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#1 jimlau

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Posted 28 October 2015 - 06:54 PM

there is an xfinity hotspot nearby, which i can access on the patio, but not indoors. is there a way for me to boost the signal so i  can get it indoors?
 
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Posted 28 October 2015 - 11:07 PM

You can't boost the signal that the hotspot is broadcasting if you don't have physical access to it and control over it, but you could try a wireless repeater.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_repeater

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=wireless+repeater&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Awireless+repeater

 

Or a high gain wireless adapter.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=wireless+adapter+high+gain&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Awireless+adapter+high+gain


Edited by irvin_than_allyl, 28 October 2015 - 11:08 PM.


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Posted 29 October 2015 - 08:42 AM

when you say you can't boost the signal, are you saying those devices you mentioned may still get it to work?  I did try a netgear usb plug-in stick, but it didn't work.  are the antenna ones better?  thanks.


Edited by jimlau, 29 October 2015 - 08:44 AM.


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Posted 29 October 2015 - 09:28 AM

If you don't have physical control of an access point, you cannot configure it to increase the transmit power of the signal. However, you may be able to use a repeater, which connects to that access point, and rebroadcasts or repeats the signal. Set up the repeater on or near your patio, and you should be able to access the network inside.

 

Something like this

http://www.amazon.com/Alfa-AWUS036NH-802-11g-Wireless-Long-Range/dp/B003YIFHJY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1446128451&sr=8-1&keywords=Alpha+adapter

 

With one of these would probably be better than the netgear adapter. If the netgear has a coax plug so you can attach an external attena, you could probably improve the performance of it with just the Yagi antenna. What specific wifi interface is it?

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=yagi+antenna&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Ayagi+antenna

 

If you go this route, you'll want to make sure the access point in question, what you're referring to as a hot spot, is using 2.4 Ghz. You can use a tool called inSSIDer for that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InSSIDer

 

 

 

 

 

Are you able to stay connected to the access point directly on the inside near the patio?


Edited by irvin_than_allyl, 29 October 2015 - 09:39 AM.


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 12:25 PM

If you don't have physical control of an access point, you cannot configure it to increase the transmit power of the signal. However, you may be able to use a repeater, which connects to that access point, and rebroadcasts or repeats the signal. Set up the repeater on or near your patio, and you should be able to access the network inside.

 

Something like this

http://www.amazon.com/Alfa-AWUS036NH-802-11g-Wireless-Long-Range/dp/B003YIFHJY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1446128451&sr=8-1&keywords=Alpha+adapter

 

With one of these would probably be better than the netgear adapter. If the netgear has a coax plug so you can attach an external attena, you could probably improve the performance of it with just the Yagi antenna. What specific wifi interface is it?

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=yagi+antenna&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Ayagi+antenna

 

If you go this route, you'll want to make sure the access point in question, what you're referring to as a hot spot, is using 2.4 Ghz. You can use a tool called inSSIDer for that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InSSIDer

 

 

 

 

 

Are you able to stay connected to the access point directly on the inside near the patio?

apparently since I have no access to the originating router, I can't use a repeater, right?

btw, my tablet inside gets the signal, but not the pc with the usb adapter.  I don't have room to put a big antenna outside.  any suggestions on the best wireless adapter for a pc? my current netgear usb adapter has no coax or other interface. I just plug it into my pc.  thanks.


Edited by jimlau, 02 November 2015 - 12:42 PM.


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 04:12 PM

Try this setup out it might just work for you

 

http://www.ccrane.com/WiFi-Antennas-1/Super-WiFi-Repeater-System



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Posted 02 November 2015 - 05:35 PM

Let me get this straight you are trying to freeload on somebody elses internet connection that they are paying for the service and our membership is supposed to help you.  What next we teach classes on the best way to hack?????


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Posted 03 November 2015 - 10:20 PM

 

If you don't have physical control of an access point, you cannot configure it to increase the transmit power of the signal. However, you may be able to use a repeater, which connects to that access point, and rebroadcasts or repeats the signal. Set up the repeater on or near your patio, and you should be able to access the network inside.

 

Something like this

http://www.amazon.com/Alfa-AWUS036NH-802-11g-Wireless-Long-Range/dp/B003YIFHJY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1446128451&sr=8-1&keywords=Alpha+adapter

 

With one of these would probably be better than the netgear adapter. If the netgear has a coax plug so you can attach an external attena, you could probably improve the performance of it with just the Yagi antenna. What specific wifi interface is it?

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=yagi+antenna&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Ayagi+antenna

 

If you go this route, you'll want to make sure the access point in question, what you're referring to as a hot spot, is using 2.4 Ghz. You can use a tool called inSSIDer for that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InSSIDer

 

 

 

 

 

Are you able to stay connected to the access point directly on the inside near the patio?

apparently since I have no access to the originating router, I can't use a repeater, right?

btw, my tablet inside gets the signal, but not the pc with the usb adapter.  I don't have room to put a big antenna outside.  any suggestions on the best wireless adapter for a pc? my current netgear usb adapter has no coax or other interface. I just plug it into my pc.  thanks.

