1st. thank each & all of u for the help. I think I'm going to Like this forum. I was successful in downloading Avast. In fact I was too successful. After several attempts, I was giving up only to learn that I had downloaded it 4 times!!!.... Well I did manage to get the other 3 off (I hope). I've been slow to update u'all because 1) my spouse had major back surgery last wk. 2) my mother- in- law, who lives with us needs daily assistance. 3) My brother-in-law, also living with us has alzhimer & doesn't know up from down. I'm now something between a nurse, cook, watchman. the strangest thing is that I'm still moderately sane So I'll get back to when I can. there is so much more I need to learn. Again I do appreciate the help.