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Endless Updates and *Endless Repairs*


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#1 Evolution13

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 03:40 PM

I'm working on an older laptop, a Gateway M-6307 I have put in a new, formatted hard drive and installed a fresh copy of windows 7. When I have it check for updates, it just runs forever. I've let it run for 10-12 hours overnight twice, and it just keeps checking, After that I went here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/gp/windows-update-issues downloaded the automated repair tool and ran it, It;s been running for over two hours now with no end it sight.

 

The laptop has no problem getting anywhere on the internet, it's speed is honestly beautiful for such an old machine, I can manually download anything and get a clean, uncorrupted file. and it's passed motherboard, memory and hard drive tests with flying colors. The NIC Card is non functional, but disabled. The wireless card works perfectly to the best of my ability to determine.

 

HELP!!


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Posted 28 December 2015 - 04:22 PM

Hi,

 

Does your Windows 7 copy include the Service Pack 1?

 

If so try to install the update for the Windows Update Client https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3112343 maybe it will help.


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Posted 28 December 2015 - 04:23 PM

Please download MiniToolBox  , save it to your desktop and run it.
 
Checkmark the following checkboxes:
  List last 10 Event Viewer log
  List Installed Programs
  List Users, Partitions and Memory size.
 
Click Go and paste the content into your next post.
 
Also...please Publish a Snapshot using Speccy - http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic323892.html/page__p__1797792#entry1797792 , taking care to post the link of the snapshot in your next post.
 
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Posted 29 December 2015 - 02:40 AM

Alright, I tried to run the manual install for the windows update client. It searched for updates for about 3 hours before I gave up on it. Somehow I'm not surprised.

 

Here is the Speccy snapshot: http://speccy.piriform.com/results/KHI0u6sZV1rFoH8bqOYLmzk

 

Here is the MiniToolbox Data:

 

MiniToolBox by Farbar  Version: 02-11-2015
Ran by Bob (administrator) on 29-12-2015 at 02:33:03
Running from "C:\Users\Bob\Downloads"
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional  Service Pack 1 (X64)
Model: M-6307 Manufacturer: Gateway

Boot Mode: Normal
***************************************************************************

========================= Event log errors: ===============================

Application errors:
==================
Error: (12/29/2015 12:43:24 AM) (Source: WinMgmt) (User: )
Description: //./root/CIMV2SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 990x80041003

Error: (12/28/2015 10:43:47 PM) (Source: WinMgmt) (User: )
Description: //./root/CIMV2SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 990x80041003

Error: (12/28/2015 10:22:28 PM) (Source: WinMgmt) (User: )
Description: //./root/CIMV2SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 990x80041003

Error: (12/28/2015 10:19:57 PM) (Source: WinMgmt) (User: )
Description: //./root/CIMV2SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 990x80041003

Error: (12/28/2015 04:34:06 PM) (Source: WinMgmt) (User: )
Description: //./root/CIMV2SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 990x80041003

Error: (12/28/2015 01:39:09 PM) (Source: WinMgmt) (User: )
Description: //./root/CIMV2SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 990x80041003

Error: (12/28/2015 01:14:47 PM) (Source: WinMgmt) (User: )
Description: //./root/CIMV2SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 990x80041003

Error: (12/28/2015 07:12:38 AM) (Source: WinMgmt) (User: )
Description: //./root/CIMV2SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 990x80041003

Error: (12/28/2015 03:34:29 AM) (Source: Microsoft-Windows-CAPI2) (User: )
Description: Failed extract of third-party root list from auto update cab at: <http://www.download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3/static/trustedr/en/authrootstl.cab> with error: A required certificate is not within its validity period when verifying against the current system clock or the timestamp in the signed file.

Error: (12/28/2015 03:34:29 AM) (Source: Microsoft-Windows-CAPI2) (User: )
Description: Failed extract of third-party root list from auto update cab at: <http://www.download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3/static/trustedr/en/authrootstl.cab> with error: A required certificate is not within its validity period when verifying against the current system clock or the timestamp in the signed file.

System errors:
=============
Error: (12/29/2015 12:38:34 AM) (Source: Schannel) (User: NT AUTHORITY)
Description: The following fatal alert was generated: 10. The internal error state is 10.

Error: (12/29/2015 12:19:41 AM) (Source: Schannel) (User: NT AUTHORITY)
Description: The following fatal alert was generated: 10. The internal error state is 10.

