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#1 joe600

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Posted 21 November 2015 - 08:43 PM

my budget is 660 dollars and i am wondering if this is a good build i am planing on upgrading to the amd fx series and get a good graphics card but i dont have the money right now so i am planing on using this build until i get the money i plan on using this computer for gaming or atleast upgrade it for gaming if it cant do that right now is this build good?

 

proccessor amd athlon II 64 x2 280 dual-core 3.6ghz am3 proccessor 

 

cpu fan amd standard cooling cpu cooling fan

 

motherboard asus m5a78l-m/usb3 am3+ amd  760g hdmi usb 3.0 uatx amd motherboard

 

memory 4gb (1 x 4gb) 240-pin ddr3 1600mhz (pc3 12800) dual channel (high performance)

 

hard drive seagate / wd 1tb 7200 rpm 64mb cache sata 6.0gb/s

 

optical drive 24x dual layer dvd-rw

 

wifi wireless usb wifi adapter

 

case antec new solution series vsk-4000 black sgcc steel atx mid tower case 

 

power supply thermaltake 500 watt high perfomance power supply

 

monitor hp black 20" 7ms ips widescreen led-lcd monitor 

 

operating system windows 7 home premium

 



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Posted 22 November 2015 - 02:47 PM

This should do better: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6kHX8d
With a skylake pentium you will be able to upgrade to a i5 or i7, and an ssd will give you quick boot times.

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Posted 23 November 2015 - 09:52 AM

I'm assuming that is your current, non-upgraded PC.

 

I'd suggest holding off doing a completely new build until you have a little more money to spend on a new build.  If you are using this for gaming, you will need more for a good graphics card.

 

That said, you can upgrade your current setup to an FX CPU and a fairly high-end GPU.  According to the Asus website CPU support list here, the M5A78L-M/USB3 can physically handle most of the FX series CPU's.  The only downside to this is that you are using a non AMD 900-series chipset which will mean that some of the power saving features of the FX line will be unavailable, but core CPU functionality will be there.  You can get the AMD FX-8320 Vishera 8-Core 3.5GHz (Don't forget to update your BIOS) and pair it with a EVGA GeForce GTX 970 graphics card (Assuming it will fit and you have good 500W PSU) would be a substantial upgrade.  You can even splurge and get a Crucial BX200 2.5" 240GB to install the OS. 


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Posted 24 November 2015 - 01:48 AM

what about if i change the motherboard to the ASUS H81M-A LGA1150/ Intel H81/ DDR3/ SATA3&USB3.0/ A&GbE/ MicroATX Motherboard and get the Intel Core i3 Processor i3-4150 3.5GHz 3MB DUAL CORE i dont know how to build a computer yet


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Posted 24 November 2015 - 02:12 AM

i3-4150 processor is compatible with the H81 motherboard, because it is a Haswell Refresh CPU, you might have to update the BIOS first, otherwise get mobo with Intel H97 chipset.

 

If you don't know how to build a computer, you can ask someone who know how to build to help you, or have a computer shop to build it for you.


Edited by batman1234, 24 November 2015 - 02:14 AM.

CPU: Intel i7-8700K 5.3 GHz ------ RAM: 32GB TridentZ 3600 MHz CL16 ----- Motherboard: Asus ROG Maximus X Formula ----- GPU: Zotac GTX 1080 Ti Amp! Extreme ----- Storage: Samsung 960 Pro 1TB -- Samsung 850 Pro 2TB x4


#6 joe600

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Posted 24 November 2015 - 05:54 AM

does this motherboard have onboard graphics? http://www.computerlx.com/print_page.aspx?product_ID=2274 and does the i3-4150 have integrated graphics? and can i change motherboards?



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Posted 24 November 2015 - 08:12 AM

If you change out the motherboard on an already-existing build, you need to reinstall Windows.  If you are using a System Builder/OEM copy, this will invalidate the license because it is tied to one motherboard.  If you are using a full, boxed retail copy, it can be "Moved" to the other motherboard.

 

If that build in your initial post is your current build, you will get a better PC by swapping out the CPU, GPU, and use an SSD.  If that build above isn't your current build but one you're planning, I suggest saving money before buying and if you do, go for an Intel Skylake build.


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Posted 24 November 2015 - 04:28 PM

is it hard to build a computer for someone who hasnt done it yet could they mess up?



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Posted 24 November 2015 - 06:27 PM

 

is it hard to build a computer for someone who hasnt done it yet

Not hard if you do your homework first; like with anything, study up. There are tons of Youtube videos out there, some good but some poor, on how to do a build. After the 4th you view you will get a pretty good general idea of how it goes. Then ask individual questions here for further pointers. Most of the build is just plugging the proper things into the proper ports.

 

could they mess up

Of course you could. That doesn't mean the you can't fix it and get it straight. You have some of the best free help available right here, and we all like to help first-timers with their builds.

 

One of the biggest concerns you will face is selecting your components so that there are no system bottlenecks or conflicts of hardware. However, the sweat is well worth the experience and knowledge that you will gain; when a problem arises you will no longer have to depend on some schmo from across the ocean who works for the manufacturer's customer support telephone desk and is reading from a script book telling you garbage; you will be able to trouble-shoot your own problems if they arise because you will know what is under the hood. Another plus is the money you will save!


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Posted 24 November 2015 - 06:41 PM

what i am planing to get is a computer that can run sl decent or great does anyone know what parts i should look for to this again my budget is 660 dollars and i am looking for monitor and operating system included


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Posted 25 November 2015 - 07:43 AM

Oh!  I was a bit confused earlier.  I'm clear now, it's a new build. :)

 

About half of your budget is going to go towards a monitor and OS, leaving roughly $300 to $400 for the actual build.  This isn't going to go far with gaming, even on an AMD build.  I suggest budgeting $700 to $800 for this build, that said here is an idea for a complete build.

 

Motherboard:  ASUS M5A97 PLUS AM3+ AMD 970/SB950 - A basic, inexpensive motherboard.  $54

 

Case/Power Supply:  Antec Sonata III 500 - Quiet and includes a 500W power supply.  $119

 

RAM:  Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - You don't need much more RAM than this.  $38

 

OS:  Windows 10 Home Premium Full Version (Includes 32-bit and 64-bit Editions) - You need this.  The good thing with getting a full version is that it can be moved between motherboards, whereas the System Builder/OS cannot.  $119

 

Hard Drive:  WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB - You can't get too creative with storage on a budget build.  $44

 

CPU:  AMD FX-8320 Vishera 8-Core 3.5GHz - For an AMD PC, I don't suggest getting a weaker CPU than this.  You could get one of their six-core variants, but those aren't much less expensive.  $119

 

GPU:  ZOTAC GeForce GTX 950 OC - It isn't going to blow open the doors on performance, but is decent for most games.  $139

 

Monitor:  ASUS VS229H-P Black 21.5" - This is an IPS panel with a decent refresh rate.  $139

 

Grand Total:  $778

 

If you really need a disc reader, the ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/A can be bought for about $15.


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Posted 25 November 2015 - 08:10 AM

do the amd processors come with thermal paste and a cpu fan?



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Posted 25 November 2015 - 08:42 AM

The AMD processors come with thermal compound pre-applied.  Some aftermarket coolers, such as the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO, come with the thermal compound too.  If, for whatever reason, it doesn't, you can buy Arctic Silver for cheap.


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Posted 26 November 2015 - 08:52 AM

do i need to ground myself when putting the computer together?



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Posted 26 November 2015 - 10:02 PM

That would be recommended. Use a grounding strap or touch the psu now and then.

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