Except copy paste! Somehow has urge to resist the smiley ! Has anyone else ever folowed dirrections even if they werent like even yours, and downloaded stuff that produced results but found you werent imediately blessed with knowlege of knowing what you were looking at let alone if the problem was the same or articulate WHAT exactly was the problem, if kinda like trying to explain about invisible ninjas? Or is it just me this happens to? Well thats a new topic hopefully. I'll just say Hi everybody, noting everybodies hi's.