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#1 RolandJS

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 03:24 AM

Title should have been:   Need to destroy WU's Windows 10 auto-download

 

Earlier, I removed the ...664 update.  No go.

WU now wants to automatically download Windows 10.

I cannot access critical updates or important updates that apply to my Windows 7.

Does anyone here have their steps they applied to destroy Windows 10 auto-download via WU,

and restore the critical and important updates for Windows 7 via WU?


Edited by RolandJS, 12 October 2015 - 03:28 AM.

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 04:22 AM

Might not be the answer you need , but i disabled one of Win10 startups using Autoruns from AURA`s Instructions , wasnt a problem anyway.

And uninstalled  2 others the 664 and cant remember the other off hand.{ KB3035583 .}

I dont use Windows Update in Auto , i select notify on Dload and Install , and select what i need , or just Hide the Problem ones.

Havent had an issue since , and not ready to try W10 , still happy with 7 until im forced to change.


Edited by Havachat, 12 October 2015 - 05:08 AM.


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Posted 12 October 2015 - 04:45 AM

Do you remember which topic/which post had Aura's instructions?


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Posted 12 October 2015 - 05:12 AM

Aura`s Post....if it helps.

 

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/578100/remove-the-get-windows-10-icon-from-the-icon-tray/?hl=%20windows%20%20nag



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Posted 12 October 2015 - 06:23 AM

Well, RolandJS, KB3050265 is supposed to stop the updates from recurring, but I got two independent reports from two guys both today and yesterday that it won't stop the latest re-flurry of the infamously bad ones.  Click here for which those are: 'article by Woody Leonhard is the first sublink in there.

 

Then, the turnoff for telemetry bullets I did in Win7, which someone said was helpful, followed by the KB 3050265 which is supposed to ban GWX from your machine. Video on it follows below in that thread.

 

Let us know if it works or not, as speculation is now rife.


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Posted 13 October 2015 - 04:27 AM

FYI - there's a little link just below the W10 download blurb that allows you to view the rest of the updates.


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Posted 13 October 2015 - 05:05 AM

FYI - there's a little link just below the W10 download blurb that allows you to view the rest of the updates.

Yes, and no.  Reviewing the rest of the updates did not translate into being able to only pick those updates.

On the desktop, at this point, no matter what I pick and do not pick, the Windows 10 download automatically begins first and foremost.  But, I have a plan.  Right now, I'm backing up everything via FreeFileSync the contents of my d-partition.  Then, I will full-image OS partition.  After allowing Windows 10 to downlaod, hopefully I can kill the install.  If not, I will simply roll-over the W10 with my full-image W7pro.


Edited by RolandJS, 13 October 2015 - 05:06 AM.

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Posted 13 October 2015 - 06:00 AM

I'm doing this all from memory as I only have a W10 system at home (I haven't had time to get VM's working recently)

 

When we do this at work, there will be a list of updates (I think it's the Optional ones, but am not certain  It may be listed as Important now) and the "Update to Windows 10" one will be automatically selected.
For those customers who do not want W10 - we make sure that we uncheck the "Update to Windows 10" one and W10 doesn't install.

FYI - I have not tried to hide that update, so I don't know if that'll work.

I believe that I've killed the installation previously (when we forgot to deselect the update), and that it stopped the W10 install, but the nag was still there.

I've only tried to remove the GWX update/folder once and it worked then - but this was back when it first came out.

 

Have you tried this?  http://www.myce.com/news/how-to-uninstall-kb3035583-the-windows-10-downloader-for-windows-7-and-8-1-75681/

It's similar to what I recall doing when the update first came out:  http://www.myce.com/news/how-to-uninstall-kb3035583-the-windows-10-downloader-for-windows-7-and-8-1-75681/

 

Other things to try are to use Autoruns to stop the GWX files from loading at startup (although that may not help with Windows Updates)

Or just selectively rename files from the GWX folder to see if you can break it deliberately.


Edited by usasma, 13 October 2015 - 06:06 AM.

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Posted 13 October 2015 - 07:38 AM

Just so you know, there's currently a glitch with Windows Update and Windows 10. Even thought you uncheck and hide the "Upgrade to Windows 10" update, select the other updates you want to install and proceed to download and install them, the Windows Update will still display a download progress for Windows 10. This is a "bug" or "glitch", it doesn't actually download Windows 10, but the updates you selected instead. So if this is what you were referring to, don't worry about it, it's not actually downloading Windows 10.

