Jump to content


 


Register a free account to unlock additional features at BleepingComputer.com
Welcome to BleepingComputer, a free community where people like yourself come together to discuss and learn how to use their computers. Using the site is easy and fun. As a guest, you can browse and view the various discussions in the forums, but can not create a new topic or reply to an existing one unless you are logged in. Other benefits of registering an account are subscribing to topics and forums, creating a blog, and having no ads shown anywhere on the site.


Click here to Register a free account now! or read our Welcome Guide to learn how to use this site.

Photo

Linux Convert


  • Please log in to reply
38 replies to this topic

#1 OptimusSemi-Prime

OptimusSemi-Prime

  • Members
  • 57 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:Oklahoma
  • Local time:05:15 PM

Posted 09 April 2016 - 05:43 AM

After my last frustrated hour making windows work and getting my last stupid boot error and anxiety over malware, i decided to give linux a try. i am piping in linux mint cinnamon 64 right now, i noticed ubuntu is popular also. is it ready to go or is there quite a few add-ons for particular devices?

 

my computer is  a core 2 quad with 4gb ddr2 and an awesome gigabyte board with a msi gt 610 for video.

 

i just want the computer to be able to get online with a wireless adapter and browse/stream/htpc.

 

thanks everyone



BC AdBot (Login to Remove)

 


#2 wizardfromoz

wizardfromoz

  • Banned
  • 2,799 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Local time:08:15 AM

Posted 09 April 2016 - 07:36 AM

 

...sometimes i wonder if some of the membership here gets so good at keeping their systems maintained that there are still some pentium III computers with windows 95 or LINUX still operational on their desktops.

 

Hi OptimusSemi-Prime and :welcome: to the Linux crowd.

 

6GB RAM and 200GB WD HDD sounds like a fine point to install Linux and you can run any flavour of it with that - and no you don't have to be a hardware specialist. I have 2 Linux OSes running on my wife's laptop which has 512MB RAM and an 80GB HDD, and it is easy peasy after a bit of practice.

 

 

is it ready to go or is there quite a few add-ons for particular devices?

 

Yes and maybe/maybe not, narrow down the devices a little - printers, scanners, wifi &c?

 

I'm in OZ and it's my bedtime, but I'll be back sooner rather than later, else one of the gang will likely make an appearance in between.

 

I have LM 17.3 Cinnamon as one of my Distros, so can help hands on so to speak, if needed.

 

Cheers

 

:wizardball: Wizard



#3 pcpunk

pcpunk

  • Members
  • 5,992 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Florida
  • Local time:06:15 PM

Posted 09 April 2016 - 12:16 PM

After my last frustrated hour making windows work and getting my last stupid boot error and anxiety over malware, i decided to give linux a try. i am piping in linux mint cinnamon 64 right now, i noticed ubuntu is popular also. is it ready to go or is there quite a few add-ons for particular devices?

 

my computer is  a core 2 quad with 4gb ddr2 and an awesome gigabyte board with a msi gt 610 for video.

 

i just want the computer to be able to get online with a wireless adapter and browse/stream/htpc.

 

thanks everyone

Glad to see you over on the "Light Side", yes I just coined Linux as the Light Side, because I view M.S. as a bit of the dark side lol, just kidding.  

 

Do you know you can run these in a Live Session once you have created your LiveLinuxMedium? DVD or USB.  Please use a DVD as a CD is to small.  You can use - or + R or RW.  This will be the same medium you will install with.  This way you can try Ubuntu and Mint and see which one you like best.

You can use this tool for the USB: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/

 

Or with DVD: Right Click on the Linux iso file that you downloaded, and choose your favorite inbuilt DVD Creator > and Select "Burn Image" if possible.  Also check "Verify" if possible.  You are not Copying Files, you are "Burning an Image".

 

What operating system will you be doing this from? that is if you need help in creating the LiveMedium.

 

If you have not installed yet you might get a little advice before you start.  Seems as though you are a computer savvy, so you will benefit from a simple Partition Scheme to make your experience better.  If you already Installed then we can still make things a little better with what you have.

 

So, are you keeping M.S. on the pc -DualBoot - or wiping in favor of 100% Linux?

 

Maybe you will tell the guys here if it is a UEFI Secure-boot enabled machine or not, that will help with the install.  Also, Nvidia cards sometimes require a little knowledge to get up and going but many will run OOTB. 