Error: (12/29/2015 12:19:38 AM) (Source: Schannel) (User: NT AUTHORITY)
Description: The following fatal alert was generated: 10. The internal error state is 10.

Error: (12/29/2015 12:19:34 AM) (Source: Schannel) (User: NT AUTHORITY)
Description: The following fatal alert was generated: 10. The internal error state is 10.

Error: (12/28/2015 10:40:26 PM) (Source: Service Control Manager) (User: )
Description: The Windows Update service did not shut down properly after receiving a preshutdown control.

Error: (12/28/2015 10:20:44 PM) (Source: NetBT) (User: )
Description: The name "BOB-PC         :20" could not be registered on the interface with IP address 192.168.1.5.
The computer with the IP address 192.168.1.6 did not allow the name to be claimed by
this computer.

Error: (12/28/2015 10:20:44 PM) (Source: Server) (User: )
Description: The server could not bind to the transport \Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{398C3DFC-0DC9-4DC1-9BD6-F924CB858050} because another computer on the network has the same name.  The server could not start.

Error: (12/28/2015 10:20:44 PM) (Source: NetBT) (User: )
Description: The name "BOB-PC         :0" could not be registered on the interface with IP address 192.168.1.5.
The computer with the IP address 192.168.1.6 did not allow the name to be claimed by
this computer.

Error: (12/28/2015 10:18:14 PM) (Source: NetBT) (User: )
Description: The name "BOB-PC         :20" could not be registered on the interface with IP address 192.168.1.5.
The computer with the IP address 192.168.1.6 did not allow the name to be claimed by
this computer.

Error: (12/28/2015 10:18:13 PM) (Source: NetBT) (User: )
Description: The name "BOB-PC         :0" could not be registered on the interface with IP address 192.168.1.5.
The computer with the IP address 192.168.1.6 did not allow the name to be claimed by
this computer.

Microsoft Office Sessions:
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Error: (12/29/2015 12:43:24 AM) (Source: WinMgmt)(User: )
Description: //./root/CIMV2SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 990x80041003

Error: (12/28/2015 10:43:47 PM) (Source: WinMgmt)(User: )
Description: //./root/CIMV2SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 990x80041003

Error: (12/28/2015 10:22:28 PM) (Source: WinMgmt)(User: )
Description: //./root/CIMV2SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 990x80041003

Error: (12/28/2015 10:19:57 PM) (Source: WinMgmt)(User: )
Description: //./root/CIMV2SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 990x80041003

Error: (12/28/2015 04:34:06 PM) (Source: WinMgmt)(User: )
Description: //./root/CIMV2SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 990x80041003

Error: (12/28/2015 01:39:09 PM) (Source: WinMgmt)(User: )
Description: //./root/CIMV2SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 990x80041003

Error: (12/28/2015 01:14:47 PM) (Source: WinMgmt)(User: )
Description: //./root/CIMV2SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 990x80041003

Error: (12/28/2015 07:12:38 AM) (Source: WinMgmt)(User: )
Description: //./root/CIMV2SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32_Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 990x80041003

Error: (12/28/2015 03:34:29 AM) (Source: Microsoft-Windows-CAPI2)(User: )
Description: http://www.download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3/static/trustedr/en/authrootstl.cabA required certificate is not within its validity period when verifying against the current system clock or the timestamp in the signed file.

Error: (12/28/2015 03:34:29 AM) (Source: Microsoft-Windows-CAPI2)(User: )
Description: http://www.download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3/static/trustedr/en/authrootstl.cabA required certificate is not within its validity period when verifying against the current system clock or the timestamp in the signed file.

=========================== Installed Programs ============================
Adobe Flash Player 20 ActiveX (HKLM-x32\...\Adobe Flash Player ActiveX) (Version: 20.0.0.267 - Adobe Systems Incorporated)
AX88772B Windows 7 Drivers (HKLM-x32\...\{54A168C9-2250-4058-80EB-1F4A4192548A}) (Version: 1.0.4.0 - ASIX Electronics Corporation) Hidden
AX88772B Windows 7 Drivers (HKLM-x32\...\InstallShield_{54A168C9-2250-4058-80EB-1F4A4192548A}) (Version: 1.0.4.0 - ASIX Electronics Corporation)
Mozilla Firefox 43.0.3 (x86 en-US) (HKLM-x32\...\Mozilla Firefox 43.0.3 (x86 en-US)) (Version: 43.0.3 - Mozilla)
Mozilla Maintenance Service (HKLM-x32\...\MozillaMaintenanceService) (Version: 43.0.3 - Mozilla)

