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#1 LiamP5

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 07:17 PM

I have got problem. When i plug 160gb seagate hdd ide master slave but after bios of esonic g41 motherboard is shows "Reboot and select boot insert media and press a key". In bios i have already make hdd first and dvd rom second but this doesn't work. What is the problem and solution? Can anyone tell me.
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Posted 13 May 2016 - 07:36 PM

 Either your hard drive has gone bad or you didn't connect it right.  If there's only one drive on the cable it should be set for master or the automatic determination (I forget what this option is called because I haven't fooled with an IDE drive in several years).

 

 Good luck.


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Posted 13 May 2016 - 07:40 PM

Wait, the HDD is in slave? I'm confused...
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Posted 13 May 2016 - 08:26 PM

ide master slave but after bios


People are confused because this has no meaning.

Is the drive master or slave? What does "but after bios" mean? Are you trying to plug in an IDE drive after the BIOS sign-on screen? You can't do that, it won't work.

Does the drive contain an Operating System or is it a blank drive?
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Posted 14 May 2016 - 10:26 AM

its ide master and it have windows 10 insider preview 64-bit. In setting of bios hard disk is shown but after bios it shows which mentioned above. Plz help me out.
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Posted 14 May 2016 - 11:44 AM

Please post a picture of your boot order settings.
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Posted 14 May 2016 - 11:31 PM

Was the Windows 10 Preview set up on that computer originally?
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Posted 15 May 2016 - 08:26 AM

Back in the dark ages (over 20 years ago), all of the connectors on an IDE cable were the same color and drives had to be jumpered as either master or slave.  On newer systems, the connectors are blue (for the system board), black (for the master), and gray (for the slave) with the drives jumpered as CS (Cable Select) because the black and gray connectors are actually different.  If you jumper a drive as master or slave and use a cable select cable, the PC gets confused about what is what.

Check and fix that as necessary.

On the other hand, if that drive came from a different PC, it probably won't boot anyway.  Is there some reason you still want to use the preview?


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Posted 15 May 2016 - 08:38 PM

If you jumper a drive as master or slave and use a cable select cable, the PC gets confused about what is what.


That shouldn't happen unless one of the devices on the cable is operating incorrectly. Otherwise you'd have to get a special non cable select cable if you wanted to manually choose the drive locations with M/S, as UDMA cables are cable select by default.
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Posted 15 May 2016 - 10:16 PM

http://www.mikeshardware.com/howtos/howto_connect_ide_hd.html

According to the article:

-- HD can be jumpered as as Master or Auto Select

-- CD-ROM, if on the same IDE cable, best if it can be jumpered as Slave

-- HD should be on end of IDE cable, with CD-ROM on the middle connector of IDE cable

I hope the above article applies to your particular HD/IDE situation.


Edited by RolandJS, 15 May 2016 - 10:19 PM.

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Posted 16 May 2016 - 12:20 AM

I don't place much confidence in that article, it says things that are questionable or simply wrong.
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Posted 16 May 2016 - 06:41 AM

Platypus,

If you jumper a drive (CD or HDD) as slave and then connect it to the master (black) connector of an 80 pin IDE cable, it, depending on the exact model of the device, will be confused by the contradicting positions it is being told to occupy.  It is most common with CD/DVD drives; but, I have seen hundreds of PC's where someone had added a second CD/DVD, religiously done their master slave jumpers on a cable select cable only to find one or both were flakey and the fix was to set both for CS.

Roland,

One of my data recovery PC's has the CD as the master and the booting hard disk as the slave so I could free up the SATA controllers for sick drives.  I did that because it was the only way to get the CS cable to fit neatly and have never had a problem.  I have never once seen a PC which had a problem booting from a slave device except when another boot drive was connected as the master and easily fixed that by removing the boot flag from the drive's partition table.

Short and simple, that article is wrong.

Here is a better listing of the UDMA pinout and what happens:

http://www.allpinouts.org/index.php/Ultra_ATA_66/100_IDE


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Posted 16 May 2016 - 05:41 PM

Geez does Win10 even support IDE?

 

See if the HDD boots with the ODD removed.  Sometimes ODDs got a bit wonky with IDE especially early controllers.

 

Also on your system is there one (primary) or two (secondary) IDE controllers?



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Posted 17 May 2016 - 10:07 AM

i want to know whether hdd is damaged or bios is wrong. If i wonder hdd is damaged then how it is shown in bios. My motherboard is http://m.made-in-china.com/product/Esonic-Mainboard-Motherboard-G41-CCL-669993545.html plz help because my hdd is new.
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Posted 17 May 2016 - 10:19 AM

It will help to know whether this is the same system as the drive was originally in when Win10 was installed or if it's the first time you have tried the drive on that board.
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