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Windows 98SE Problems installing Drivers


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#1 POKEGAMERZ

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 12:46 AM

Alright so I just restored this old XP Pentium 4 PC and because I already owned an XP desktop I decided to install Windows 2000 but the installation caused problems and eventually I just stuck to Windows 98SE. I did have the disc at some point around the house but unfortunately we cleaned up around the house and the disc somehow went missing. I tried to buy another copy of the disc from the local PC repair shop but he didn't have it.
Here is a picture of the drivers I'm looking for-
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The motherboard that I have is an old PCChips PC400 VT8233 motherboard. I also have no USB and internet access on my PC so basically the only way for me to install the drivers are-
1 Search the house for the motherboard disc.
2 Install the driver installation file on XP and transfer the file to a floppy disk and then switch to the 98SE and insert the floppy disk and install according to the procedure.
3 Burn a copy of the motherboard iso onto a blank CD-R disc on my Windows 7 PC and then switch to the 98SE PC and install the drivers from the disc.
The only problem is that it is literally impossible to find drivers for this motherboard. Please find the drivers or the ISO for me and post it here please.

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 01:15 AM

Another thing to note is that I don't own a PCI Ethernet or PCI audio card. The PCI cards that I have are 3dfx graphics card (don't know model), USB PCI card and finally a WiFi PCI card.
I also have some questions to ask-
1 Are there drivers for hardware that have no yellow ! For example when I download the other drivers could I download USB 2.0 drivers, PCI WiFi card drivers and 3dfx graphics card drivers?
2 Under network adapters it say somthing like Dial Up Modem connected but I have a feeling that it thinks my WiFi card is a Dial Up card. Why is it doing this?
3 By PCI Ethernet controller does it just mean a PCI or does it mean the Ethernet connector on the motherboard as well.
4 Will Ethernet/LAN work if I connect an Ethernet cable on one end to the Ethernet/LAN port on my Verizon router and the other end of the Ethernet cable to the 98SE?
Also please help me with these drivers because I rely on you all the most.

Edited by POKEGAMERZ, 15 October 2015 - 01:16 AM.


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Posted 15 October 2015 - 05:25 PM

For Ethernet go here. Use the dropdown boxs to select your OS then Ethernet Lan > VT8233

 

I am not sure about your Wireless. Getting Wireless to work on 98 can be tough. Do you have a make and model of the wireless card?

 

If you do not have any yellow exclamation marks on a device, you do not need to update the driver.

 

For USB 2.0 on Windows 98 you can download the generic drivers here. Make sure you follow the install instructions. You need to uninstall all your USB devices and hubs before installing the drivers.

 

To get a better idea of what the unkown devices are use this utility.

 

http://www.halfdone.org/ukd/



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Posted 15 October 2015 - 11:45 PM

For Ethernet go here. Use the dropdown boxs to select your OS then Ethernet Lan > VT8233
 
I am not sure about your Wireless. Getting Wireless to work on 98 can be tough. Do you have a make and model of the wireless card?
 
If you do not have any yellow exclamation marks on a device, you do not need to update the driver.
 
For USB 2.0 on Windows 98 you can download the generic drivers here. Make sure you follow the install instructions. You need to uninstall all your USB devices and hubs before installing the drivers.
 
To get a better idea of what the unkown devices are use this utility.
 
http://www.halfdone.org/ukd/

Alright so I seemed to have gotten the drivers on a floppy disk but my PC literally refuses to read my Floppy disks and I come across many errors in the process.
Here are some pictures that I have to show you-
1 A Drive Error-
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2 Device is not ready error screen-
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3 My floppy drive A current BIOS settings-
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4 My Floppy Disk-
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Why is this happening? Could this be because I changed the Floppy Drive A settings on the BIOS or could it be something else? Please help me out here because I spent over an hour trying to find drivers on my Windows 7 PC due to it being faster than XP and having WinZip already installed on it and then I had to transfer it from my Windows 7 PC to my USB Flash Drive and then from my USB flash drive to my Floppy Disk via Windows XP. Now all I wish to do is access it on my 98SE PC so that I could install the drivers for it.

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 08:28 AM

From your BIOS you have a 720KB floppy drive. Your floppy disk does not have the metal or plastic shutter so it's possible your floppy disk is bad. Also the disks looks like a 1.44MB disk and your drive only reads 720KB disks.