 

 

 

You might be able to use a repeater. If you're connecting with your tablet and laptop, it's probably an open access point with no form of authentication, so you would probably be able to connect a reapeater to it. There may be an issue with DCHP though. DHCP automatically assigns computers, laptops, tablets, and phones with IP addresses, and they can change after a certain amount of time. You'll probably need a static IP address on your repeater, which doesn't change. You may be able to configure this on the repeater itself, but you might not be. In any case, it's going to take some playing around with it, and there's no guarantee it will work. You shouldn't buy a repeater unless you can take it back if it doesn't work.

 

I linked an Alpha USB adapter that might be better than what you have.

 

Finally, your best solution would be to just get your own home internet connection so you can have a router inside your house. You can place it wherever works out the best, you can change all the configuration of it yourself, and you would be in control of your network.



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Posted 08 November 2015 - 10:52 PM

Let me get this straight you are trying to freeload on somebody elses internet connection that they are paying for the service and our membership is supposed to help you.  What next we teach classes on the best way to hack?????

wow, danny boy.  this is an xfinity hotspot. I have an account.  that's how i connect.  no idea how someone would hack another's wifi.  I thought my questions prove that. ;)  when I travel to my relatives, I want to be able to access my xfinity. btw, anyone can use an xfinity hotspot for free for 2 hours per month, and you can buy more time.  nothing illegal here. 



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Posted 08 November 2015 - 10:58 PM

 

 

 

If you don't have physical control of an access point, you cannot configure it to increase the transmit power of the signal. However, you may be able to use a repeater, which connects to that access point, and rebroadcasts or repeats the signal. Set up the repeater on or near your patio, and you should be able to access the network inside.

 

Something like this

http://www.amazon.com/Alfa-AWUS036NH-802-11g-Wireless-Long-Range/dp/B003YIFHJY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1446128451&sr=8-1&keywords=Alpha+adapter

 

With one of these would probably be better than the netgear adapter. If the netgear has a coax plug so you can attach an external attena, you could probably improve the performance of it with just the Yagi antenna. What specific wifi interface is it?

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=yagi+antenna&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Ayagi+antenna

 

If you go this route, you'll want to make sure the access point in question, what you're referring to as a hot spot, is using 2.4 Ghz. You can use a tool called inSSIDer for that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InSSIDer

 

 

 

 

 

Are you able to stay connected to the access point directly on the inside near the patio?

apparently since I have no access to the originating router, I can't use a repeater, right?

btw, my tablet inside gets the signal, but not the pc with the usb adapter.  I don't have room to put a big antenna outside.  any suggestions on the best wireless adapter for a pc? my current netgear usb adapter has no coax or other interface. I just plug it into my pc.  thanks.

 

 

 

You might be able to use a repeater. If you're connecting with your tablet and laptop, it's probably an open access point with no form of authentication, so you would probably be able to connect a reapeater to it. There may be an issue with DCHP though. DHCP automatically assigns computers, laptops, tablets, and phones with IP addresses, and they can change after a certain amount of time. You'll probably need a static IP address on your repeater, which doesn't change. You may be able to configure this on the repeater itself, but you might not be. In any case, it's going to take some playing around with it, and there's no guarantee it will work. You shouldn't buy a repeater unless you can take it back if it doesn't work.

 

I linked an Alpha USB adapter that might be better than what you have.

 

Finally, your best solution would be to just get your own home internet connection so you can have a router inside your house. You can place it wherever works out the best, you can change all the configuration of it yourself, and you would be in control of your network.

 

not sure I follow.  I do have a single IP address (well, 1 home 1, 1 away from home).  so I could enter that into the repeater?  anyway, I bought a better wifi adapter for my pc, and i'm getting the wifi signal much of the time, tho the speed varies.  I guess it's based on how many people are accessing it? 

 



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Posted 08 November 2015 - 11:04 PM

Try this setup out it might just work for you

 

http://www.ccrane.com/WiFi-Antennas-1/Super-WiFi-Repeater-System

thanks.  so does this increase the strength of the signal it receives, or just re-broadcast it with less loss?  or is it more like it captures more of the signal?

 

currently I have a wifi adapter with 2 small antennae (6 dBi?).  you think this thing would be even better?

 

I sometimes get the speed quite high with it, sometimes low.  does that sound like an issue a better antenna would solve, or since I do at times get high speed, the sometimes slowness is more a function of many people using the same hotspot and a better antenna would not help?


Edited by jimlau, 09 November 2015 - 12:56 PM.


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Posted 24 July 2017 - 05:04 AM

I have a laptop running 24/7 with Connectify installed (it turns your laptop into a router), as well as a USB high gain antenna. So the laptop is connected to 'xfinitywifi', while Connectify shares this connection and makes a virtual router with a wifi name of your choosing, which I can then connect to on another device. The speed isn't great (wifi hotspots top out at 16mbps and I rarely reach that speed), but it has been fine for watching videos and such. Once you are signed in on the router-laptop, it never seems to disconnect me or force me to log in again either.




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