 

Good luck, post back with any questions


Edited by raw, 09 April 2016 - 04:16 PM.
Off topic

sBCcBvM.png

Created by Mike_Walsh

 

KDE, Ruler of all Distro's

eps2.4_m4ster-s1ave.aes_pcpunk_leavemehere

 


#4 MadmanRB

MadmanRB

    Spoon!!!!


  • Members
  • 3,161 posts
  • ONLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:No time for that when there is evil afoot!
  • Local time:06:15 PM

Posted 09 April 2016 - 03:08 PM

Most things windows can do linux can too. Tell us about your wireless adapter though as sometimes that can be funny, no fault of linux as its normally low in device developers list of priorites


You know you want me baby!

Proud Linux user and dual booter.

Proud Vivaldi user.

 

ljxaqg-6.png


#5 OptimusSemi-Prime

OptimusSemi-Prime
  • Topic Starter

  • Members
  • 57 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:Oklahoma
  • Local time:05:15 PM

Posted 09 April 2016 - 07:47 PM

ok, mint downloaded and i tried to use the dvd as a boot in the BIOS with the hard drive disconnected, and i got the boot error non-system disk song and dance, . is an iso readily interpreted off the ODD or does it have to be un rar'd?

 

 i read that puppy is totally independent of any hdd and just runs off the odd/usb.  is puppy a good place to start?


Edited by OptimusSemi-Prime, 09 April 2016 - 07:56 PM.


#6 wizardfromoz

wizardfromoz

  • Banned
  • 2,799 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Local time:08:15 AM

Posted 09 April 2016 - 09:55 PM

pcpunk asked above:

 

 

So, are you keeping M.S. on the pc -DualBoot - or wiping in favor of 100% Linux?

 

Maybe you will tell the guys here if it is a UEFI Secure-boot enabled machine or not, that will help with the install.  Also, Nvidia cards sometimes require a little knowledge to get up and going but many will run OOTB

 

Can you let us know a bit more about that, in particular which version of Windows, if keeping?

 

 

is an iso readily interpreted off the ODD or does it have to be un rar'd?

 

It has to be burned to the disk, during which process it will expand to a number of folders and files, and at the same time makes the disk bootable, if your BIOS system allows.

 

May I ask why you had the hard drive disconnected?

 

:wizardball: Wizard



#7 pcpunk

pcpunk

  • Members
  • 5,992 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Florida
  • Local time:06:15 PM

Posted 09 April 2016 - 10:05 PM

What OS are you using to create the disk, along with the Software to do so.  And, did you read my suggestions about "Burn Image" to disk?  Sounds like you are missing boot-files.

 

 

 is an iso readily interpreted off the ODD or does it have to be un rar'd?

It just needs to burned correctly.

 

 

 

 is puppy a good place to start?

I think not, others might disagree but lets start with the simple stuff first.  It's not hard to do this once you get the idea and Terminology down.


sBCcBvM.png

Created by Mike_Walsh

 

KDE, Ruler of all Distro's

eps2.4_m4ster-s1ave.aes_pcpunk_leavemehere

 


#8 raw

raw

    Bleeping Hacker


  • Members
  • 2,577 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Texas
  • Local time:05:15 PM

Posted 10 April 2016 - 01:16 AM

is an iso readily interpreted off the ODD or does it have to be un rar'd?

 

 i read that puppy is totally independent of any hdd and just runs off the odd/usb.  is puppy a good place to start?

 

Yes, it has to be unrar'd and you should have a ISO file. <puppylinux.iso> for example

Yes, Puppy Linux is a very small download and very simple system to use. 

http://puppylinux.org/main/Overview%20and%20Getting%20Started.htm

If you are using a 64 bit PC i suggest you look at Fatdog: http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/ 

which is a fancy version of Puppy Linux, but optimized for 64bit.

 

As pcpunk pointed out UUI (universal usb installer) is the easiest way to get Linux on your USB device.

For creating a bootable disk from an ISO image i use and recommend ImgBurm: http://www.imgburn.com/

 

How to write an image file to disk using imgburn:

http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=61

 

Hope that helps


rawsig.png

 rawcreations.net          @raw_creations


Current systems: WHAT OS, BackTrack-raw, PCLinuxOS, Peppermint OS 6, Kali Linux

and a custom Linux From Scratch server hosting a bunch of top secret stuff.


