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#1 Retrauk

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 01:12 AM

Lately, while playing games my keyboard has been acting up. Keys will act as if they're stuck when they aren't, sometimes the actions are delayed, sometimes they don't work at all. It's making it impossible for me to play any game that I've tested this on (TF2, Binding of Isaac, Minecraft, etc.)

 

I've tried restarting my computer, cleaning out my keyboard, and checking the drivers and I can't find the issue. I'm on an HP laptop if it's any help at all.



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#2 Jaycan

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 02:25 AM

Hi -
Just for a bit more information, please follow these ideas ..

Please download MiniToolBox  and save it to your desktop to run it.
 Checkmark the following checkboxes:;

  • List last 10 Event Viewer log
  • List Installed Programs
  • List Users, Partitions and Memory size.

Click Go and copy / paste the content into your next post.
 
Also...please Publish a Snapshot using Speccy - , < Full directions are listed, taking care to post the link of the snapshot in your next post.

 

We may get a few more ideas on your problems.

 

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#3 Retrauk

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Posted 16 December 2015 - 03:38 AM

http://speccy.piriform.com/results/JyMrwWbh2rE5QtjJa5vacUW for the Speccy snapshot. The Minitoolbox stuff is all below.

 

 

MiniToolBox by Farbar  Version: 02-11-2015
Ran by Adam (administrator) on 16-12-2015 at 01:30:24
Running from "C:\Users\Adam\Documents"
Microsoft Windows 8  (X64)
Model: HP Pavilion 15 Notebook PC Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
Boot Mode: Normal
***************************************************************************
 
========================= Event log errors: ===============================
 
Application errors:
==================
Error: (12/15/2015 03:50:41 AM) (Source: Bonjour Service) (User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: m->NextScheduledSPRetry 15632
 
Error: (12/15/2015 03:50:41 AM) (Source: Bonjour Service) (User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: m->NextScheduledEvent 15632
 
Error: (12/15/2015 03:50:38 AM) (Source: Bonjour Service) (User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: Continuously busy for more than a second
 
Error: (12/14/2015 04:37:57 AM) (Source: Bonjour Service) (User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: m->NextScheduledSPRetry 15616
 
Error: (12/14/2015 04:37:57 AM) (Source: Bonjour Service) (User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: m->NextScheduledEvent 15616
 
Error: (12/14/2015 04:37:56 AM) (Source: Bonjour Service) (User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: Continuously busy for more than a second
 
Error: (12/13/2015 10:31:05 PM) (Source: Application Hang) (User: )
Description: The program isaac-ng.exe version 0.0.0.0 stopped interacting with Windows and was closed. To see if more information about the problem is available, check the problem history in the Action Center control panel.
 
Process ID: 3a5c
 
Start Time: 01d1362d9a1013ab
 
Termination Time: 76
 
Application Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\The Binding of Isaac Rebirth\isaac-ng.exe
 
Report Id: dcbc9526-a223-11e5-bee1-8056f26e7c14
 
Faulting package full name: 
 
Faulting package-relative application ID:
 
Error: (12/13/2015 01:09:05 PM) (Source: Bonjour Service) (User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: m->NextScheduledSPRetry 29938230
 
Error: (12/13/2015 01:09:05 PM) (Source: Bonjour Service) (User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: m->NextScheduledEvent 29938230
 
Error: (12/13/2015 01:09:05 PM) (Source: Bonjour Service) (User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: Continuously busy for more than a second
 
 
System errors:
=============
Error: (12/15/2015 02:05:44 PM) (Source: Service Control Manager) (User: )
Description: A timeout was reached (30000 milliseconds) while waiting for the Windows Error Reporting Service service to connect.
 
Error: (12/15/2015 02:03:15 PM) (Source: Service Control Manager) (User: )
Description: The Steam Client Service service failed to start due to the following error: 
%%1053
 
Error: (12/15/2015 02:03:15 PM) (Source: Service Control Manager) (User: )
Description: A timeout was reached (30000 milliseconds) while waiting for the Steam Client Service service to connect.
 
Error: (12/15/2015 02:01:03 PM) (Source: Service Control Manager) (User: )
Description: The HP Support Assistant Service service failed to start due to the following error: 
%%1053
 
Error: (12/15/2015 02:01:03 PM) (Source: Service Control Manager) (User: )
Description: A timeout was reached (30000 milliseconds) while waiting for the HP Support Assistant Service service to connect.
 
