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#1 Ravenbar

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 07:07 PM

I'm having an issue I believe is HDD related. About every other boot, my system posts and then the screen goes blank and nothing happens.

 

I need recommendations on a program to check the drive and see if there are any issues.


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Posted 18 February 2016 - 07:31 PM

I am not a linux expert by any means but Mint should have the Disks program. In that you can check your Smart status

 

650x484xDisk-Utility-Small.png.pagespeed.

 

There is also a terminal command called badblocks that will check your drive.

 

sudo badblock -v /dev/sda1      or what partition you are going to check

 

http://linux.101hacks.com/unix/badblocks/

 

The bootable Ultimate Boot CD has many HD diagnostic tools also. GsmartControl is part of Parted Magic which checks your Smart attributes and does short/long tests.



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Posted 18 February 2016 - 08:11 PM

I am not a linux expert by any means but Mint should have the Disks program. In that you can check your Smart status

 

650x484xDisk-Utility-Small.png.pagespeed.

 

There is also a terminal command called badblocks that will check your drive.

 

sudo badblock -v /dev/sda1      or what partition you are going to check

 

http://linux.101hacks.com/unix/badblocks/

 

The bootable Ultimate Boot CD has many HD diagnostic tools also. GsmartControl is part of Parted Magic which checks your Smart attributes and does short/long tests.

 

I don't think I have the Disk Utility program.

 

I already have found the GSmartControl program(since I posted) and am running a long test now.  It does show some errors which appear to be Write Protection at a couple different sectors.

 

Error 32035 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 7576 hours (315 days + 16 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 51 00 d5 08 55 01  Error: WP at LBA = 0x015508d5 = 22350037

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  61 00 08 a0 bc a4 41 00      02:58:37.856  WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
  61 00 08 f0 77 a0 41 00      02:58:37.855  WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
  61 00 08 60 bc a4 41 00      02:58:37.855  WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
  61 00 08 00 78 a0 41 00      02:58:37.855  WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
  61 00 08 20 b8 a4 41 00      02:58:37.854  WRITE FPDMA QUEUED

Error 32034 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 7576 hours (315 days + 16 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 51 00 d5 08 55 01  Error: WP at LBA = 0x015508d5 = 22350037

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  61 00 08 28 80 2f 4f 00      02:58:35.323  WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
  61 00 08 08 78 a0 41 00      02:58:35.323  WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
  61 00 38 50 68 2f 4f 00      02:58:35.322  WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
  60 00 80 d0 08 55 41 00      02:58:35.321  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  61 00 08 98 81 aa 41 00      02:58:35.321  WRITE FPDMA QUEUED

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 09:03 PM

Under the attributes tab in Gsmartcontrol pay special attention to Pending Sector Count and Reallocated Sector Count.

 

In Mint, if you type Disks in the Search Box there is nothing listed? It can be installed but it probably best to do a disk check offline using a bootable disk.



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Posted 18 February 2016 - 09:12 PM

Under the attributes tab in Gsmartcontrol pay special attention to Pending Sector Count and Reallocated Sector Count.

 

In Mint, if you type Disks in the Search Box there is nothing listed? It can be installed but it probably best to do a disk check offline using a bootable disk.

There are a couple of disk usage utilities and K3b.

 

When I look under the attributed tab for the disk see this, (I'm pricing out SSD's now):

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Edited by Ravenbar, 18 February 2016 - 09:13 PM.

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 09:22 PM

The drive does not look bad. You have only one pending sector count and zero reallocated sectors. I started a live Linux Mint 17.2 disk. I was able to start Disks and do a Smart test. I am not sure why it was not installed on your distro. Are you doing this on the Lubuntu computer?



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Posted 18 February 2016 - 09:35 PM

The drive does not look bad. You have only one pending sector count and zero reallocated sectors. I started a live Linux Mint 17.2 disk. I was able to start Disks and do a Smart test. I am not sure why it was not installed on your distro. Are you doing this on the Lubuntu computer?