#9 NickAu

NickAu

    Bleepin' Fish Doctor


  • Moderator
  • 13,385 posts
  • ONLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:127.0.0.1 Australia
  • Local time:08:15 AM

Posted 10 April 2016 - 03:42 AM

OptimusSemi-Prime,  :welcome: to the Linux section

 

How to burn ISO image using Windows Burn Disk Image.
 
Notice:  This applies only to Windows 7 and Windows 8, earlier versions do not have this.
 
1.  Place a blank CD or DVD in the tray of your optical drive and close the tray.
 
2.  After you have downloaded the ISO image you want to burn right click on the Start orb, then choose Windows Explorer.
 
3.  When Explorer opens click on Downloads in the left pane.  Scroll down till you find the ISO file you want and double click on it.  Click on Burn Disk Image.
 
4.  In the image below you will see Disk burner:, this should be set to the optical drive you want to use.  Click on Verify disc after burning if you want to Windows to verity the disc image after burn.  Click on burn.
 
burndiskimage1_zpsb502b181.png
 
5.  In the image below you can see that the green progress bar, when the image is finished burning the bar will be filled.
 
burndiskimage2_zps17a9d6ff.png
 
6.  After the image has completed being burned click on Close.


Edited by NickAu, 10 April 2016 - 03:58 AM.


#10 cat1092

cat1092

    Bleeping Cat


  • BC Advisor
  • 7,018 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:North Carolina, USA
  • Local time:06:15 PM

Posted 10 April 2016 - 03:55 AM

 

If you are using a 64 bit PC i suggest you look at Fatdog: http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/ 

which is a fancy version of Puppy Linux, but optimized for 64bit.

 

+1! :thumbup2:

 

FatDog64 runs like fired from a rocket launcher, even on the mentioned hardware. Some of the Core 2 Quads are great, and 4GB DDR2 is plenty for a Linux install, as well as the graphics card. :)

 

pcpunk provided my favorite app to use to create a bootable Linux Mint installer, if no USB stick is available, a 2GiB or larger SDHC card on a USB card reader does the same. Much faster than using DVD's, and in the long run, a lot of saved cash. That single 2GiB SDHC card, or 4GiB USB stick or larger, will outlast 10 or more of the 100 count sleeves, longer if these are gone through fast.

 

OptimusSemi-Prime,  :welcome: to our Linux Community of Bleeping Computer Forums! :)

 

We're happy to have you here & hopefully can answer most any question you have. Speaking of which, there's no such thing as a 'dumb' question here, we all began where you are at this very moment & had many of the same questions ourselves. So please don't pull your hair out over something that may can be dealt with in minutes. :)

 

Nick also provided a easy way to burn ISO's from within Windows 7 or higher, the cool thing being, no extra software needed, it's included with the OS. While I place a check in the 'Verify disc after burning', this is optional & not a requirement. 

 

Good Luck with Linux Mint Cinnamon, if that doesn't work, I suggest the MATE edition instead. :)

 

Have Fun with Linux ! :thumbup2:

 

Cat


Performing full disc images weekly and keeping important data off of the 'C' drive as generated can be the best defence against Malware/Ransomware attacks, as well as a wide range of other issues. 


#11 pcpunk

pcpunk

  • Members
  • 5,992 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Florida
  • Local time:06:15 PM

Posted 10 April 2016 - 10:20 AM

 i read that puppy is totally independent of any hdd and just runs off the odd/usb.  is puppy a good place to start?

 

Again, IMO...you should concentrate on getting a Full Linux OS on there.  You will love Cinnamon!  It's the same process to get Puppy up and running anyhow so you might as well get you a Full Distro on the HDD first. You can play around with Puppy anytime you want from any pc, without touching the HDD.   You will need to learn how to burn an iso to a DVD, (or CD in the case of Puppy) or use an installer to put it on a USB.


sBCcBvM.png

Created by Mike_Walsh

 

KDE, Ruler of all Distro's

eps2.4_m4ster-s1ave.aes_pcpunk_leavemehere

 


#12 OptimusSemi-Prime

OptimusSemi-Prime
  • Topic Starter

  • Members
  • 57 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:Oklahoma
  • Local time:05:15 PM

Posted 10 April 2016 - 09:25 PM

as luck would have it, i found an old xp boot hdd that was a retail version. the q8200 is up and running now, i found an old gtx 295 to put in it, and an evga 600 watt. the motherboard is a  gigabyte g31m-s2l. i guess that means it is a 64 bit capable.