Error: (12/15/2015 01:56:54 PM) (Source: Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-General) (User: NT AUTHORITY)
Description: 0xc000014d0
 
Error: (12/15/2015 01:50:50 PM) (Source: Service Control Manager) (User: )
Description: A timeout (30000 milliseconds) was reached while waiting for a transaction response from the DACoreService service.
 
Error: (12/15/2015 01:50:50 PM) (Source: Service Control Manager) (User: )
Description: A timeout (30000 milliseconds) was reached while waiting for a transaction response from the hpqwmiex service.
 
Error: (12/15/2015 01:50:13 PM) (Source: Service Control Manager) (User: )
Description: A timeout (30000 milliseconds) was reached while waiting for a transaction response from the Appinfo service.
 
Error: (12/12/2015 07:55:15 PM) (Source: Service Control Manager) (User: )
Description: The HPWMISVC service is marked as an interactive service.  However, the system is configured to not allow interactive services.  This service may not function properly.
 
 
Microsoft Office Sessions:
=========================
Error: (12/15/2015 03:50:41 AM) (Source: Bonjour Service)(User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: m->NextScheduledSPRetry 15632
 
Error: (12/15/2015 03:50:41 AM) (Source: Bonjour Service)(User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: m->NextScheduledEvent 15632
 
Error: (12/15/2015 03:50:38 AM) (Source: Bonjour Service)(User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: Continuously busy for more than a second
 
Error: (12/14/2015 04:37:57 AM) (Source: Bonjour Service)(User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: m->NextScheduledSPRetry 15616
 
Error: (12/14/2015 04:37:57 AM) (Source: Bonjour Service)(User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: m->NextScheduledEvent 15616
 
Error: (12/14/2015 04:37:56 AM) (Source: Bonjour Service)(User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: Continuously busy for more than a second
 
Error: (12/13/2015 10:31:05 PM) (Source: Application Hang)(User: )
Description: isaac-ng.exe0.0.0.03a5c01d1362d9a1013ab76C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\The Binding of Isaac Rebirth\isaac-ng.exedcbc9526-a223-11e5-bee1-8056f26e7c14
 
Error: (12/13/2015 01:09:05 PM) (Source: Bonjour Service)(User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: m->NextScheduledSPRetry 29938230
 
Error: (12/13/2015 01:09:05 PM) (Source: Bonjour Service)(User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: m->NextScheduledEvent 29938230
 
Error: (12/13/2015 01:09:05 PM) (Source: Bonjour Service)(User: )
Description: Task Scheduling Error: Continuously busy for more than a second
 
 
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Posted 16 December 2015 - 09:55 AM

You have both Avast! and Norton Internet Security installed.  You need to uninstall one of these.

 

IMPORTANT NOTE: Using more than one anti-virus program is not advisable. Why? The primary concern with doing so is due to Windows resource management and significant conflicts that can arise especially when they are running in real-time protection mode simultaneously. Even if one of them is disabled for use as a stand-alone on demand scanner, it can affect the other and cause conflicts. Anti-virus software components insert themselves deep into the operating systems core where they install kernel mode drivers that load at boot-up regardless of whether real-time protection is enabled or not. Thus, using multiple anti-virus solutions can result in kernel mode conflicts causing system instability, catastrophic crashes, slow performance and waste vital system resources. When actively running in the background while connected to the Internet, each anti-virus may try to update their definition databases at the same time. As the programs compete for resources required to download the necessary files this often can result in sluggish system performance or unresponsive behavior.
 
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If you are not using Bonjour you should uninstall it.
 
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Posted 16 December 2015 - 12:59 PM

I uninstalled both Norton and Bonjour, and I checked the stickykeys thing as well. It did fix a small, unrelated performance issue I was having, but my keyboard problem is still unsolved.



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Posted 16 December 2015 - 01:03 PM

Retrauk,

 

          See the thread entitled, Hard Keyboard Issue.

 

          I have had a client who had some really bizarre keyboard issues going on that from all appearances were related to some sort of corruption in the "mini" hibernation file used by the Fast Boot feature.


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Posted 16 December 2015 - 01:24 PM

Retrauk,

 

          See the thread entitled, Hard Keyboard Issue.

 

          I have had a client who had some really bizarre keyboard issues going on that from all appearances were related to some sort of corruption in the "mini" hibernation file used by the Fast Boot feature.

I actually noticed the thread earlier, but I didn't see anything about fast boot in the advanced power settings on my laptop. How would I go about changing the settings and potentially fixing it? If it helps any, my laptop is set to go to Sleep mode when the lid is shut at the moment.



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Posted 16 December 2015 - 01:30 PM

Go to PC Settings -> Control Panel and open the Power Options.