========================= Memory info: ===================================
Percentage of memory in use: 83%
Total physical RAM: 2038.43 MB
Available physical RAM: 330.09 MB
Total Virtual: 4076.86 MB
Available Virtual: 2211.59 MB

========================= Partitions: =====================================
1 Drive c: () (Fixed) (Total:465.66 GB) (Free:452.78 GB) NTFS

========================= Users: ========================================
User accounts for \\BOB-PC

Administrator            Bob                      Guest                    


**** End of log ****


Edited by hamluis, 29 December 2015 - 09:55 AM.


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Posted 29 December 2015 - 10:34 AM

Appears to me that system is not necessarily capable of running Win 7 64-bit.  Did you run the Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor - Download - Microsoft Windows - http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/downloads/upgrade-advisor ?

 

Do you have a valid license to install Win 7 on this system?

 

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Posted 29 December 2015 - 11:19 AM

System requirements for Windows 7.

 

1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor.
1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit)
16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)
DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver.
 
Looking at the Speccy it looks like this computer meets the system requirements.
 
You have the following error:  A copy of the CTL with an expired signing certificate exists in the CryptnetUrlCache folder.
 
Go to Microsoft Support and use their Fix it for Windows 7.

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Posted 29 December 2015 - 07:58 PM

I've applied the fix dc3 suggestion.. I can't tell if it's worked yet or not. Typically when I do a windows install I just start it checking for updates and walk away for a while since the first check seems to take forever anyway. How long should I wait before I consider it stuck or unresponsive?

 

For the record my License is Valid. It is a Technet copy of Windows 7 Pro with SP1 if that makes a difference. I still have plenty of unused keys left over from when having a technet subscription meant something.



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Posted 29 December 2015 - 08:38 PM

FWIW:  Regarding Technet Licenses .

 

Those Technet licenses were never intended to be anything more than evaluation licenses for a given/limited time period.  They are not substitutes for retail or OEM licenses, as I read all that I can find on Technet licenses...including the fact that "the change" took place 3 years ago.

 

https://technet.microsoft.com/subscriptions/default.aspx

 

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Posted 29 December 2015 - 09:49 PM

Technet keys from before three years ago are worth their weight in gold. They don't expire.



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Posted 29 December 2015 - 09:49 PM

generally it shouldn't take longer than 15 minutes... if it does I will usually .old the C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution folder (you will need to stop the windows update service), run disk cleanup all items checked, restart, then update again



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Posted 29 December 2015 - 11:59 PM

The Machine is still checking for updates. I don't understand. Windows is activated and shows as Genuine, I've run both of the suggested Microsoft fixes and Complete Internet Repair (reboots between each try.) :smash:

I don;t know what else it could be other than some bit of hardware that Windows 7 doesn't like...



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Posted 30 December 2015 - 03:39 AM

also a very oldschool, lame, cool trick to try is turn off automatic updates, reboot, set auto updates to manual, reboot, run the update windows yourself.

 

the reason this works is that automatic update starts runnning and then you jump in and press the update windows and then the requests start fighting each other.



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Posted 30 December 2015 - 07:07 AM

I had that problem with Windows Updates this month. I solved it by killing the GWX process under All Users. Give that a try.

GWX is Get Windows 10....


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Posted 30 December 2015 - 02:41 PM

Angryraisin: I'll give that a shot! Buddy: It's a fresh install of windows 7 so the GWX process doesn't exist yet. I don't think the machine will handle windows 10 anyway.

 

I've been able to manually  install IE11, Silverlight and MSE without a problem, and when they need additional updates their installers had no problem getting them. I've also resorted to using WSUS Offline to CRAM UPDATES DOWN IT'S THROAT :ranting: But even that's only been partially successful.


Edited by Evolution13, 30 December 2015 - 02:52 PM.


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Posted 30 December 2015 - 02:53 PM

I think Microsoft Update servers are really overtaxed or are giving priority to Windows 10 updates. On a couple of Windows 7 computers I had to wait for a very long time. It reminds me of the time XP updates were taking forever to download manually when it was near it's end of life.

 

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/windows-update-long-time-to-check-for-updates.379435/

 

Edit: Stuff like this pushes me more and more to linux.


Edited by JohnC_21, 30 December 2015 - 02:57 PM.





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