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The FBI Demands Apple To Create iOS Backdoor


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#1 InsufficientFunds

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 12:20 PM

February 16, 2016

"A Message to Our Customers
The United States government has demanded that Apple take an unprecedented step which threatens the security of our customers. We oppose this order, which has implications far beyond the legal case at hand.

This moment calls for public discussion, and we want our customers and people around the country to understand what is at stake.

The Need for Encryption
Smartphones, led by iPhone, have become an essential part of our lives. People use them to store an incredible amount of personal information, from our private conversations to our photos, our music, our notes, our calendars and contacts, our financial information and health data, even where we have been and where we are going.

All that information needs to be protected from hackers and criminals who want to access it, steal it, and use it without our knowledge or permission. Customers expect Apple and other technology companies to do everything in our power to protect their personal information, and at Apple we are deeply committed to safeguarding their data.

Compromising the security of our personal information can ultimately put our personal safety at risk. That is why encryption has become so important to all of us.

For many years, we have used encryption to protect our customers personal data because we believe its the only way to keep their information safe. We have even put that data out of our own reach, because we believe the contents of your iPhone are none of our business.

The San Bernardino Case
We were shocked and outraged by the deadly act of terrorism in San Bernardino last December. We mourn the loss of life and want justice for all those whose lives were affected. The FBI asked us for help in the days following the attack, and we have worked hard to support the governments efforts to solve this horrible crime. We have no sympathy for terrorists.

When the FBI has requested data thats in our possession, we have provided it. Apple complies with valid subpoenas and search warrants, as we have in the San Bernardino case. We have also made Apple engineers available to advise the FBI, and weve offered our best ideas on a number of investigative options at their disposal.

We have great respect for the professionals at the FBI, and we believe their intentions are good. Up to this point, we have done everything that is both within our power and within the law to help them. But now the U.S. government has asked us for something we simply do not have, and something we consider too dangerous to create. They have asked us to build a backdoor to the iPhone.

Specifically, the FBI wants us to make a new version of the iPhone operating system, circumventing several important security features, and install it on an iPhone recovered during the investigation. In the wrong hands, this software which does not exist today would have the potential to unlock any iPhone in someones physical possession.

The FBI may use different words to describe this tool, but make no mistake: Building a version of iOS that bypasses security in this way would undeniably create a backdoor. And while the government may argue that its use would be limited to this case, there is no way to guarantee such control.

The Threat to Data Security
Some would argue that building a backdoor for just one iPhone is a simple, clean-cut solution. But it ignores both the basics of digital security and the significance of what the government is demanding in this case.

In todays digital world, the key to an encrypted system is a piece of information that unlocks the data, and it is only as secure as the protections around it. Once the information is known, or a way to bypass the code is revealed, the encryption can be defeated by anyone with that knowledge.

The government suggests this tool could only be used once, on one phone. But thats simply not true. Once created, the technique could be used over and over again, on any number of devices. In the physical world, it would be the equivalent of a master key, capable of opening hundreds of millions of locks from restaurants and banks to stores and homes. No reasonable person would find that acceptable.

The government is asking Apple to hack our own users and undermine decades of security advancements that protect our customers including tens of millions of American citizens from sophisticated hackers and cybercriminals. The same engineers who built strong encryption into the iPhone to protect our users would, ironically, be ordered to weaken those protections and make our users less safe.

We can find no precedent for an American company being forced to expose its customers to a greater risk of attack. For years, cryptologists and national security experts have been warning against weakening encryption. Doing so would hurt only the well-meaning and law-abiding citizens who rely on companies like Apple to protect their data. Criminals and bad actors will still encrypt, using tools that are readily available to them.

A Dangerous Precedent
Rather than asking for legislative action through Congress, the FBI is proposing an unprecedented use of the All Writs Act of 1789 to justify an expansion of its authority.

The government would have us remove security features and add new capabilities to the operating system, allowing a passcode to be input electronically. This would make it easier to unlock an iPhone by brute force, trying thousands or millions of combinations with the speed of a modern computer.

The implications of the governments demands are chilling. If the government can use the All Writs Act to make it easier to unlock your iPhone, it would have the power to reach into anyones device to capture their data. The government could extend this breach of privacy and demand that Apple build surveillance software to intercept your messages, access your health records or financial data, track your location, or even access your phones microphone or camera without your knowledge.

Opposing this order is not something we take lightly. We feel we must speak up in the face of what we see as an overreach by the U.S. government.

We are challenging the FBIs demands with the deepest respect for American democracy and a love of our country. We believe it would be in the best interest of everyone to step back and consider the implications.

