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I was told with Windows 10, I won't need to buy an Anti-virus program???


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#1 mark38175

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 08:49 AM

This was information from a not so reliable source at work; which is why I'm asking the question. if I have to buy what is the best value for money for a light user like me (no porn)? Are free anti virus worthwhile? I have a free Malware (recommended from this site). What else do I need along side Windows 10? Utilities? This was my first post! From mark38175 P.S. I know nothing!


Edited by hamluis, 31 August 2015 - 09:27 AM.
Moved from Win 10 to AV/AM Software - Hamluis.


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Posted 31 August 2015 - 08:58 AM

Windows 10 includes a built in antivirus. It's called Windows Defender.

Your choice whether to use it, go with another free AV or purchase an AV.

Like other anti-malware applications, Windows Defender automatically runs in the background, scanning files when they’re accessed and before you open them.

You don’t really have to think about Windows Defender at all. It will only pop up and inform you when it finds malware. It won’t even ask you what you want to do with the malicious software it finds — it will clean it up and quarantine the files automatically. You’ll see a “Malware detected” notification saying “Windows Defender is taking action to clean detected malware” or “Detected threats are being cleaned.” It’ll appear in the notification center, too.

http://www.howtogeek.com/220232/how-to-use-the-built-in-windows-defender-antivirus-on-windows-10/


Click the link for more information on Windows Defender and how to use it.

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 09:21 AM

Some are still using Windows XP with a respectable antivirus and don't get infected, and others using Windows 7, 8.1 or 10 spend a lot of time in malware removal forums... No antivirus will protect against plain stupid. Safe browsing habits and common sense, staying away from illegal file sharing or copyrighted video streaming sites, combined with updated software and reputable anti-malware software, will greatly help keep nasties away.

 

I find very few free antivirus programs worth installing. I've been using ESET for years, and I know a lot of malware removal specialist recommending it. It's highly effective, fast and reliable, and not too hard on system resources. But again, do not use an antivirus as a substitute for lack of awareness.



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Posted 31 August 2015 - 09:31 AM

I would get Avast! Usually Defender isn't exactly adequate for detecting viruses on the spot.


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Posted 31 August 2015 - 10:26 AM

I'm running Windows 10 because I don't have much choice, but I have an aversion to most MS software since that is what hackers and virus makers like to target (plus Outlook, Word and IE are inferior to Thunderbird, WordPerfect and Firefox) and, therefore I do not rely on Defender. I recommend Kaspersky - to me, it is better than Norton, McAfee, AVIRA, etc.



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Posted 31 August 2015 - 11:13 AM

I've been using ESET for years, I know a lot of malware removal specialist recommending it. It's highly effective, fast and reliable, and not too hard on system resources.


I am not a malware removal specialist. However, I do recommend Eset.

They have a stand-alone antivirus and a security suite. Both are products that you have to purchase and renew every year.

I use the security suite. It is everything Phantom said.

You can certainly take one or both of them for a test drive if you are considering purchasing a AV. Clicking the download link will give you the  option to try it for 30 days.




 



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Posted 31 August 2015 - 11:54 AM

I had an issue with my work VPN Juno Pulse and I tried Norton 260, avast, avg and Micro Trend and nothing worked except defender. So I created a VM with Windows 7 and defender and I'm now able to login to my computer at work. I use Anti Malwarebytes (registered version)  also.


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Posted 31 August 2015 - 11:58 AM

I had an issue with my work VPN Juno Pulse and I tried Norton 260, avast, avg and Micro Trend and nothing worked except defender. So I created a VM with Windows 7 and defender and I'm now able to login to my computer at work. I use Anti Malwarebytes (registered version)  also.

 

Some antivirus programs will conflict with MBAM Premium. In that case, you need to set exclusions for MBAM in your antivirus.



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Posted 31 August 2015 - 12:37 PM

This was information from a not so reliable source at work

 

It seems that unrealiable source has earned his/her reputation! Windows Defender works, but most would consider it inferior to a third-party AV product. There are tests done all the time comparing windows defender/free av software/premium av software. Just browse around for them, maybe even browse this forum, then make a decision on an anti virus product. You don't need to purchase one, a free version will work fine. It all depends on your preference.

 

 

Some are still using Windows XP with a respectable antivirus and don't get infected, and others using Windows 7, 8.1 or 10 spend a lot of time in malware removal forums... No antivirus will protect against plain stupid. Safe browsing habits and common sense, staying away from illegal file sharing or copyrighted video streaming sites, combined with updated software and reputable anti-malware software, will greatly help keep nasties away. [...] But again, do not use an antivirus as a substitute for lack of awareness.

 

I agree completely! 


Edited by Gorbulan, 31 August 2015 - 12:38 PM.


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Posted 31 August 2015 - 06:16 PM

I have a conceptual issue with using a Microsoft product to protect a Microsoft product when hackers are predominately targeting Microsoft.

 

Defender has always been a good product for me.  Yet I think diversifying is a good idea.

 

I have spent hundreds on AV products to only end up back with Avast.  It is not perfect. 

