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#1 Elendil

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Posted 01 August 2006 - 09:43 AM

If you visit the Java Download Website, you'll realize that it says Runtime 5 Update 6 is the latest version of Java; however, I have Java Runtime 5 Update 7 which I know was the latest version. Was there an error with R5U7 forcing them to repeal back to R5U6?
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Posted 01 August 2006 - 09:58 AM

I have update number 6 installed on mine. When i goto control panel, and select java to check for updates, it informs me i have the latest version installed. The computer checks every month automatically for updates, and has never come up informing me of version 7, although i have heard a few times on the BC forum that some have version 7. Whether or not 7 is an official update i dont know, but ive tried the java site and cant find anything regarding update 7! Try using the control panel - java update option and see what what it says about you having the latest version there.
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Posted 01 August 2006 - 11:22 AM

Was there an error with R5U7 forcing them to repeal back to R5U6?

I haven't heard the definitive answer to that, so I find it strange that Update 6 is offered as the latest version to download. That would explain why some people we have asked to update during a HijackThis log session are posting back that they have updated but 6 still shows up in their log.

Before I go any further with this I want to let everyone who may be reading this know that it is essential to keep Java up to date because Vundo and probably some other malware are being installied because of vulnerabilities in older versions.

I guess the only way at the moment to determine if you have the latest version is to go to Add/Remove thru Control Panel and look for any J2SE Runtime Environment entries. The latest version entry should look like this: J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 7

BTW, you may have other J2SE entries. Any that show up with an Update number lower than 7 should be uninstalled to insure it's not exploited.

graveangel, using the updater from the Java Console in Control Panel is known to be flaky. Not dependable at all. Best to update Java manually. It usually is more convenient and user friendly to go to the page Elendil linked to to do this. But when there are problems with it (like there are now apparently) you can usually always go to the following page to do a manual download and install: http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp

Most users just need the runtime environment, so scroll down and look for Java Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 Update 7 and download it, unless you are into development.

From there do a basic clean install of an updated program.

1. Download and save the setup file to your desktop or designated downloads folder. With Java you'll need to accept the lincense agreement and recommend the offline installation (jre-1_5_0_07-windows-i586-p.exe).

2. Uninstall the old version from the Add/Remove applet via Control Panel.

3. Double-click the setup files you saved to install.

I like to reboot after uninstalling and when setup is complete. I will also usually also go offline and disable my firewall. Sometimes my AV.

Thanks for bringing this up Elendil. It actually took a little work to even find Update 7, and that seems to be the only place you can get it right now. Hope Sun gets it straightened out soon, and if anyone knows what is going on let us know.

Alternatively, if you have update 6 installed you may want to hold onto it until we get more information. I seem to remember someone trying to update to 7 and having problems installing it after they had already uninstalled 6. That may be why 6 is still offered on that page.

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Posted 01 August 2006 - 12:26 PM

Thanks for the info Papakid, I will be monitoring this thread along with any others regarding Java here and over at CastleCops to see if anything pops up that can answer our question.
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Posted 01 August 2006 - 01:05 PM

Thanks for the update Papakid (no pun intended)

This is an interesting one. I too will be keeping an eye on this thread. I find it a little strange to say the least that if update 7 is the latest update and working, then why is it not available more easily.

I will post back with any info i find out!
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Posted 01 August 2006 - 02:03 PM

Is anyone finding discrepancies with the VERIFY your JAVA Software Installation & Version page?

This is what I get.

We detected your Java environment as follows;
Description Your Environment
Java Runtime Vendor: Sun Microsystems Inc.
Java Runtime Version: 1.5.0_07

CONGRATULATIONS, you have the Latest version of Java!


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Posted 01 August 2006 - 03:42 PM

Just checked mine....... i got....

We detected your Java environment as follows;
Description Your Environment
Java Runtime Vendor:

Sun Microsystems Inc.
Java Runtime Version

1.5.0_07


CONGRATULATIONS, you have the Latest version of Java!


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Posted 01 August 2006 - 06:33 PM

I get the same, which actually I expected since I did a clean install of 7 quite a while ago. I would be curious to see what the verification says for someone who still has 6 on their system and hasn't yet tried to update in any way.

Graveangel, could you check in Add/Remove and see if you have 7 showing and if not see what the verification page tells you?

I did find a thread in the Java forum about this but no answer:
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?thre...83&tstart=0

Evidently that forum is mostly for developers and they don't care much for end users.

here and over at CastleCops

Got a link? I did a quick search over there but couldn't come up with anything. I would be interested in any discussion on the subject.

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Posted 01 August 2006 - 06:56 PM

According to the information I see in the add/move programs utility, I have J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 6 installed. If I use the Java Control Panel, it checks and replies that the latest is installed on my system. When I test it at the link given:

Java Runtime Vendor:

Sun Microsystems Inc.
Java Runtime Version

1.5.0_06


CONGRATULATIONS, you have the Latest version of Java!

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Posted 01 August 2006 - 10:19 PM

I get the same thing....1.5.0_06 Congratulations Blah Blah

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Posted 01 August 2006 - 11:28 PM

Just checked mine...

JAVA SOFTWARE for Your Computer

We detected your Java environment as follows;
Description Your Environment
Java Runtime Vendor:

Sun Microsystems Inc.
Java Runtime Version

1.5.0_07


CONGRATULATIONS, you have the Latest version of Java!


This was the link I updated from just over one week ago.(Is strange it says update 6!) http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
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Posted 02 August 2006 - 07:03 AM

here and over at CastleCops

Got a link? I did a quick search over there but couldn't come up with anything. I would be interested in any discussion on the subject.


Oh no, I didn't start a thread over at CC because this one got several responses rather quickly and as you said, there hasn't been any discussion on this yet. Anyways, this whole thing is a little odd. We who have R5U7 get the ok that we have the latest, yet the older R5U6 also get confirmation that they have the latest; maybe it's just me... but I'm a little confused here :thumbsup:
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Posted 02 August 2006 - 07:22 AM

Im confused as well. :thumbsup:

This is my verification:

Description Your Environment
Java Runtime Vendor:

Sun Microsystems Inc.
Java Runtime Version

1.5.0_06


CONGRATULATIONS, you have the Latest version of Java!


According to Java the latest version is:

Release Notes
JavaTM 2 Platform Standard Edition Development Kit 5.0 Update 7
(JDK 5.0 Update 7)


http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/ReleaseNotes.html

Latest Version

* Changes to 1.5.0_07

Earlier Versions

* Changes to 1.5.0_06

:flowers: I may try and update later today to 7 to see what happens.
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Posted 02 August 2006 - 09:11 AM

So it appears the update is available but from a different download page then the one most of us previously used.
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Posted 02 August 2006 - 10:11 AM

Well i know through add/remove that i only have update 6 installed, but when i attempt to run the version test, i recieve a white box with a red x, no results. Tried emptying the cache amongst other things and still nothing. Its all a little odd because version 6 was working fine.

Im going to attempt update 7 later to see what i get then.

UPDATE:
I have installed update 7 and the version test has recognised this and has informed me that i have the latest version:

Description Your Environment
Java Runtime Vendor:

Sun Microsystems Inc.
Java Runtime Version

1.5.0_07


CONGRATULATIONS, you have the Latest version of Java!


I have in the meantime sent an email to Sun Microsystems in the hope of finding out why according to version scans both 6 and 7 updates are showing up as THE latest version.
I will keep you updated on any info i recieve!

Edited by graveangel, 02 August 2006 - 11:47 AM.

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