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Posted 13 October 2015 - 09:05 AM

That's good to know, Aura!  I'll reTry the other updates when I get home, that's where the desktop is  :)


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Posted 13 October 2015 - 09:27 AM

No problem. It seems like not a lot of users are aware of it, but since I see it everytime I install updates on my VMs, I realized it at some point.

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Posted 14 October 2015 - 10:11 PM

Title should have been:   Need to destroy WU's Windows 10 auto-download

 

Earlier, I removed the ...664 update.  No go.

WU now wants to automatically download Windows 10.

I cannot access critical updates or important updates that apply to my Windows 7.

Does anyone here have their steps they applied to destroy Windows 10 auto-download via WU,

and restore the critical and important updates for Windows 7 via WU?

I found a forced update to Windows 10 just this evening.   I found a way out of it.  I cannot remember the exact process, but opened Windows Update, changed settings to "Check but let me choose...",  then found a link somewhere to view available updates;  I found two tabs:  Important and Optional.  NOTHING was checked/selected, except in the Optional section JUST WINDOWS 10 UPGRADE was checked.  I removed the checkmark there, and then put checkmarks in the needed Important items in the Important Updates tab, and then clicked the button to download and install the checked-marked updates.

 

Currently, that computer still is on Windows 7, and has all of its Important Updates.



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Posted 15 October 2015 - 01:01 AM

I've seen a lot of posts here detailing how to rip GWX's guts out in order to prevent unwanted Win 10 upgrades/downloads. These usually involve un-installing updates and trying to avoid new GWX laden updates.

 

There is another way to approach this, and it does not involve un-installing or avoiding updates. In fact it's even MS supported (albeit though their marketing bods gritted teeth, I expect!)

 

Here are some instructions that I wrote about a month ago for some friends. Note that the updates mentioned in these instructions (3083324/5) might have been superseded in October updates - I've not had a chance to review that yet.

 

Once a Mod has reviewed these instructions.. you may want to make them more accessible.

 

Here we go.....

 

Logged in using an account that is an administrator of the PC, copy/paste the contents of the code window below into notepad and save it as "DisableWin10Upg.reg" (ensure that you save it as type "all files" so that you don't end up with a hidden ".txt" on the end of the file name). Then double click the file. You will get a “User Access Control” prompt, and also a warning telling you only to proceed if you trust the file. Accept both of these prompts (you should get a prompt saying that things have been added to the registry), then reboot.

The registry settings rely on the presence of a certain Windows update. If you do not have this (or a superseding update) installed, then install it:.
Windows 7:    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3083324
Windows 8.1:    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3083325

Note that these updates supersede the updates mentioned in the other knowledgebase article that I refer to below. These updates are included in the September Windows updates that you should receive automatically. If you have run Windows updates since the middle of July, you should have Update 3065987 or 3065988 already, either of which will be just as effective at blocking unwanted Windows 10 preparations and offers. You will observe that the get windows X application (GWX) disappears from the notification area near the clock after the reboot.

This knowledgebase article confirms most of the things that I refer to above – It’s meant for IT administrators, so is a bit technical... https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351

 

Contents of "DisableWin10Upg.reg":

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate]
"DisableOSUpgrade"=dword:00000001


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\OSUpgrade]
"ReservationsAllowed"=dword:0


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\GWX]
"DisableGWX"=dword:00000001

Once these instructions have been implemented, the GWX notification area icon does not appear, the automatic background download is disabled, and upgrade offers and prompts no longer occur.

 

There is no need to avoid any Win7 or Win 8.1 updates or second guess which of those updates include GWX technology.

 

I've been running with these settings (on Win7 Ultimate) for several weeks, and am still blissfully Win10 free on the system to which I applied the settings.

 

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Edited by x64, 15 October 2015 - 01:03 AM.


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Posted 15 October 2015 - 05:04 AM

Nice work!  I'll give this a try today


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Posted 15 October 2015 - 05:29 AM

I knew about these Registry keys/values, but for some reason, never bothered to add them on my VMs. Will keep that in mind on the next Patch Tuesday and apply them to my VMs before taking a new snapshot.

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