 

Your best defense is Phantom010's recomendations.

 

Don't be lulled into thinking all you need to do is stay off porn sites and your safe though.

 

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Posted 31 August 2015 - 06:29 PM

I had an issue with my work VPN Juno Pulse and I tried Norton 260, avast, avg and Micro Trend and nothing worked except defender. So I created a VM with Windows 7 and defender and I'm now able to login to my computer at work. I use Anti Malwarebytes (registered version)  also.

Hello - If you read the information, or join their forum for personal help, you will find that an article by member - "yardbird" has been listed there for years, relating to Trend Micro and the simple settings / exclusions required for running these 2 together.

With almost any 2 "similar" programs this is generally required.

If I find the link, I will post it back here for you. (see the updated Trend Micro directions below)

https://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?/topic/10138-common-questions-issues-and-their-solutions/page-1#entry162099

I have spent hundreds on AV products to only end up back with Avast.  It is not perfect. 

Don't be lulled into thinking all you need to do is stay off porn sites and your safe though.

Believe it or not - Porn sites have tightened up security greatly recently, but no site is ever 100% safe from dropping an infection on your computer, and this is with the best Antivirus - Antimalware programs running actively. The people in Malware Removal are Not all Porn watchers, but have infections dropped via almost any site, or download. Have you ever been tempted to click on "You are the 9,999,999 visitor" ...............

Edited to add link.


Edited by Jaycan, 31 August 2015 - 06:55 PM.


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Posted 01 September 2015 - 02:11 AM

As an extra to this post, you can read a full reasoning behind infections at this post by quietman7.

 

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/287710/how-malware-spreads-how-your-system-gets-infected/#entry1585860



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Posted 01 September 2015 - 12:59 PM

...Are free anti virus worthwhile? ...

An offer of free anti-virus software is essentially a marketing technique...a way of advertising and enticement to get folks to try a product and if they like it, to purchase the full (or Pro) version which typically provides more features. Marketing and promotional strategies are built into the vendor's business model as part of their operating costs. Bottom line...it's all about generating revenue and finding new and creative ways to do so. As such, users may have to deal with occasional nagging pop-ups or nuisance advertising and prompts to upgrade to the paid version.

By using such free programs, you are essentially agreeing to the terms of the vendor's service which includes those ads. In some cases you may be able to disable annoying pop-ups through the anti-virus settings if the vendor included an option to disable them. If the vendor does not have such an option listed, then your only alternative is to switch anti-virus software if the pop-up ads annoy you that much.

Also keep in mind that many anti-virus vendors are bundling toolbars and other software with their products as a cost recoup measure. In fact, all free Anti-virus programs now come with toolbars or other bundled software except Bitdefender Free.
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Posted 01 September 2015 - 01:02 PM

I have a free Malware (recommended from this site). What else do I need along side Windows 10? Utilities?

Windows 10 integrates a more robust version of Windows Defender (and uses that name) for its anti-virus and anti-malware protection. Although it uses the same name, it is not the same as the older version of Defender found in previous operating systems. Windows 8/10 Defender provides the same level of protection against malware as Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) provides on older operation systems and uses the same daily virus definition updates.

Although Windows 8/10 Defender provides some anti-malware protection...it is not adequate enough for comprehensive protection.

Anti-virus and anti-malware programs each perform different tasks as it relates to computer security and threat detection. Essentially, they look for and remove different types of malicious threats. In simplistic terms, Anti-virus programs generally scan for infectious malware which includes viruses, worms, Trojans, rootkis and bots.

Anti-malware programs generally tend to focus more on adware, spyware, unwanted toolbars, browser hijackers, potentially unwanted programs and potentially unsafe applications.

See my comments in Supplementing your Anti-Virus Program with Anti-Malware Tools as to why I recommend Malwarebytes Anti-Malware Premium and Emsisoft Anti-Malware.
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Posted 01 September 2015 - 01:28 PM

 

...Are free anti virus worthwhile? ...

An offer of free anti-virus software is essentially a marketing technique...a way of advertising and enticement to get folks to try a product and if they like it, to purchase the full (or Pro) version which typically provides more features. Marketing and promotional strategies are built into the vendor's business model as part of their operating costs. Bottom line...it's all about generating revenue and finding new and creative ways to do so. As such, users may have to deal with occasional nagging pop-ups or nuisance advertising and prompts to upgrade to the paid version.

By using such free programs, you are essentially agreeing to the terms of the vendor's service which includes those ads. In some cases you may be able to disable annoying pop-ups through the anti-virus settings if the vendor included an option to disable them. If the vendor does not have such an option listed, then your only alternative is to switch anti-virus software if the pop-up ads annoy you that much.

Also keep in mind that many anti-virus vendors are bundling toolbars and other software with their products as a cost recoup measure. In fact, all free Anti-virus programs now come with toolbars or other bundled software except Bitdefender Free.

 

 

Couldn't agree more! Excellent clarification! uzmj.gif  Free often comes with a price... blinkl.gif



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