 

   i don't have a clean usb stick to use right now, but i do have some blank cd s and dvd s.  i will most likely get started with a puppy CD just to get a boot going, as i want to run it independent of any hard drive.   much gratitude for the guidance offered and when i have more time i will act on the  the advice more thoroughly. it is nice to see a MS bypass being mainstream like this.



#13 Condobloke

Condobloke

    Outback Aussie @ 54.2101 N, 0.2906 W


  • Members
  • 6,036 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Local time:08:15 AM

Posted 10 April 2016 - 10:03 PM

I have recently downloaded Peppermint 6  (HERE

 

It can be run on a 'test' basis.....so you do not have to Install it.

 

it looks good...very similar to windows os in the manner that you approach it...

 

It comes with a chrome browser....so you need to use that to download a different browser if that is what you want (i have downloaded firefox), and any other program you may need will also need to be downloaded (depending on what you use the pc for )

It takes a little bit of figuring out just how to enter a command into "terminal" (which is a bit like a command prompt window)....so that a program is downloaded and installed etc etc

This Page was the one I followed in order to install firefox. I simply copied and pasted the 'commands' there (excluding the $ signs), and it worked like a charm.

 

The really nice thing about running any linux thingie in test mode is.....if you make a heart stopping blunder.....just reboot and start again !!

 

Anyway...have fun !...its a challenge.


Condobloke ...Outback Australian  fed up with Windows antics...??....LINUX IS THE ANSWER....I USE LINUX MINT 18.3  EXCLUSIVELY.

“A man travels the world in search of what he needs and returns home to find it."

It has been said that time heals all wounds. I don't agree. The wounds remain. Time - the mind, protecting its sanity - covers them with some scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone. Rose Kennedy

 GcnI1aH.jpg

 

 


#14 NickAu

NickAu

    Bleepin' Fish Doctor


  • Moderator
  • 13,385 posts
  • ONLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:127.0.0.1 Australia
  • Local time:08:15 AM

Posted 10 April 2016 - 10:07 PM

 

It comes with a chrome browser....so you need to use that to download a different browser

In most cases you would use software manager or apt-get, This also ensures you get the right version.



#15 Condobloke

Condobloke

    Outback Aussie @ 54.2101 N, 0.2906 W


  • Members
  • 6,036 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Local time:08:15 AM

Posted 10 April 2016 - 10:38 PM

In most cases you would use software manager or apt-get, This also ensures you get the right version.

 

 

 

.....and it is that sort of information that is crucial to a recent 'Linux Convert'......

 

Coming straight from windows, where of course the tried and trusted method of obtaining new program is simply to download and install it via a browser (usually IE or Chrome or Firefox ).....to a 'new' system (linux) where the method is completely different....is quite a challenge.

 

......even more challenging is finding a short concise tutorial on how to approach your new os re installing new programs, or finding programs within the os that are actually already downloaded but perhaps need updating or 'bringing into use'.....also simple stuff such as pinning a program to the taskbar (if it is even possible), changing the screen resolution so it doesn't look like you are running an outdated version win xp......

 

The 'challenges' are many and various

 

The vast majority of linux users to date have had the inner fortitude to read and read and read....and experiment ad nauseum......in order to get their linux os to do what they want it to do...

 

In today's atmosphere of Windows 10  "ticking off" a great number of people, it would serve linux well if a "fast track" to a working os were provided ....dispensing with the hours and hours of tedious boredom associated with becoming at ease with the unnecessarily complex minefield that is "linux"


Condobloke ...Outback Australian  fed up with Windows antics...??....LINUX IS THE ANSWER....I USE LINUX MINT 18.3  EXCLUSIVELY.

“A man travels the world in search of what he needs and returns home to find it."

It has been said that time heals all wounds. I don't agree. The wounds remain. Time - the mind, protecting its sanity - covers them with some scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone. Rose Kennedy

 GcnI1aH.jpg

 

 





0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users