No, but it's the KDE version of Linux Mint.

 

The Type column is what's making me nervous, I see a bunch of old age and pre-failure indicators there.I'm looking for a reason to upgrade anyway as the hdd's, case, and optical drive are the only things not new withing the last month on the system.


Edited by Ravenbar, 18 February 2016 - 09:39 PM.

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 10:17 PM

Having a pre-fail and old age error doesn't necessarily mean the drive is failing. As you can see from my GsmartControl attributes. Though I am going to watch my reallocated sector count to see if it increased.

 

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Posted 19 February 2016 - 05:41 AM

I've seen those same errors on several of my HDD's & SSD's, take it with a grain of salt, backup regularly, and am not concerned over it. Though if the drive was used a lot and up there in years (over 7 years), would be more concerned & swap ASAP. At today's HDD/SSD pricing, wouldn't risk my OS on an older drive, especially if other tests were ran & performance was degrading, or a scan with a block check & there were lots with read errors. 

 

To be honest, I don't see how GSmartControl comes up with it's predictions on 2-5 year old drives, which passes other tests with flying colors. 

 

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Posted 19 February 2016 - 11:02 AM

. . . an issue I believe is HDD related . . . every other boot . . . the screen goes blank . . . need . . .  a program to check the drive . . . 

 

Ravenbar,

 

I would suggest that you use UBCD to do any HDD diagnostics.  You can find it here:  http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html

 

It contains most manufacturers HDD diagnostic utilities in the HDD part of the menu.  It will tell you if you have a problem with your HDD.  It is a Linux based bootable CD.

 

It also has Memtest on it as well.  That will help you if your RAM is the issue.  Bad RAM or bad caps on the MB will give you the symptom you are describing, as well.

 

Cheers!

 

Naught.



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Posted 21 February 2016 - 07:33 AM

 

. . . an issue I believe is HDD related . . . every other boot . . . the screen goes blank . . . need . . .  a program to check the drive . . . 

 

Ravenbar,

 

I would suggest that you use UBCD to do any HDD diagnostics.  You can find it here:  http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html

 

It contains most manufacturers HDD diagnostic utilities in the HDD part of the menu.  It will tell you if you have a problem with your HDD.  It is a Linux based bootable CD.

 

It also has Memtest on it as well.  That will help you if your RAM is the issue.  Bad RAM or bad caps on the MB will give you the symptom you are describing, as well.

 

Cheers!

 

Naught.

 

I fired UBCD up and couldn't find a test that would scan my HDD.(Seagate Momentus 5400.6). I already had Memtest on the system and ran that last night(v4.20). No errors found. I'm also hoping this isn't a motherboard issue as the board is less than a month old and has all solid caps(Gigabyte GA-F2A88Xm-D3H).

 

That's why I'm leaning towards hard drive as that came an unknown history computer I pulled from the trash pile(I work at a recycling plant and people occasionally throw a computer in the recycling bin). I ran GSmartControl   Extended test on it and it it shows "Completed with read failure" in one column and (50% completed) in another. The Error log also shows a total of 32038 errors, with only the last 5 stored. The storedones all list power on as the time the error happened. The only other drive out of the 5 on my system that shows errors is the 160Gb one with only 160 errors.

 

In your quote about my problem, I think you missed a couple important words. The screen goes blank after the system POST's.


Edited by Ravenbar, 21 February 2016 - 07:43 AM.

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Posted 21 February 2016 - 10:19 AM

I ordered a 120Gb SSD to replace the HDD in question, as well as a couple other upgrades.

 

I've ran into another little snag. Since I'm planning on cloning the HDD to the ssd and the SSD is a lot smaller than the HDD, I was going to resize the partition(I've only used about 40Gb of the drive). I booted into a live disk to resize the partition and its not giving me the option of resizing that drive, but it does for every other drive on the system. Any ideas?