 

Here is a 720KB floppy disk

3_5-DD-single_sided_Diskette.jpg

 

Here is a 1.44MB floppy disk

 

Dysan_floppy_disk_01.jpg

 

Notice the difference. The 720KB disk only has one hole. the 1.44MB disk has a hole on the right and is labeled HD (High Density). A 720KB drive cannot read a 1.44MB formatted disk.

 

You are going to need to format the disk to 720KB in XP. Cover the hole on the right with some black tape and XP will see this as a 720KB disk and format it. If covering the hole does not work you can force XP to format the disk to 720kb. See this page.


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Posted 16 October 2015 - 03:16 PM

From your BIOS you have a 720KB floppy drive. Your floppy disk does not have the metal or plastic shutter so it's possible your floppy disk is bad. Also the disks looks like a 1.44MB disk and your drive only reads 720KB disks.
 
Here is a 720KB floppy disk
3_5-DD-single_sided_Diskette.jpg
 
Here is a 1.44MB floppy disk
 
Dysan_floppy_disk_01.jpg
 
Notice the difference. The 720KB disk only has one hole. the 1.44MB disk has a hole on the right and is labeled HD (High Density). A 720KB drive cannot read a 1.44MB formatted disk.
 
You are going to need to format the disk to 720KB in XP. Cover the hole on the right with some black tape and XP will see this as a 720KB disk and format it. If covering the hole does not work you can force XP to format the disk to 720kb. See this page.

The only reason that it says 720KB is because I changed it in the BIOS from a bigger number I think. Also my Floppy is good because it works on XP like that and also it does the same thing to my orange Floppy which does indeed have the plastic on top. What could be another explanation?

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 03:47 PM

Change your BIOS back to the 1.44mb drive. If that does not work then the only explanation I can think of is your floppy drive, cable, or motherboard connection for the floppy port bad. You could rule out floppy drive by taking the drive and cable from the XP computer and installing in your Windows 98 computer as a temporary fix.

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 07:00 PM

Change your BIOS back to the 1.44mb drive. If that does not work then the only explanation I can think of is your floppy drive, cable, or motherboard connection for the floppy port bad. You could rule out floppy drive by taking the drive and cable from the XP computer and installing in your Windows 98 computer as a temporary fix.

1 It wasn't working before when it was 1.44MB.
2 It can't be the floppy cable because before I checked that it was plugged in and it was but another explanation could be that I may have changed another setting but I'm not sure if that's it but I'll see what I can do to resolve the problem and finally get my drivers installed.

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 07:20 PM

Change your BIOS back to the 1.44mb drive. If that does not work then the only explanation I can think of is your floppy drive, cable, or motherboard connection for the floppy port bad. You could rule out floppy drive by taking the drive and cable from the XP computer and installing in your Windows 98 computer as a temporary fix.

Alright so some other floppy options on the BIOS were messed up and I set it back to 1.44MB and the good news is that the floppy loads my files but the bad news is this-
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Happens when I select my Floppy Drive in My Computer and also happens when I try to select 2 of my 3 driver files and also this-
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Happens with 1 of my 3 drivers when trying to select driver file.
Help me please.

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 07:59 PM

I am not sure what would be causing the first image error or the second. When you open the floppy by double clicking the floppy drive can you drag and drop the files to the desktop?



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Posted 16 October 2015 - 09:00 PM

I am not sure what would be causing the first image error or the second. When you open the floppy by double clicking the floppy drive can you drag and drop the files to the desktop?

No I can't because it gives me this error message-Attached File  IMG_20151016_215947545_HDR.jpg   92.37KB   1 downloads

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 09:21 PM

If this is the floppy drive originally installed in the 98 computer I would swap out the floppy drives between the 98 and XP computer. This error is caused by a bad drive, cable, or MB problem.



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Posted 17 October 2015 - 01:05 PM

Another error message that I get is this-Attached File  IMG_20151017_140355157.jpg   76.6KB   0 downloads
I also am in need of more drivers-
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Help please.

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Posted 17 October 2015 - 01:15 PM

Here's a message that I get when 98SE starts up-
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Could this be because I attempted to install Windows 2000 server because the BIOS also says some files are missing when 98SE starts up.

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Posted 17 October 2015 - 01:23 PM

Here's a message that I get when 98SE starts up-
attachicon.gifIMG_20151017_141306248.jpg
Could this be because I attempted to install Windows 2000 server because the BIOS also says some files are missing when 98SE starts up.

Here are some things that it says I'm missing-Attached File  IMG_20151017_141609110.jpg   91.56KB   0 downloads
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