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#1 compostery

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Posted 01 April 2016 - 08:38 PM

Heres the scenario, have a pc with xp Home 32 bit and sp1 installed, ok it needs sp3 installed. Does this have to be installed as a offline install, or can it be done somehow through any sort of update?

 

Also what about any updates that would be missing, up until Micro$oft stopped supporting XP. Can they be got through the normal XP update service??

 

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Posted 01 April 2016 - 08:54 PM

On April 8, 2014, Microsoft retired technical support for Windows XP, including security updates that help protect your PC. (this is from Microsofts official page....therefore you will find nothing on windows download or updates at all )....

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-au/windows/end-support-help

 

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 12:52 PM

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If you do the update through Windows Update, you will generally be served a more compact version of the SP3 update.

 

If you are unable to do this, you can get the full SP3 update from the Internet Archive aka Wayback Machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20140119014510/http://download.microsoft.com/download/d/3/0/d30e32d8-418a-469d-b600-f32ce3edf42d/WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe

 

Other updates through the end of support are still available through Windows Update. No new updates are being released.


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Posted 02 April 2016 - 03:03 PM

Not exactly true :).

 

I just looked at my update history for XP on this system...and it seems that MS has thrown a couple of updates related to MS.NET in addition to the Malicious Software Tool updates (which occur monthly).

 

Any stated above...XP critical updates previously released but which have not been installed yet...should be available via Windows Update.

 

I also noted this morning that MS seems to have pulled all direct downloads of SP3.  I suppose that is still available via Windows Update (if not installed yet).  There are a large number of critical updates which came after SP3 and before XP termination...I assume that Windows Update will also still provide these.

 

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 04:31 PM

Not exactly true :).

 

I just looked at my update history for XP on this system...and it seems that MS has thrown a couple of updates related to MS.NET in addition to the Malicious Software Tool updates (which occur monthly).

 

Any stated above...XP critical updates previously released but which have not been installed yet...should be available via Windows Update.

 

I also noted this morning that MS seems to have pulled all direct downloads of SP3.  I suppose that is still available via Windows Update (if not installed yet).  There are a large number of critical updates which came after SP3 and before XP termination...I assume that Windows Update will also still provide these.

 

Louis

 

Hi Louis,

Yes, there are SOME updates being released to XP systems, but they are not specific to XP. The key is that the items you are receiving updates for are still supported by Microsoft even though XP itself is not.

 

For example, Silverlight 5 still receives updates on XP, but this is because XP is not the only OS which Silverlight was released for.


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Other examples include Office 2007 and Office 2010; these are programs that run on XP yet they are independently supported by Microsoft for their respective product cycles.

 

As I stated in my post, yes, Microsoft pulled the SP's and other download links related to XP, this is why I provided the archived link:

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20140119014510/http://download.microsoft.com/download/d/3/0/d30e32d8-418a-469d-b600-f32ce3edf42d/WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe


Edited by sdfox 7, 02 April 2016 - 04:32 PM.

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 06:34 PM

I think that you may be right,,.and wrong :).

 

Microsoft Update...will handle all the MS apps and I go to Microsoft Update...but I never download anything but critical updates.  Critical updates are not restricted in applicability to just XP, MS has long issued critical updates that apply to multiple versions of Windows.

 

MS.NET is a Windows component, it is not a separate application such as Silverlight, Office, etc.  It's part of the O/S and a critical update for MS.NET is categorically a critical update for the O/S.  Same for IE.

 

The point is...critical updates, regardless of what versions they apply to...are occasionally released for XP users.  Something other than the Malicious Software Tool has been released as a critical update for XP users, during the last 2 years...several times.  I don't know if this will continue but it has happened.

 

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 07:43 PM

I think that you may be right,,.and wrong :).

 

Microsoft Update...will handle all the MS apps and I go to Microsoft Update...but I never download anything but critical updates.  Critical updates are not restricted in applicability to just XP, MS has long issued critical updates that apply to multiple versions of Windows.

 

MS.NET is a Windows component, it is not a separate application such as Silverlight, Office, etc.  It's part of the O/S and a critical update for MS.NET is categorically a critical update for the O/S.  Same for IE.

 

The point is...critical updates, regardless of what versions they apply to...are occasionally released for XP users.  Something other than the Malicious Software Tool has been released as a critical update for XP users, during the last 2 years...several times.  I don't know if this will continue but it has happened.

 

Louis

 

Louis

 

When I do a web search for MS.NET all it brings up is results for the .NET Framework. This is a downloadable standalone application for Windows XP and later Windows versions. Could that be why you are receiving updates?

 

Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 1 (x86): https://web.archive.org/web/20120501115140/http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=16614

 

Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Service Pack 1: https://web.archive.org/web/20120507051403/http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=3005

 

Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5: https://web.archive.org/web/20120427120239/http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=21

 

Microsoft .NET Framework 4 (Standalone Installer): https://web.archive.org/web/20120428021643/http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=17718


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Posted 02 April 2016 - 11:33 PM

Hello and thank you gentlemen, I've done a little research on the net on this issue for an assignment I'm doing and got thoroughly confused. This is why I have asked about it. I do understand that SOME updates will remain available for ASSOCIATED apps like

 

  • Office
  • Bitdefender
  • Malicious software tool
  • Silverlight
  • Etc, Etc  

and others that are not part of the actual XP operating system. Unfortunately I no longer have a XP machine to experiment with. I take it by the discussion here that I'm not the only one that is unaware of a definitive answer, and by that statement I cast no aspersion on the kindly responses supplied to date. Whilst I am thankful for the responses, unfortunately the question remains.






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