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Ubuntu 16.04/Mate 16.04 impressions so far.


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#1 66Batmobile

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Posted 11 May 2016 - 07:28 PM

Hello all,

 

Now that these have been out for a while (and I'm assuming there are a few here who have jumped into them), perhaps we could discuss likes, dislikes, bugs and other stuff?

 

After getting time to actually play with Mate, I really like it.  For the most part it seems to run pretty smooth, in some cases faster than when using regular 14.04 and Mint on this machine.  I know there are graphics issues for some machines, but the images on mine seem good/very sharp.  I also like how configurable it is out of the gate-haven't installed any extras other than BleachBit, some fonts, and the regular ubuntu xenial wallpapers to get that blue background I saw in a few other peoples screenshots. 

 

The only hiccups I've run into are probably just bugs.  There was one "system has crashed" message, but there didn't seem to be anything wrong.  While playing around with some of the settings, some of them wouldn't save over a reboot, and some icons in the Mate panel would appear and disappear.  Is this type of stuff typical on a first release?

 

The only real question I have is about the updates.  After I installed and updated the first time, running apt-get update seems to be looking for way less things than I'm used to seeing:

 

Hit:1 http:security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease

Hit:2  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease

Hit:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates InRelease

HIt:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease

HIt:5 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports InRelease

That's all that returns in terminal.  Anyone else seeing anything similar?

 

Overall, I'm enjoying it very much.  Looking forward to discussion. :thumbup2:


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Posted 11 May 2016 - 11:16 PM

Hello all,

 

The only hiccups I've run into are probably just bugs.  There was one "system has crashed" message, but there didn't seem to be anything wrong.  While playing around with some of the settings, some of them wouldn't save over a reboot, and some icons in the Mate panel would appear and disappear.  Is this type of stuff typical on a first release?

 

The only real question I have is about the updates.  After I installed and updated the first time, running apt-get update seems to be looking for way less things than I'm used to seeing:

 

Hit:1 http:security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease

Hit:2  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease

Hit:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates InRelease

HIt:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease

HIt:5 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports InRelease

That's all that returns in terminal.  Anyone else seeing anything similar?

 

Overall, I'm enjoying it very much.  Looking forward to discussion. :thumbup2:

No, I don't think you should be seeing hiccups like that?

 

To Update you do in Terminal, or just use the built in Update GUI:

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade

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Posted 12 May 2016 - 12:09 AM


Now that these have been out for a while (and I'm assuming there are a few here who have jumped into them), perhaps we could discuss likes, dislikes, bugs and other stuff?

 

I've setup VMs for Ubuntu 16.04 and Lubuntu 16.04. I've also downloaded the ISOs for Ubuntu Mate 16.04, Kubuntu 16.04, and Xubuntu 16.04, but haven't setup VMs for them. In Ubuntu I've had some graphics oddities, but nothing major. No issues with Lubuntu so far.

 


running apt-get update seems to be looking for way less things than I'm used to


That's all that returns in terminal.  Anyone else seeing anything similar?

 

Same. Nothing to worry about. I've not bothered to compare my 16.04 sources.list to a 14.04 sources.list, but that would shed some light on the differences.

 

example1@example:~$ sudo apt-get update
[sudo] password for example1:
Hit:1 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
Hit:2 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease       
Get:3 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates InRelease [94.5 kB]
Hit:4 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports InRelease
Get:5 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main amd64 Packages [76.3 kB]
Get:6 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main i386 Packages [73.8 kB]
Get:7 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main Translation-en [30.0 kB]
Get:8 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/universe amd64 Packages [23.0 kB]
Get:9 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/universe i386 Packages [23.1 kB]
Get:10 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/universe Translation-en [14.1 kB]
Fetched 335 kB in 2s (153 kB/s)                                   
Reading package lists... Done
example1@example:~$ clear



example1@example:~$ sudo apt-get update
Hit:1 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease                     
Hit:2 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-security InRelease              
Hit:3 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates InRelease      
Hit:4 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-backports InRelease
Reading package lists... Done                      
example1@example:~$


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Posted 12 May 2016 - 09:43 AM

Hello all,

 

After I installed and updated the first time 

Shouldn't 66 be including the Upgrade also for the first run? and not just Update?


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Posted 12 May 2016 - 10:58 AM

 

Shouldn't 66 be including the Upgrade also for the first run? and not just Update?

Sorry, that's what I meant.  Immediately after install, I ran sudo apt-get update in terminal and then used the software updater to do the first upgrades.  Then ran the update command in terminal again just to see what happened, and saw the shorter list.  I have all the defaults checked for "software and updates", plus the Canonical partners ones.  Upon review I'm wondering if it's because there's only one codec (open h264 plugin) showing in Firefox?  I also haven't installed Gnome Software or Ubuntu Software Center yet, just trying the default "Software Boutique."  Maybe that has something to do with it. 

 

As far as the icons and settings thing, I think I got it wrong on them not saving during reboot.  In Mate you can select different interfaces (Menu bars/panels) using Mate Tweak.  What I was seeing is I would change the clock from 24hr to 12hr time (for example) and then try a different interface and the clock would revert to 24hr.  Since I stopped playing with the interfaces I'm not seeing this as of now.


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Posted 12 May 2016 - 02:10 PM

I was using Ubuntu 16.04 in Alpha and Beta previews and all was good, no problems at all. Since I downloaded Ubuntu 16.04 the final version after April 21st and did a clean install, nothing but problems. It crashes regularly. I quit using it until they get the bugs ironed out. I loved the beta preview version, but the final release is way too buggy.


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Posted 12 May 2016 - 04:50 PM

Ubuntu 16.04.1 comes out July 21st. Maybe by then some of the issues will be fixed.



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Posted 12 May 2016 - 05:30 PM

Thanks, I'm looking forward to it.


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Posted 22 May 2016 - 02:16 PM

@66Batmobile, had the same issue with updates. Sorted out disabling the xenial-backports repository. A few days later I re-enabled the repo and no more issues.

 

In Ubuntu Gnome, some other minor issues adding new autostart entries through Startup Applications. Had to manually change the autostart folder permissions.

 

About Gnome Software:

does not show all available applications/command-line tools

sometimes has a weird behavior: after installing a program the button switches to Remove, as expected, then switches back to Install.

at the end, have to rely on Terminal or Synaptic.

 

Also got the "system has crashed" message 4 or 5 times.

And from time to time, non-system drives disappearing from the file manager sidebar (something experienced with previous versions of Ubuntu).

 

About the installer, I had lots of problems to create custom LVM encrypted partitions. Tried with Kvpm (KDE Volume and Partition Manager), and even from the command-line, sometimes the installer crashed at installing grub, others got stuck at initramfs screen on first boot. Probably my fault.

Wasted a couple of hours trying it multiple times until I decided to use the netinstall ISO, which was lot easier for that kind of setup.


Edited by nuna, 22 May 2016 - 02:18 PM.


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Posted 22 May 2016 - 08:39 PM

@nuna

 

Thanks for the tip!  Still playing around with things, so I'll see what happens.


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