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#1 pcpunk

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Posted 12 June 2016 - 09:24 PM

Hey guys, I would love to be able to backup my files from my Main USB to a new bigger better USB.  At the same time be able to keep doing this with the option to just Update the new files to the other USB as a backup, just like a "Backup Image" I guess.  I looked at "rsync" but it seems complicated with commands and such.  Any good ideas for something maybe with a GUI?  I was looking at something like this recently but cannot find it now.

 

I thought to just Copy Paste them, but that would leave me having to baby sit the whole process at the second Backup right?

 

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Posted 17 June 2016 - 11:02 AM

Seeing there is no suggestions here I took this question to another Forum, thanks anyway.


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Posted 17 June 2016 - 08:09 PM

So maybe a script like this....(typed in gedit....saved as    backup(~/bin)-gedit)

 

 

sudo rsync -avh -P -stats /media/brian/backup/linuxmint2016/ /media/brian/backup2/linuxmint2016/

 

 

 

(doing the necessary substitutions...your name for mine etc etc etc)

 

This backs up my "backup" hard drive (separate hdd from my OS ssd) to an external , plug in usb drive{backup2})
 


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Posted 18 June 2016 - 02:33 AM

Nice one, Brian. When you embrace an OS, you don't just dip your toes in the pool, you dive in and take a swim.

 

Rsync is a good command to get your teeth into, and not just for sysadmins performing remote backups (where it is most often used) ... although it can be a little hard to "digest" sometimes.

 

It is also the underlying engine or backend for such products as BackInTime and Timeshift.

 

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Hey punk, I just put on a 17.1 KDE I had kicking around in my "DistroIsos" folder (605 packages to update, lol) to duplicate your environment, and am just formatting a couple of recalcitrant USB sticks to backup one to the other.

 

Before I (or we, with Brian) reinvent the wheel have you found a solution at another forum, if so, what?

 

Cheers

 

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Posted 18 June 2016 - 02:09 PM

I got a few suggestions but have not decided which way to go, I'll need to study up a little more before I decide.  Grsync and Back in time were the two suggestions, and I'm leaning towards Grsync because it's supposedly "Cross Platform"  Don't really know if I need cross platform yet, perhaps I could always just do this on linux box.  Certainly need something that will allow using USB on both Linux and Windows keeping permissions right.  And Grsync had some options that I thought were nice, like preserving dates that files were created etc.

 

Learning is not that easy right now due to my health but I would try to do the rsync thing with commands if someone would make it clear to me.  

 

Like this maybe: I could post the Pathway to the first Medium, then the second Medium, then maybe someone could put the command together.  I kinda get it, and will read up on it more now, but will just need to dive in sooner or later.  I just want to be careful with all my Data, that stupidly has not all been backed up yet, but some has.  I was keeping all on linux box and backing up to the USB, then just making sure all files were equal on both. 

 

I have rsync installed I believe with Timeshift so will look at the "man" page.  Been in Windows a lot lately so forgive me please.


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Posted 18 June 2016 - 05:33 PM

Understand totally and take your time, buddy.

 

Friend Punk's Piriform Speccy details in his signature are worth taking a look at. When I first "met" him, he only had the space-starved Acer.

 

I had forgotten to factor into the equation the Windows usage, hence cross-platform may be relevant with a GUI solution. Brian may be sans Windows by now, is that so, Brian?

 

@pcpunk:

 

Mate, the Toshiba Satellite has 298GB WD HDD is that still operational? I am wondering if there is merit in copying the USB stick/s in question to that HDD as a safeguard while you explore options?

 

Hope the health status improves.

 

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Posted 18 June 2016 - 06:03 PM

Hi, all.

 

Got to mention this, but Puppy has its own built-in GUI-based utility, called pBackup. Doesn't help you, pcpunk, but for anyone wanting to try out Puppy, and needing to keep stuff backed-up regularly, this very neat, home-grown option (by our very own Sigmund Berglund....'ziggy' to forum members) does exist, and is built in to most Pups as standard.

 

It offers one-time backup, scheduled, multi-file/directory full-path backup, and of course, sync. It's like an easier version of rSync, and in the best Puppy tradition, has a multiplicity of tool-tips to guide you through the process.

 

 

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Posted 18 June 2016 - 08:19 PM

@ wizard.....I have not left windows behind completely as I still have some interaction in the win 10 forum....and on occasion I need to remind myself of what they are unnecessarily putting up with in that quagmire.....So I keep a copy of win 10 up to date in a VM.....I also run my "canned speech holder" in win 10.....the 'speech holder' or text editor which caused some procrastinating HERE ...and it contains quite a lot of links and tutorials etc etc...which I use in the win 10 area, and to a lesser extent in win 8.1 and 7 areas....

