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Windows Vista Update Hangs at "Checking For Updates"


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#31 devilus

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 03:17 AM

Only Windows Update Agent. And since then, the 15 hours it takes "Checking for updates ..."

Didn't you stop the service?


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Posted 24 May 2016 - 03:38 AM

Ok. I think I discovered what the problem is. Before attempting to install KB3145739 and KB3153199, I checked in the Device Manager that all components have the drivers - I noticed that it was missing the PCI driver. So I installed the Intel Robson Package (Intel Turbo Memory and the Intel Matrix Storage Manager). This driver is completely destabilized the WU. After his uninstalling I could install the patch that you chose. Now it installs, and soon I write if it helped with my main problem.

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 04:14 AM

I just want to add a great article for everyone. It's my favorite one and updated:

 

http://wu.krelay.de/en/


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#34 Intelektualista

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 05:08 AM

Still nothing. Still "Checking for updates ...". I read an article by which that link and I thought that maybe I should install yet:
KB3078601
KB3087039
KB3109094
What do You think about it?

Besides, I wonder how well install the patch manually, because in this article it says to:
"Download the updates mentioned above and install them via WUSA on a CMD shell (as Administrator)"
I installed them through the normal double-click.


Edited by Intelektualista, 24 May 2016 - 05:12 AM.


#35 devilus

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 05:25 AM

Still nothing. Still "Checking for updates ...". I read an article by which that link and I thought that maybe I should install yet:
KB3078601
KB3087039
KB3109094
What do You think about it?

Besides, I wonder how well install the patch manually, because in this article it says to:
"Download the updates mentioned above and install them via WUSA on a CMD shell (as Administrator)"
I installed them through the normal double-click.

Maybe it was my fault, sorry. I thought they are already installed. Yes please, install the other ones as well. But I would suggest you first to uninstall two patches you just installed. Just to be sure. And install them beginning from the oldest one. (Don't forget to stop WU service before doing anything.)

I too installed my patches manually. Had no problem.

 

EDIT: Wait a little more. It's your first time with checking for updates. It may need time.


Edited by devilus, 24 May 2016 - 05:32 AM.

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Posted 24 May 2016 - 05:49 AM

Master, You were right! It worked ! Respect for You! I have over 200 updates to download - indeed enough to wait.

In summary to unlock the bug "searching for updates forever" in Vista SP2 are required only KB3145739 and KB3153199.

Thank you Devilus! You have restored my faith in Windows Vista :thumbup2:



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Posted 24 May 2016 - 05:55 AM

You're welcome. I'm glad that you solved the problem. :thumbup2:


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Posted 26 May 2016 - 11:52 AM

I'm sorry to  post this here, but I don't know where would be proper.

 

I just received an email identical to others I had previously received from bleeping computer informing me that a new response had been posted here.  In the area of a posted response there were two clickable URLs.  They suggested addresses for free "Angry Birds" and another title.  I immediately came to this website and seeing  no new posts, deleted the email with the suspicious URLs.  Evidently a third party has acquired email  addresses!



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Posted 26 May 2016 - 12:05 PM

I'm sorry to  post this here, but I don't know where would be proper.

 

I just received an email identical to others I had previously received from bleeping computer informing me that a new response had been posted here.  In the area of a posted response there were two clickable URLs.  They suggested addresses for free "Angry Birds" and another title.  I immediately came to this website and seeing  no new posts, deleted the email with the suspicious URLs.  Evidently a third party has acquired email  addresses!

I got it as well. Maybe the post is deleted by moderators. I'm not sure.

 

UPDATE: I deleted it from inbox. But still get the same message.


Edited by devilus, 26 May 2016 - 12:10 PM.

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Posted 26 May 2016 - 05:22 PM

I don't suppose either of you thought to drop a Mod a PM about this, did you ?  I am about to kick this upstairs but if you get any more such e-mails can you hang onto them for a day or two - by all means put them somewhere safe - just in case one of the Admins or Grinler want to see them.

 

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There was a now ex-member doing this. Posts were deleted and he has been banned.


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Posted 26 May 2016 - 05:50 PM

There is nothing nefarious about the email you received. You subscribe to the topic, you get an email when there is reply which in your case was a SPAM post.

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Posted 11 June 2016 - 11:56 AM

One thing. There is a hotfix on Microsoft that helps with the high CPU usage when running Windows Update. I have it installed and from 25% (1/4 Cores), the usage dropped to maximum 5%. That might not be your case if tou use an Intel Core 2 Duo. But if tou use something more powerful than an Athlon ll x4 750K, then it'll be lower than 5%. The hotfix is called "Memory Leak in Windows Update for Windows Vista SP2 and Windows Server 2008".

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Posted 11 June 2016 - 01:56 PM

The hotfix is called "Memory Leak in Windows Update for Windows Vista SP2 and Windows Server 2008".

 

Hi antoniu200:

 

Can you provide a link or KB number for this hotfix?  The only hotfix I could find with a similar title was KB2743187 ("Memory leak occurs in the Svchost.exe process on a computer that is running Windows Vista or Windows Server 2008") that was released on 09-Aug-2012.

 

I checked the C:\Windows\System32\nsisvc.dll file mentioned in that KB2743187 and confirmed that I still have v6.0.6001.18000, which is older than the v6.0.6002.22911 installed by this hotfix. If that's the hotfix you're referring to, though, I'm not sure it would solve my current problem.

 

Process Explorer shows that the 50% CPU consumption during the "Checking for updates.." phase of Windows Updates I've had since August 2015 is caused by the Windows Update service (wuauserv) - and specifically by a thread for the Windows Update Agent (wuaueng.dll) running under the generic svchost.exe process  - see my screenshot in Kayla77's VistaForums thread Processes in Task Manager during updates.  In my case, my high CPU consumption doesn't appear to have anything to do with with a memory leak in the Network Storage Interface (NSI) service (nsisvc.dll). Instead, the 50% CPU consumed by the Windows Update Agent is constant and remains at 50% (complete saturation of one of my dual cores) for several hours before "Checking for updates..." finally reports that updates are available for download.

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Edited by lmacri, 11 June 2016 - 06:25 PM.


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Posted 11 June 2016 - 02:48 PM

Yea that's the one.

Edited by antoniu200, 11 June 2016 - 03:50 PM.


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Posted 11 June 2016 - 06:10 PM

Hi antoniu200:

 

The June 2016 Patch Tuesday updates will be released next Tuesday on 14-Jun-2016.  Could you please post back after that date and let us know how long "Checking for updates..." ran during your Patch Tuesday updates and how many updates were installed?  Most users only see "Checking for updates..." hang when a large number of updates are available for download (i.e., Windows Update runs normally if it only finds one available update as shown in post # 90 of ScousaJay's VistaForums thread windows update just seems to hang while checking) so you might not know if KB2743187 actually fixed your problem until you run your next batch of Patch Tuesday updates.

 

I'm hesitant to install this 5-year-old KB2743187 hotfix that is supposed to fix a memory leak for the Network Storage Interface (NSI) service (nsisvc.dll).  A memory leak would suggest that users affected by this problem would see nsisvc.dll loading into memory (i.e., consuming RAM) but not unloading and freeing up memory once it was no longer needed.  That doesn't describe the problem I see where the Windows Update Agent wuaueng.dll (running under the svchost.exe process) saturates an entire CPU core for several hours during my "Checking for updates..." hangs.

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Edited by lmacri, 11 June 2016 - 06:26 PM.





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