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Posted 21 February 2016 - 11:05 AM

UBCD . . . couldn't find a test that would scan my HDD . . . (Seagate Momentus 5400.6). . .hoping this isn't a motherboard issue . . . hard drive . . . came . . . from the trash pile . . . in the recycling bin . .

 


. . . I think you missed , , , The screen goes blank after the system POST's.

 

Seatools should be on the UBCD disk.  I use it quite a bit, but sometimes I run into a system/drive combination that doesn't load properly through the UBCD.  You can also get the diagnostics directly from Seagate.

 

Go directly to the Seagate support page here:  http://www.seagate.com/ca/en/support/internal-hard-drives/laptop-hard-drives/momentus-laptop/

 

Seatools for DOS is a bootable ISO for Seagate Diagnostics. 

 

You can eliminate the HDD issue, by running the manufacturers diagnostics.

 

I suggest you try the diags with only the suspected drive installed in the system.  Disconnect the other drives and then boot from the diag cd.  Better yet, if possible, remove the suspect drive and test it in another machine by it's self.  Most especially if this is a salvaged HDD.

 

Cheers!

 

Naught.

 

PS:  I did notice that you stated about every other time you get a failed boot, with the screen going blank.  That is why I suggested memtest. But I would eliminate the salvaged HDD problem first, before going any further.



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Posted 21 February 2016 - 11:15 AM

Ravenbar,

 . . . The only other drive out of the 5 on my system . . . screen goes blank after the system POST's.

 

:oopsign: Eh!

 

After I posted the above a brain fart told me to ask you if the intermittent post problem goes away when you disconnect the suspected drive. :huh:

 

Just unhook the suspected drive (presuming it is not the boot drive,) and if the system boot errors stop, then yes, the drive is the issue.

 

Cheers!

 

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Edited by Naught McNoone, 21 February 2016 - 11:16 AM.


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Posted 21 February 2016 - 03:42 PM

 

 

UBCD . . . couldn't find a test that would scan my HDD . . . (Seagate Momentus 5400.6). . .hoping this isn't a motherboard issue . . . hard drive . . . came . . . from the trash pile . . . in the recycling bin . .

 


. . . I think you missed , , , The screen goes blank after the system POST's.ravenbar@live.com

 

Seatools should be on the UBCD disk.  I use it quite a bit, but sometimes I run into a system/drive combination that doesn't load properly through the UBCD.  You can also get the diagnostics directly from Seagate.

 

Go directly to the Seagate support page here:  http://www.seagate.com/ca/en/support/internal-hard-drives/laptop-hard-drives/momentus-laptop/

 

Seatools for DOS is a bootable ISO for Seagate Diagnostics. 

 

You can eliminate the HDD issue, by running the manufacturers diagnostics.

 

I suggest you try the diags with only the suspected drive installed in the system.  Disconnect the other drives and then boot from the diag cd.  Better yet, if possible, remove the suspect drive and test it in another machine by it's self.  Most especially if this is a salvaged HDD.

 

Cheers!ravenbar@live.com

 

Naught.

 

PS:  I did notice that you stated about every other time you get a failed boot, with the screen going blank.  That is why I suggested memtest. But I would eliminate the salvaged HDD problem first, before going any further.

 

Seatools is on the disk, but fails to detect any hdd's on my system.

 

The suspect drive is the boot drive for the machine(only one OS on the machine currently). The machine doesn't appear to fail to boot. The system posts and I get the single beep, then it does nothing, as if the boot drive doesn't take over from the BIOS or the drive failed to boot properly.  I've also unplugged all the USB drives from the system, thinking it might be trying to boot from one of them to no success.

 

I've already ran memtest and it came back with no errors. I've got a second stick of the same RAM on the way with the SSD as I only got a single stick when I put the system together and the MB is dual channel capable.

 

I'll poke around and see what other OS's I have in the stack that I may want to install on the 160Gb drive as that's currently empty. Edit: Currently have Manjaro installing on that drive, The questionable drive is disconnected.


Edited by Ravenbar, 21 February 2016 - 04:07 PM.

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