 

And that leads to another gsync type thingie....I also backup the win 10 install and everything that it contains...

 

rsync -avh -P -stats '/home/brian/VirtualBox VMs' /media/brian/backup/VirtualBox/

 

@ pcpunk....my son is still drumming the do's and dont's of writing a script into me......and the one "rule" which i constantly remind myself of is....where is it coming from...and where is it going to.

Keep that idea in the back of your mind at all times....and the rest will follow.

On the subject of your health, I had assumed that you were a young guy......in either case I really do hope that life and illness treats you better in the near future.

 

Edit to add : Grsync looks interesting....more reading material for me


Edited by Condobloke, 18 June 2016 - 09:06 PM.

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Posted 18 June 2016 - 08:59 PM

@pcpunk:

 

Hey punk, I just put on a 17.1 KDE I had kicking around in my "DistroIsos" folder (605 packages to update, lol) to duplicate your environment, and am just formatting a couple of recalcitrant USB sticks to backup one to the other.  ​You will love it! I hope, then I will have another comrade.  I don't think all that is needed just to use rsync Wiz but I appreciate it.  I see how to use it but all the different Commands are dizzying.  

 

Before I (or we, with Brian) reinvent the wheel have you found a solution at another forum, if so, what?  I just need to make sure I get the right command, please, don't reinvent the wheel.

 

Cheers

 

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I have this one saved from Al, and it is a little different than Condobloke's

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/594582/backing-up-linux/

 

This is definitely something I need to learn but have not found the documentation that suits me yet.


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Posted 18 June 2016 - 09:07 PM

sudo rsync -avh -P -stats

@Condobloke, would this one be good for my USB Transfer needs?  I looked it up but it is all nonsense to me lol.  I'll explore Backintime also but for now might just Copy Paste to get a Backup of what I have now.

 

As you can see in that Thread, Al was using this one:

rsync -av --delete

And, no slash at the end of the destination dir "/"  I thought when putting a "/" at the end of the destination it would create another directory ?

 

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Posted 18 June 2016 - 09:11 PM

Mate, the Toshiba Satellite has 298GB WD HDD is that still operational? I am wondering if there is merit in copying the USB stick/s in question to that HDD as a safeguard while you explore options?

 

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The Tosh now has a Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD in it with Windows 7 as the other HDD kinda died.  I just realized that I have an extra USB that I can Copy Paste to and then get me a good command learnt.  


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Posted 18 June 2016 - 09:16 PM

sudo rsync -avh -P -stats             Yes...this works.....followed by where it is from /media/brian/backup/linuxmint2016/....and where it is going to   /media/brian/backup2/linuxmint2016/

(I created a folder on the backup2 hdd called linuxmint2016, to send it to)

 

(if the questions get too hard....I will have to ask my son ! )

 

I have not read about GRsync yet....I undertsand it is the 'graphical interface" ....which basically makes the whole mess look pretty and more "windows like"....which is ultra cool for dummies like me....I then wonder if it simplifies the whole process of backing up...making scripts for us so the process is automated...???


Edited by Condobloke, 18 June 2016 - 09:20 PM.

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Posted 18 June 2016 - 09:42 PM

sudo rsync -avh -P -stats             Yes...this works.....followed by where it is from /media/brian/backup/linuxmint2016/....and where it is going to   /media/brian/backup2/linuxmint2016/

(I created a folder on the backup2 hdd called linuxmint2016, to send it to)  I see, but what about subsequent backups, won't this command then try to make another "dir" called linuxmint2016?

 

(if the questions get too hard....I will have to ask my son ! )  We'll this is just hilarious.  How old is he and what is his job description?

 

I have not read about GRsync yet....I undertsand it is the 'graphical interface" ....which basically makes the whole mess look pretty and more "windows like"....which is ultra cool for dummies like me....I then wonder if it simplifies the whole process of backing up...making scripts for us so the process is automated...???  Yes, exactly!

 

 

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Why does Text run outside the Post when you create a post sometimes?


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Posted 18 June 2016 - 11:36 PM

I see, but what about subsequent backups, won't this command then try to make another "dir" called linuxmint2016?...No...doesnt happen...all subsequent backups are tucked neatly inside 'linuxmint2016'

 

My son owns a transport company, and like his dad is just naturally brilliant.....

 

When time allows I will give grsync a good looking over

 

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Posted 19 June 2016 - 12:36 AM

OMG thought it was just me, lol

 

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