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#1 pcpunk

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Posted 30 November 2015 - 07:49 PM

Will someone explain to me the best way to install Flash Player for FireFox if a person does not use Google Chrome?

I use Chrome, so from what I've read...and been told here by at least cat1092 and probably more - FireFox will somehow use the Pepperflashplugin that is included with Chrome to play video like in youtube.

Have also read that Flashplayer should be installed via official ubuntu site or from the Adobe site as a .tar.gz file.  Then I see others trying to install various things from the Terminal.  As usual it is all very daunting to understand.

Was also testing this out via. LiveUSB, and could not install the .tar.gz file from ubuntu source page.  I'm quite sure I was doing it wrong as I have read up on it more since, think I got that part now, but is that the beat way?  I was however able to drop the Debian Folder contents from the tar.gz file into the Mozilla Plugins Folder, and that seemed to install it, at least temporarily.

Another interesting observation, is Ubuntu distro's don't seem to have an issue with playing video's in youtube from liveusb.  In Mint, I have to "Allow The Outdated Plugin" to watch vids, but not so in Ubuntu.

Another question, how do I check which version is installed, this is what I tried in LiveUSB but did not work:

dpkg -l | grep flash


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Posted 30 November 2015 - 09:16 PM

 

Another question, how do I check which version is installed, this is what I tried in LiveUSB but did not work:

Its 11.2 on Linux, and you only get security updates.

 

 

Was also testing this out via. LiveUSB, and could not install the .tar.gz file from ubuntu source page

Without persistence a Live USB is read only, same as a Live CD or DVD.

 

 

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We have covered flash player a few times now with you, Maybe you should go back and look at some of your old posts.


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Posted 30 November 2015 - 09:47 PM

No still do chrome, if you are against google products chromium is also available as is pepperflash standalone.

Flash is dead on linux, so use what you can even if it might be something you dont like.


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Posted 30 November 2015 - 10:46 PM

Gnash and Lightspark.



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Posted 30 November 2015 - 10:49 PM

Here look... I even dug up a quote sort of how to thingy for you.

 

 

It will ultimately require two: Gnash and Lightspark. The two projects cover different versions of the Flash specification; Gnash is the more mature project, and supports Flash content up to version 8. Version 9 of Flash debuted sporting a rewritten version of ActionScript based on an entirely different virtual machine model; Lightspark implements this newer framework.

Download Gnash from http://www.getgnash.org/packages/

Download Lightspark from https://launchpad.net/lightspark/+download

To install Lightspark in Ubuntu

sudo apt-get update

sudo apt-get install lightspark browser-plugin-lightspark

Read the article for more information.

To install gnash

 sudo apt-get install browser-plugin-gnash


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Posted 30 November 2015 - 10:57 PM

Gnash is dead, but there is Shumway too.



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Posted 30 November 2015 - 11:11 PM

Thanks TsVk!,  I seen some of that in my browsing.  This is not something I have to have just want to know more about it.  Also thought it would be better security if browsing while in LiveUSB, if watching video's.  Ubuntu is all good I think, just Mint is way out of date.


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Posted 30 November 2015 - 11:21 PM

They are old projects all... security not to be found even though you can find usability.



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Posted 01 December 2015 - 01:17 AM

Gnash is dead, but there is Shumway too.

 

Gnash never worked, and lightspark seems to be the same ordeal.

Shumway is slow going, so yes flash still holds strong as does chrome and pipelight


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Posted 01 December 2015 - 02:15 AM

 

 

I use Chrome, so from what I've read...and been told here by at least cat1092 and probably more - FireFox will somehow use the Pepperflashplugin that is included with Chrome to play video like in youtube.

 

pcpunk, you've quoted me wrong, my friend. :)

 

What I said was that if Google Chrome was installed, then one has the needed Flash Player for Opera, I believe this was in one of Paul's Topics. I've read about various workarounds for the latest Firefox flash player, but have not attempted any of these, as I didn't know the sources of the articles. 

 

Hope this clears the matter up. :thumbup2:

 

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Posted 01 December 2015 - 12:34 PM

Yes cat, thanks for the clarification.  I guess it's not that big a deal, but I was infected once and think this is why, perhaps it would not have mattered if I clicked on something bad.  I was using LiveDVD on dual boot with W7 and watching all kinds of video, and then was on one linux website that I did not know, clicked on a link to a so called FIX/ANSWER which put me on a Porn Site, and after that my W7 was borked.