While we believe the FBIs intentions are good, it would be wrong for the government to force us to build a backdoor into our products. And ultimately, we fear that this demand would undermine the very freedoms and liberty our government is meant to protect.


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I'm not in disbelief considering how Apple has dealt with user privacy in the past. Apple has clearly stated they have no interest in their consumers private lives and do not intrude. I am happy that they are now protesting the FBI and I would expect if they are to lose to this case, they will inform their users that they have installed Backdoor access to their iOS infrastructure. The need of security for our content in the cyber world has become more evident than ever, and this really riled me up. I would expect the Backdoor to appear in its most grossed Apple iOS 9.3 with the new feature of an f.lux copycat. What do you guys believe will happen?

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 12:36 PM

Asking the creator of an OS that cannot even properly handle UNIX time to introduce a backdoor in it. I can see it blowing up from miles away.

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Posted 17 February 2016 - 02:04 PM

Weakening encryption can never be the way forward because it puts everyone, including the Government, at risk.  Woe be unto us all.



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Posted 17 February 2016 - 04:53 PM

The apocalypse is neigh. Pigs are becoming airborne. The netherworld is having a major cold snap. This is the first time I have agreed with Apple on anything. Well done Apple. This needs to be discussed openly!

In simple terms.... You can never fully put the genie back in the bottle once you let him out.

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 12:17 PM

More article(s) (will post as I come across them):
http://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-iphone-fbi-backdoor-war-silicon-valley/
https://threatpost.com/apples-cook-opposes-court-order-to-hack-san-bernardino-shooters-phone/116274/
https://threatpost.com/apple-technically-able-to-help-fbi-crack-shooters-iphone/116321/
http://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-vs-the-fbi-this-may-not-be-a-war-apple-can-win/
http://www.zdnet.com/article/australian-attorney-general-and-esafety-commissioner-dismiss-apple-backdoor-concerns/
http://www.zdnet.com/article/google-and-whatsapp-chiefs-back-apple-in-backdoor-fight/
http://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-would-not-betray-users-by-complying-with-court-order/
http://www.zdnet.com/article/this-is-how-the-fbi-wants-apple-to-backdoor-the-iphone/
http://www.zdnet.com/article/apples-tim-cook-well-fight-iphone-backdoor-demands-from-fbi/
http://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-must-to-help-fbi-unlock-san-bernardino-gunmans-phone-judge/

Edited by Aura, 18 February 2016 - 12:19 PM.

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 11:41 PM

UNIX or Epoc time ;)



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Posted 22 February 2016 - 02:49 PM

Steps out onto shaky ground here.
 
I support the FBI on this, law enforcement must have a way to get into these things when the owner has committed a serious crime.
Paedophiles will love this, When caught all they have to do is not unlock the phone, No evidence no conviction.


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Posted 23 February 2016 - 02:20 PM

If the FBI(which they fully admit now) had not reset the icloud password there would be no need for a backdoor.

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Posted 25 February 2016 - 01:47 AM

I understand what Mr franklin said very well and agree with it, and yet deep down I also know that law enforcement must have a way into some of these devices.

 

In simple terms.... You can never fully put the genie back in the bottle once you let him out.

I agree.


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Posted 25 February 2016 - 04:00 PM

Apple is working on New iPhone Even It Can't Hack\

A phone even Apple cant hack, Criminals are going to love that.


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Posted 26 February 2016 - 08:10 PM

To complicate probable cause matters is this: http://www.businessinsider.com/san-bernardino-police-reasonably-good-chance-nothing-of-value-on-shooters-iphone-2016-2

One overlooked fact in the battle between the FBI and Apple: there probably isn't any useful information on Syed Farook's government-issued phone.

That's according to San Bernardino police chief Jarrod Burguan, who was part of the investigation into the two shooters who killed 14 during a mass shooting event last December.


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Posted 22 March 2016 - 06:13 AM

Stick to your guns Apple.  This is my opinion on the matter.  https://youtu.be/2M3G-z2-1WY



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Posted 22 March 2016 - 05:50 PM

Update 3/22/2016: http://bgr.com/2016/03/22/apple-fbi-san-bernardino-iphone-how-hack-works/

 

 

It’s actually pretty scary that the FBI openly acknowledged that there may be a way to hack any iPhone and throw encryption right out the window. But that’s exactly what the U.S. government did on Monday night. It told the world, and Apple, that a third-party can do what the FBI can’t and what Apple refuses: Break into an iPhone that was recovered from one of the San Bernardino shooters and is protected by a PIN.

 






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