HD 7700

-2 STICKS OF 16GB DDR 3 RAM (G.Skill F3-10666CL9-8GBNT)

-K120 Logitech Keyboard

-Centrophorus M601 Mouse


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Posted 18 June 2016 - 06:51 PM

Thanks for the update. Glad you are finally up and running.






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