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#1 pcpunk

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Posted 20 December 2015 - 09:10 PM

Need help guys, stuck in the middle of installing Retro in Frugal Mode onto separate partition and it is asking me to Edit Grub or something and don't know what to do. This is not as easy as it was all said to be? 
 
Can't find the Grub file it is asking me to edit.  Now if I shut down don't know if I will be able to boot anything?  Below is the last Window I see except for the Text to edit grub.  I cannot find the "menu.lst" file it is asking me to edit.
 
Thought the Frugal install would be the easiest, perhaps I was wrong.
 
I have this at the Puppy Site also but all must be sleeping there.
 
 
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Posted 20 December 2015 - 09:15 PM

Try this

How to install Puppy Linux (frugal) and configure Grub2 bootloader

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Posted 20 December 2015 - 09:23 PM

I'm on it Nick, thanks!


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Posted 21 December 2015 - 07:34 AM

Thought the Frugal install would be the easiest, perhaps I was wrong.


I've never done a "full" install of Puppy, but I'm guessing that it would probably be detected by Grub2 in Mint when you update it (because Grub2 searches partitions for operating systems); whereas a frugal installation isn't detected by Grub2 (because Grub2 doesn't search directories for operating systems), which is why we have to edit /etc/grub.d/40_custom manually when installing Puppy frugally. (Grub2 doesn't have a menu.lst file)

All the frugal "installer" on Puppy does is copy some files from the CD (or USB) to your the installation directory (which can also be done manually). It doesn't interfere with the MBR or existing bootloader, so there is no chance of it leaving your system un-bootable.

I'm surprised the Puppy installer hasn't been updated since Grub2 was released, as there can't be many folk using the old version of Grub or Grub4Dos nowadays.

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 11:08 AM

That was a good description Al...thanks! 

 

Now having another issue, puppy won't boot but does show up on the Grub Menu list.  I'm sure I did something wrong...like Forgot to assign " / " to the Puppy File when it was created, here is the Error I'm getting:

 

"no argument specified"

 

"file not found"

 

"you need to load the kernel first"

 

I am being brief as I see you here, if more info is needed just shoot!


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Posted 21 December 2015 - 11:19 AM

Are you using Grub2 bootloader?

If so, can you post the entry for Puppy from the /etc/grub.d/40_custom file?

Also, please mount the Puppy partition (I am assuming it's on the computer you are currently using - easiest way to mount it is just to click on it in File Manager), then post the output of:
 
ls /media/yourusername/yourpuppypartition/
...swapping "yourusername" for your user name, and "yourpuppypartition" for the name of the partition you have Puppy on (as it appears in /media/yourusername)

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 11:27 AM

Are you using Grub2 bootloader?  I assume so, I followed your directions in the Tutorial.

If so, can you post the entry for Puppy from the /etc/grub.d/40_custom file?  Not sure what this means?

Also, please mount the Puppy partition (I am assuming it's on the computer you are currently using - easiest way to mount it is just to click on it in File Manager), then post the output of:  I will do this now, had to fire up the beast, on other lappy now.
 

ls /media/yourusername/yourpuppypartition/
...swapping "yourusername" for your user name, and "yourpuppypartition" for the name of the partition you have Puppy on (as it appears in /media/yourusername)

 


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Posted 21 December 2015 - 11:35 AM

Not sure what this means?


I meant just copy and paste what you typed (and/or copied) into the file, into a post here. Alternatively, you could just post the entire content of the file:
 
cat /etc/grub.d/40_custom
...copy and paste the output into a post here.

Edited by Al1000, 21 December 2015 - 11:37 AM.


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Posted 21 December 2015 - 11:39 AM

I see the problem Al!  How did I do that.  Now how do I fix, just replace it with the proper file and Save huh?

 

Here is 40_custom.save which is clearly wrong.  But the 40_custom below is right?

 
title Puppy Linux 5.7.1 frugal in sda7 dir precise5.7.1frugal
rootnoverify (hd0,6)
kernel /precise5.7.1frugal/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd psubdir=precise5.7.1frugal
initrd /precise5.7.1frugal/initrd.gz
 
Okay this is where I am confused, I also have this one, and it is right!
 
This one is: 40_custom
 
menuentry 'Puppy Linux 5.7.1'{
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 35861152-0a2c-48fb-a74e-23b41814ceb5
linux /precise5.7.1frugal/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd psubdir=precise5.7.1frugal
initrd /precise5.7.1frugal/initrd.gz
}

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 11:49 AM

I should have said "40_custom" is what "40_custom.save" should have been right?


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Posted 21 December 2015 - 11:51 AM

Also, now that I look at it closer it looks like I missed a space after the 1'(and the Bracket)     "5.7.1'{

 

menuentry 'Puppy Linux 5.7.1'{
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 35861152-0a2c-48fb-a74e-23b41814ceb5
linux /precise5.7.1frugal/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd psubdir=precise5.7.1frugal
initrd /precise5.7.1frugal/initrd.gz
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Posted 21 December 2015 - 12:00 PM

I should mention that I am planning on re-installing Mint Xfce 13, and going to something that works better, like LXLE or the newer Xfce.  Don't know if that matters, but it seems now I need to find some grub files to replace the ones I deleted in "custom_40" O-boy.


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Posted 21 December 2015 - 12:06 PM

I should also mention, I have Timeshift installed if needed.  I will loose some stuff but it wont' matter as I am reinstalling Mint 13 at some point.

 

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Posted 21 December 2015 - 12:06 PM

Your /etc/grub.d/40_custom file looks ok. I just tried changing one of my Puppy entries in my /etc/grub.d/40_custom file to exclude the space you missed, updated grub and it booted into Puppy fine, so the space doesn't seem to matter.

I'm not sure why you have a "40_custom.save" file. The content looks like the menu entry for an old menu.lst file.

If you can post the output of:

cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | grep 40_custom*
...we can ensure that Grub is using the correct file.

What is the output of:

ls /media/yourusername/yourpuppypartition/


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Posted 21 December 2015 - 12:28 PM

pcpunk:

If you didn't change the default settings in Timeshift, you will not lose your personal files (Pictures, Documents,...)

Also GRUB will be reloaded.  B)

 

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