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#1 beachfeet

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Posted 16 January 2016 - 08:06 PM

Greetings Everyone,

I am attempting to save a backup image, of Ubuntu 14.04, on an external HDD. The external HDD is a Western Digital 3TB My Book. The external drive, has 2.6TB of free space, and is an NTFS formatted drive, with a single basic partition. I have several OS backups, located in a folder on the drive, from alternative systems. After connecting the USB cable, the system automatically detects the drive. I am able to read files from the drive, as well as save files to the drive, using Ubuntu 14.04. However, if I open TimeShift, I cannot see the drive, in the drop down menu. I assumed that this was going to be a simple task, of just opening TimeShift, changing the backup location, and creating a backup. Unfortunately, I have been plugging away at this, for some time, with no luck. If someone could please assist me, with this backup creation issue, I would really appreciate it. The internal HDD is starting to fail, and grind so I would like to get this backup created soon.

As a side note, I may purchase an SSD, to replace the failing HDD. Does anyone believe that I may run into problems, while attempting to restore the TimeShift image (if I manage to create one) on to a new SSD?

Thank you, very much, for your time. I look forward to hearing from you.



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Posted 16 January 2016 - 08:59 PM

You may need to format a partition with ext4 to get it to be recognised  ....as NTFS is  a windows format... 

 

This is a wild guess as ive never used Timeshift......

 

There are people here who do use it and will advise you



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Posted 16 January 2016 - 09:13 PM

 

You may need to format a partition with ext4 to get it to be recognized

You are correct, The destination drive needs to be ext 4.



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Posted 30 January 2016 - 05:58 AM

Thank you, for the reply. Would it be possible to create  just a single ext 4 partition, without causing any damage to the existing files that are on the external HDD? If this is possible, are you aware of any freeware, that I could use to complete this task? Thank you, again.



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Posted 30 January 2016 - 08:57 AM

Yes you can do that, and Gparted is what I would use. If you have an Ubuntu DVD you'll find it on there.

When you say the drive has "2.6TB of free space," do you mean unallocated space (i.e. space that is outwith the existing NTFS partition), or do you mean the NTFS partition has 2.6TB of free space within it?

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Posted 30 January 2016 - 06:10 PM

Hello Al1000,

The NTFS partition, on the external drive, has 2.6TB of free space. The entire drive was originally formatted, with a single NTFS partition. I will be looking into Gparted. Thank you, for the suggestion.



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Posted 31 January 2016 - 01:47 PM

With GParted you can "shrink" the partition to create some free space, in which you can then create an ext4 partition.
 
It's always advisable to defragment NTFS partitions using Windows defragmenter tool, before shrinking them using GParted.
 
Altering partitions also has the potential to cause loss of data if something goes wrong, so it's advisable to back up anything you don't want to lose beforehand.
 
Someone posted a good tutorial for GParted a few days ago. I'll post it here if I can find it.

EDIT: Here it is:

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html

Edited by Al1000, 31 January 2016 - 01:59 PM.


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Posted 01 February 2016 - 08:39 PM

Thank you, for that link. I have created a backup, of the external drive, and I will attempt to follow those instructions.


Edited by beachfeet, 01 February 2016 - 08:40 PM.


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Posted 02 February 2016 - 04:40 AM

It's always advisable to defragment NTFS partitions using Windows defragmenter tool, before shrinking them using GParted.

Indeed, and even shrinking it with a Windows system (Disk Management) is advisable...
After that you can use GParted to convert the unallocated space to ext4.

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 07:07 PM

Thank you, everyone. I was able to create that EXT4 partition, on the external.



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Posted 04 February 2016 - 09:45 PM

Hi beachfeet

 

How large did you make the EXT4 partition?

 

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Posted 04 February 2016 - 11:40 PM

 

It's always advisable to defragment NTFS partitions using Windows defragmenter tool, before shrinking them using GParted.

Indeed, and even shrinking it with a Windows system (Disk Management) is advisable...
After that you can use GParted to convert the unallocated space to ext4.

Greets!

 

 

This used to be SOP, but GParted has become so good at moving data

when resizing NTFS partitions that this is not necessary. I have not

defragged an NTFS volume in years and i shrink them all the time for Linux.

That being said, you can defrag for that warm fuzzy feeling. :thumbsup2:


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Posted 05 February 2016 - 04:04 AM

Thanks raw. That's handy to know.

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Posted 05 February 2016 - 04:28 AM

raw:

Was just giving some general advice, not only about shrinking data but also about shrinking system partitions...

And don't forget that some distros come with really old GParted versions which are years (!) behind on the current build!

 

Better safe than sorry!

BTW, I like that warm fuzzy feeling!  :thumbsup:

 
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Posted 05 February 2016 - 01:28 PM

 

some distros come with really old GParted versions

 

That's why we always download the newest version, :P

but i also run gparted from USB before the Linux install. 


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