 

When you have Power Options open, click on the link at the left side related to setting what the power button does.

 

At the top of the Power Button dialog, there is a link that says "Change settings that are currently unavailable."  If the Shutdown settings at the bottom of the dialog are either not shown or are stippled out then click it to give you access to those settings.

 

The first item in that list should be "Turn on fast startup (recommended)" and it will be checked by default. Uncheck it and save your changes.

 

Shut your computer down then restart and see if that fixes anything.


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Posted 16 December 2015 - 02:18 PM

Go to PC Settings -> Control Panel and open the Power Options.

 

When you have Power Options open, click on the link at the left side related to setting what the power button does.

 

At the top of the Power Button dialog, there is a link that says "Change settings that are currently unavailable."  If the Shutdown settings at the bottom of the dialog are either not shown or are stippled out then click it to give you access to those settings.

 

The first item in that list should be "Turn on fast startup (recommended)" and it will be checked by default. Uncheck it and save your changes.

 

Shut your computer down then restart and see if that fixes anything.

Just tried it. It did not fix the issue.



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Posted 16 December 2015 - 04:20 PM

Sorry to hear that.  I hope that someone else can lead you to the solution.

 

Have you tried plugging in an external USB keyboard to see if the behaviors are the same?  That might give you a bit more insight as to what may be happening.


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Posted 16 December 2015 - 04:39 PM

Sorry to hear that.  I hope that someone else can lead you to the solution.

 

Have you tried plugging in an external USB keyboard to see if the behaviors are the same?  That might give you a bit more insight as to what may be happening.

I have not, but I plan to as soon as I find one I can use.



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Posted 16 December 2015 - 05:01 PM

Sorry to hear that.  I hope that someone else can lead you to the solution.

 

Have you tried plugging in an external USB keyboard to see if the behaviors are the same?  That might give you a bit more insight as to what may be happening.

I tried using an external keyboard and the issue does not seem to be present while using it.



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Posted 16 December 2015 - 05:23 PM

Retrauk,

 

        Based on your use of the word, "lately," in your first post and the information that's followed since I believe (and that's all it is, belief based on available information) you either have a dirty keyboard that blasting with air won't clean and/or a well-used keyboard that's finally at the end of its life and has started going wonky.  Is the keyboard used frequently, and vigorously, as part of gaming or otherwise?  Has there ever been a spill on the keyboard that you had to blot up?  How old is the machine itself?

 

        I don't know precisely which HP Pavilion 15 model you have, there are scads, so I don't know whether removing your keyboard is a simple matter or a "you must disassemble half of the computer before you can remove it" matter.

 

        Once you have exhausted all non-keyboard-hardware related options I would suggest removing your keyboard then (what follows will be shocking to many) running the thing through a full cycle in the dishwasher if possible.  I have seen a lot of keyboards, both laptop and regular, that have collected so much dust and crud that's holding on that no amount of air cleaning will fix it.  There's nothing particularly sensitive electronically in a keyboard and I've run more than one through the dishwasher to see if that remedied the problem.  When I worked in a computer lab once that did not forbid having soft drinks during long hours of work this was the regular routine for keyboards that had had major spills into them.  You simply have to make sure that you don't subject it to a heated dry cycle and that you allow it several days to dry completely before you even think of reinstalling it to test it.  If you've got a spare external keyboard to tide you over this is an option you could try.  I actually just did this with keyboard on an old Dell laptop that had a couple of keys that inexplicably stopped working and that were ones that are not a part of the "commonly struck keys" collection.  It worked.

 

         If the above seemingly crazy suggestion doesn't work, then it's time for a replacement keyboard.  These are not generally all that expensive and can be sourced on eBay and Amazon with ease.


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Posted 16 December 2015 - 06:33 PM

an important clarifications to Brian's suggestion:

Don't use detergent (you'd think that'd be obvious. . . but I've been proven wrong on that assumption before).

Edited by Blade, 16 December 2015 - 06:36 PM.
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Posted 16 December 2015 - 06:54 PM

an important clarifications to Brian's suggestion:

Don't use detergent (you'd think that'd be obvious. . . but I've been proven wrong on that assumption before).

 

           Actually I've done it both ways.  The only time I've seen a "bad outcome" was with granulated detergent many years ago.  The last batch that I did were definitely in with the dishes and went through the whole cycle with detergent included.  I never use a heated dry, but many do, and you *can't* do that (or at least you can't in many dishwashers if these are on the lower tray near to the heating element).


Brian  AKA  Bri the Tech Guy (website in my user profile) - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1803, Build 17134 

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