 

And, was always annoyed by that "Binocular" in FireFox asking me to "Allow" lol, scary when that happens.  Whenever I see a Warning like that I'm like "What?" is that all about, and want to know more about it.  I think I understand enough about it now and have read quite a lot on the subject.  

 

At the least - I think I'll install the .tar.gz from adobe to update it on my test machine first - as the one installed is WAY out of date. Luckily I don't use FF much, but do download all my iso's from there as you know.  I know that shouldn't be an issue with iso's but still use the browser sometimes.  Another reason for me is my recent high usage of LivelinuxUSB's, and do a lot of researching while using them.  So was trying to avoid Installing Chromium AND pepper just to use the internet safely.

 

 

 

 

Another question, how do I check which version is installed, this is what I tried in LiveUSB but did not work:

 

Its 11.2 on Linux, and you only get security updates.  Don't believe this is right Nick, I see Version 1.20151110.1 in Software Manager.  This is part of the purpose of this Tread.  I have tried all kinds of commands to update it but can't, at least in LiveEnvironment.  I think it needs to be done by installing  via. tar.gz.  There are other work-around's but I will stick with the Adobe site if I do this.  Did not try it on Main pc yet because of all the conflicting info. out there, but will go with the tar.gz when I do.

 

 

Was also testing this out via. LiveUSB, and could not install the .tar.gz file from ubuntu source page

 

Without persistence a Live USB is read only, same as a Live CD or DVD.

Not sure what you mean by this because I install stuff all the time? even Google Chrome!  I found better instructions for .tar.gz...finally?

 

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Posted 01 December 2015 - 03:49 PM

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Posted 01 December 2015 - 03:57 PM

for the original question .I found this  for you Ubuntu types 

 

http://www.webupd8.org/2015/01/fresh-player-plugin-sees-new-release.html



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Posted 01 December 2015 - 07:10 PM

Thanks shadow, I read about this along with many others.  It looks good but read some bad things about it also, so don't know what to think about it.  I think I will install the tar.gz from adobe.  I think FireFox uses pepperflashplugin-nonfree somehow.  I seem to be able to use FF AFTER installing Chromium then pepperflash, need to double check that because my liveusb was acting up last night.

 

I will read that link though so thanks, that is one of the top hits for this.  Read so much on this now my head is spinning, and most of it junk i think.  Seems as though this can be done many ways.


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Posted 02 December 2015 - 04:18 AM

 

I knew that Adobe Flash Player's days were numbered, though it has taken more time than some expected, it's better to wait & have a better product than to deliver & have a buggy one. Both Mozilla & Opera, don't know about the latter as of late, the original Opera (not the one of today) had been working on HTML5 for many years, will be glad to see their actions pay off. It's sad that the ones who purchased Opera (basically a holding company), whom has turned the browser into a sinking ship, will attempt to take credit for work that they didn't really participate in, at least nowhere near the level as the original owners, after which it became a customized Chromium browser. 

 

It's also unfortunate that Adobe is still involved in this, and when the smoke clears, they may be, but only because their pockets are deep. Also noteworthy in the article is the reference to Microsoft Edge, which shows the side calling the shots here. It shouldn't be Microsoft nor Adobe, rather Mozilla that has worked on HTML5 long before Adobe or Microsoft laid their hands on the technology. This is exactly how Microsoft has done over the years (same with Secure Boot), basically taking over a technology that they had little part in developing & calling it their own. That's how business works. 

 

It'll be interesting to see if Linux Firefox versions will receive the same support as the Windows variant of the browser. Mozilla has been open source since it's inception, and deserves the same support, regardless of OS it installed on. If Linux isn't supported the same as Microsoft, then we'll know why, it's a matter of who has the deepest cash reserves. Which brings up another question, where is Canonical in all of this & what are they doing to help? Their cash reserves are a little deep also, they should be flexing their muscle in this matter to ensure that Ubuntu & it's derivatives has the same Flash replacement that Windows & Mac users will receive. 

 

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