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#1 Karzahni

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Posted 04 April 2016 - 07:17 AM

This is in the Win7 forum because Win7 will be the main OS.

 

I want to quadruple-boot Windows 98 SE, Windows XP, Windows 7 and Windows 10 (different games like different OSes)

 

To simplify this, I was planning to use GAG to manage them all, unless someone can suggest a better bootloader. The OSes will be installed on either of my 2 drives. (7, XP and 10 on the SSD; 98 on the HDD) Windows XP requires MBR, so I will be going with this for all drives. Windows 98 requires hyper-threading to be off and IDE emulation. Should I need to switch these on or off each time I go from Win98 and back again?

 

I have 7 now, and I was planning to install 98, (referring to this guide http://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=41065 ) then GAG, then XP, then 10. Is there anything I should be aware of first?

 

Note: If Win7 is installed with GPT, I will need to reinstall 7 as well, and so I may not start doing this for a while. If it is however MBR already then I can go ahead right away.


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Posted 04 April 2016 - 12:00 PM

Every multiboot situation that I've seen involving different versions of Windows...goes smoothly if the oldest version is installed first, with all others installed in date-order.

 

I know nothing about GAG, so I will move this to Internal Hardware, where someone will know more than I can contribute :).

 

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Posted 04 April 2016 - 05:28 PM

Every multiboot situation that I've seen involving different versions of Windows...goes smoothly if the oldest version is installed first, with all others installed in date-order.

 

I know nothing about GAG, so I will move this to Internal Hardware, where someone will know more than I can contribute :).

 

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Okay, thanks.

 

I just checked, and my drives are both MBR. That will save a lot of bother.


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Posted 04 April 2016 - 08:15 PM

I normally use grub...but another thing you may consider instead of quad boot is running them inside a virtual box?

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Posted 05 April 2016 - 07:27 AM

I normally use grub...but another thing you may consider instead of quad boot is running them inside a virtual box?

 

I thought it would be cool...

 

But 10 will definitely need to be on physical hardware for Forza 6 Apex. XP isn't really necessary (for Fallout 3), but I thought I'd do it anyway. 98 could be run on a VM if I wanted. So I could just dual-boot 7 and 10.

 

But if this is possible without unreasonable effort, then I'm happy to go ahead and give myself a project. I'll try out installing Win98 in a VM first, using that guide I mentioned, just to be sure I know what I'm doing when I come to install it on physical hardware.


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Posted 05 April 2016 - 08:51 AM

I was just curious, if you want a quadruble boot it really shouldn't be difficult, I've done it before using mostly Linux distro, I don't imagine it would be any different with Windows.

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Posted 05 April 2016 - 07:48 PM

I was just curious, if you want a quadruble boot it really shouldn't be difficult, I've done it before using mostly Linux distro, I don't imagine it would be any different with Windows.

 

Oh okay, I was just expecting people to question the idea. I often try to setup some crazy stuff like this. At the moment I'm trying to get 4 disk drives working in my PC. 2 are on an IDE PCI card, but I can only get one of the IDE drives working at a time. I'm about to make a thread about it.

 

I'm trying to follow the guide for Win98 on modern hardware, but using a VM. For some reason it won't boot from the 98 CD. I'll try booting it on my host to see if I will be having the same problem or if it's just VMware.


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Posted 05 April 2016 - 09:20 PM

it probably has driver issues, windows 98 is seeing hardware that it doesnt recognize. 

 

As far as your IDE card, what specific one are you using?


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Posted 06 April 2016 - 12:45 AM

it probably has driver issues, windows 98 is seeing hardware that it doesnt recognize. 

 

As far as your IDE card, what specific one are you using?

 

Oh I sorted it out. 

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/610305/only-one-drive-will-function-at-a-time-on-my-ide-controller-card/

It all works now.

 

Can you actually boot from a retail disk? If not I might need to get a USB floppy drive and run the installer from a startup disk.


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Posted 06 April 2016 - 11:28 PM

as long as its an .ISO it shoud boot just fine, so yes, I imagine it should.


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Posted 07 April 2016 - 10:16 PM

as long as its an .ISO it shoud boot just fine, so yes, I imagine it should.

 

From what I've read, SE's retail and OEM disks are bootable. For some reason my retail one isn't, but I have an OEM one that is, so I'll use that.


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