Also a noob question what are the small slots located in between the PCIE slots? What are they primarily used for?
Those really short slots in between are PCIe slots. They're just PCIe x2 slots. You could technically plug any PCIe device into them and it work..granted at lower speeds.
Before you ask YES you could technically plug a graphics card into every single one of those, but it's generally only ever done for server or science computing type of stuff where graphics cards are used for mass calculations. Most games can only use a single graphics card. The ones that an use multiple usually only use up to two, and in very very very rare games up to four can be used.
I will admit though when you speak of lanes I'm not too familiar with what you mean about CPU lanes.. What does CPU lanes have to do with the PCIE slots? I
Ok this is another weird thing Intel did awhile back, where some functions of the chipset got built into the CPU. The chipset and the CPU both have PCIe lanes coming out of them.
The ones coming out of the chipset are meant to be used for additional built in devices on the motherboard (USB port controllers, sound chips, ect), and are also usually used for some of the expansion slots for things like adding more storage (like the PCIe SSD you want), wireless cards, additional USB ports (if what it has isn't enough), Ethernet ports, and a plethora of other things that you may wish to add into your computer.
The ones coming out of your CPU are generally meant for your video card, but can be used for other things and vice versa with the ones from the chipset. Was done to specifically avoid issues where plugging something into the other PCIe slots might effect your graphics card.
Why most of the Z170 boards have two slots coming out of the CPU, instead of just one, is to use two graphic card simultaneously running at PCIe x8 speed. Yes, running a graphics card at x8 speed is something they support doing. That way neither has to resort to using the chipsets PCIe lanes.
Ok.. I understand lanes a bit more now..Ok so maybe I should switch to a 2011v3 board since it has more lanes? Or since the z170 on the 1151 adds 20 more its not worth it?
The 2nd one. The 20 additional lanes the Z170 has are built specifically for what you're trying to do.
They come with ZERO pci slots.. Not even one for a sound card or even another ethernet.. Oh well.
Actually....a lot of them do come with older PCI slots, and specifically for the reason that everyone has a ton of PCI cards that have been around forever.
PCI isn't built into any modern chipset, but board makers will commonly add in a chip that uses some of the chipsets PCIe lanes for PCI slot. In fact, if you look at the Gigabyte board I linked, it has 2 PCI slots on it.
PCIe came out in 2004 as a replacement for both PCI that had come out in 1992, and AGP (graphics card port) that came out in 1996. Much in the same way that PCI has replaced and combined the use of ISA slots that came out in 1981, MCA ports made in 1987, and VLB ports that came out in 1992.
So every PCI card you have. There is a PCIe variant of it now.
Also, like I said, most of the things you'd need a dedicated card before are built in to the board now. Unlike before where the built in sucked.... they're generally pretty good now because all those extra feature are really cheap to add in a good version of. Like the only difference you'll find between the built in audio and a dedicated card is that the dedicated card might have a specific port you desire. Such as a toslink in and RCA out/in, where as integrated audio usually only ever has toslink out in standard 1/8inch jacks in/out for audio.
Only thing they seem to neglect building in to desktop boards is a wireless cards. Since it's a desktop they'd expect you to run a the more stable/faster Ethernet cable to it.
Lastly with the boards you listed I only had a problem with one.. In fact it's probably not even a problem but I love asus, had their boards for years and years I love em.. I click the asus board you listed but it has only 1 review.. Those kinds of buys scare me.. What are your thoughts on that?
That's more of a mess up on Neweggs part putting down multiple listings of the same board. If you check the Gigabyte board I linked you'll see it has 80+ reviews. Sure you'll find a ton of reviews on the ASUS board I linked if you checked other sites. The MSI board only has 8 reviews cause I'd assume that they're not as popular a brand as ASUS or Gigabyte. Can assure you that all three boards are perfectly fine.
You say the skylake only uses 16 lanes.. Is that good or bad? I thought skylake was top dog for upper tier computer makers... Help me understand more.. What are the highest lane cpus made today? Ok (little embarrassing) I'm not going to erase what I said just now but I see a previous post about lanes I'm going to look at that now to see if some of my questions have already been answered hehe . . . .. . . . . . . . .
Lots of questions asked...typing lots of answers XD hope it's not all to long.
Skylake is Intels newest CPU architecture for their newest consumer socket (1151). Don't let the term consumer mislead you. You'll still find Intels consumer sockets in plenty of professional workstations and offices. In fact it's designed to better suit the kind of load games put out. As it's made to support fewer cores, but higher clock speed, CPUs. Most you'll find on it is a 4 core, 8 thread (virtually seen as 8 cores, lengthy explanation), CPU running at 4Ghz stock speed. As most games won't properly use over 4 cores, and the ones that do use more don't see any real benefit over 8.
Intel also makes a separate socket and CPU line made for high end computer enthusiasts, massive workstations, servers, and supper computers. That current socket is 2011-V3. Made for running multiple CPUs with quad or even seven video card setups. With so much power you could run literally seven high end gaming rigs at once off of one of said systems. No joke, a PC enthusiast channel on youtube made such a system for a company to demo at a tech show. Video is titled "7 gamers 1 CPU".
CPUs made for that socket have a high core count (up to 18 cores with 32 threads) with a low clock speed (somewhere around 2.2Ghz). Yes people have tried to play games on these CPUs anyways, but they performed worse in games compared to the best of the "consumer" socket CPUs. The consumer socket CPU costing 365$ compared to the over 4000$ server/workstation CPU.
They do make 3 more... consumer oriented CPUs for the socket, but they're running a older architecture that will perform worse then the new Skylake ones do. They're mainly made for people who need to do professional work during the day, but play games at night. They are also bought by people who want to push their systems balls-to-the-wall while throwing budget out the window. Buying a 1000$+ below 0 cooler or 600$ of water cooling, and making those normally low clockspeed CPUs run at 4Ghz regardless.
*clears throat* Ahem. With that out of the way, yes 2011-v3 has more CPU PCIe lanes. It does, but that fact that it does shouldn't effect your decision.
Edited by SEANIA, 06 March 2016 - 09:59 AM.