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windows.old folder makes no sense


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#1 cafejose

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Posted 19 March 2016 - 05:09 AM

New computer purchased here a month ago with Windows 10 already installed.  About a week ago, a folder was formed, "Windows.old", found in the system32 folder.  This makes no sense, if the meaning for windows.old is that an upgrade was done.  NO upgrade of Windows was done.  The new computer came with Windows 10 already.   WHAT does this folder then mean?



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Posted 19 March 2016 - 07:09 AM

Open the "Windows Old" and have a look at the files within , they may give some info.

 

But sounds like maybe an Upgrade was done.

 

More info here if you wish to Delete it.    http://www.howtogeek.com/223821/what-is-the-windows.old-folder-and-how-do-you-delete-it/



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Posted 19 March 2016 - 05:40 PM

Hi, cafejose,

of course you can clean your system with the usual cleanup tools under "Start - Windows Maintenance - Drive-Cleanup" (sorry for the poor translation from my german system, but I guess you get what I mean).

The better way is to use "run" (or WIN+R) as an admin, and use Cleanmgr /sageset:65535 & cleanmgr /sagerun:65535

This way you have more options of what you want to throw out as if you use the "normal" way of cleaning up. Just watch out for a minimized icon on the taskbar possibly waiting to be activated to enter your preferences.

Just try it, won't hurt!

Greetings from Germany,

Curly

P.S.: Win10 is instead of the normal updating as we know from previous versions always "upgrading" to a "newer version" with every update - so that could be a reason that another win.old shows up somewhere ...



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Posted 19 March 2016 - 05:53 PM

You get a Windows.old folder if the system is updated from W10 - build 10240 to W10 - build 10586 (this is the Fall Update/Threshold 2/TH2/1511 update)

 

At work, if you have us set your computer up, one of the things that we do is to automatically update the system - which includes the 1511 update.

Or, it may be that you accepted the 1511 update when running Windows Updates - and it installed and created the Windows.old directory then.


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Posted 19 March 2016 - 06:41 PM

usasma,

What you say is confusing, but maybe what has happened.   A few days ago, Windows Update was started - forgot how - but the update process was VERY LONG, about 90 minutes.  The screen was occupied with a circle with a percentage reading and three labels of activity on the bottom as part of the progress.  This must mean that an old version of WINDOWS 10 was upgraded (?) to a newer version of WINDOWS 10..... (?)

 

The computer was bought NEW, Windows 10 already installed, from a big-name consumer electronics retail store.  LAST MONTH.



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Posted 19 March 2016 - 07:03 PM

The screen was occupied with a circle with a percentage reading and three labels of activity on the bottom as part of the progress.

usasma is right.  That's is exactly what happens when build 10586 is installed.  That is why you have a Windows.old folder.



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Posted 19 March 2016 - 07:05 PM

Please see the private message that I sent you.

 

Today at work I opened up a box with a brand spanking new W10 computer in it.

My first check is to run "winver" from the run dialog and see what version of W10 is installed.

And, guess what?  Yep, W10 build 10240 (the older one) was the version on the new system.

So I updated the UEFI, and then installed the 1511 update (which is the build 10585 version) before doing anything else.

 

It's not uncommon for systems to sit on the shelf for a while before they're sold.

For example, the OEM has to manufacture it and ship it to this country (if it's manufacturered elsewhere).  They'll wait until they have enough to make the shipment economically feasible before actually shipping.

Then they send it out to their distribution centers, and they may in turn send them to smaller distribution centers of theirs.

Those distribution centers have to then send it to the stores that purchase it.

Again, these stores often have distribution centers, and may even have more levels of distribution than the OEM does.

 

As Windows Updates are becoming more and more "forced", this works well for the OEM's

They don't have to worry about updating the build 10240 systems - as Windows Update will take care of it for them.

We push it at work so that you're not bothered with it at home (and don't have the expense/time of the huge download to contend with).


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