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Help on the not-so-fancy build! All input appreciated!


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#1 AVKS

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 12:13 AM

Hello everyone,

 

I am hoping you guys can direct me in the right direction for my first build. I put some parts together a while back but never got around to completing. I know the video card set-up isn't the best but kind of strapped for cash right now so don't want to break the bank on this.

 

My needs are: heavy multi-tasking (tons of windows open with youtube/e-mail/pixlr/outlook/soundcloud/etc.). Heavy Excel/adobe .pdf usage. Gaming (assassins creed, need for speed). I will hook up the tower to a plasma tv I already have. Here are the parts I have followed by the parts I need to go with what I've already got. Please let me know if you want an exact budget number but the cheapest I can go and still accomplish the aforementioned is what I'm hoping to achieve. Thanks in advance!!!!

 

What I've got:

1. BUFFALO MiniStation Stealth 1TB Portable HDD External Hard drive (storing data here)

2. Crucial 256GB SATA SSD 6Gb/s (boot from here)

3. TWO disk drivers: 1 blu-ray, and 1 non blu-ray disk driver

4. TWO graphics cards: Nvidia GT545DE OEM 1 gig each x 2 = 2 gig total http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-545-oem-gddr5

 

What I need:

1/2/3. CPU/Motherboard(with ethernet)/case Combo with enough room to accomodate the two cards.

4. Memory (how much do I need?!)

5. Cooling (can I stick with the standard case cooling-my room in the east coast gets hot)?

6. Power (based on vid card: Maximum graphics card power = 105W)?? No idea how to proceed on this- any input appreciated.

 

If there's already a steal of a deal on a readymade machine that you think may be a better route than continuing this please let me know!

 

Thanks to all the gurus in advance!!


Edited by AVKS, 10 August 2015 - 12:19 AM.


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#2 Kilroy

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 06:06 AM

How much money do you have to spend?

 

Since you're mentioning not a lot of money you're looking at an AMD system.

 

For memory (RAM) I'd recommend 8GB, that should give you good performance at a decent price.

 

Standard cooling is fine.

 

I'd recommend 600 watts.  That should be fine for now and give you the ability to upgrade later.



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Posted 10 August 2015 - 07:41 AM

A few questions:

 

How much are you looking to spend?

 

What level of eye candy with games are you aiming for?

 

Are you going to reuse any equipment from your current PC?

 

One thing to keep in mind during the upgrade process:  If you are using a System Builder/OEM version of the OS, you cannot move it to a new motherboard due to how the license is tied to your motherboard.  Full, boxed retail copies of Windows can be moved.  If you are strapped for cash, reusing your motherboard is a good idea, if possible.  If your current CPU is several generations back, you may have no realistic alternative.


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#4 AVKS

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Posted 10 August 2015 - 10:41 PM

Do you'll think $400 is enough? Hoping for high level detail gaming for stuff like assassin's Creed.

I don't have a current pc. All the parts are new. This is a new build.

Thanks for the tips!

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Posted 11 August 2015 - 02:30 PM

Hey guys any input appreciated. Finding it hard to do everything on my phone!

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Posted 11 August 2015 - 05:30 PM

 

Do you'll think $400 is enough

No, not even close. You can go to Newegg.com and get a dumbed-down computer with minimal components for a bit over that, and possibly a laptop.

For example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883103929

As far as business apps are concerned, 4gigs of RAM will suffice. For gaming? Not a chance, unless you are talking about the simple flash games that are out there.

The above linked computer you could not build for that money they charge; manufacturers buy bulk and get special deals on components, but you could not build that computer for the same money, including an operating system.

Sorry, not trying to be a troll, those are just the facts of building life. :cowboy:


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Posted 11 August 2015 - 05:31 PM

This is what I would recommend.


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#8 AVKS

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Posted 11 August 2015 - 06:38 PM

Would that setup incorporate the sli video card? Thanks for that link!!!

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Posted 11 August 2015 - 07:38 PM

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Posted 12 August 2015 - 11:44 AM

Don't forget, you need to buy a copy of Windows, like Windows 10 Home 64-bit OEM.

 

If all you need is a motherboard, PSU, CPU, RAM, that should do you well, though you don't need all the extra fans, the motherboard has Ethernet built-in, and you may want to go for a 990FX-based motherboard as that chipset is designed for multiple graphics cards.  A GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990FX is one such board.  You may also want a better quality power supply like the CORSAIR CX series CX600M 600W


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Posted 13 August 2015 - 01:12 PM

 

Don't forget, you need to buy a copy of Windows, like Windows 10 Home 64-bit OEM.

 

If all you need is a motherboard, PSU, CPU, RAM, that should do you well, though you don't need all the extra fans, the motherboard has Ethernet built-in, and you may want to go for a 990FX-based motherboard as that chipset is designed for multiple graphics cards.  A GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990FX is one such board.  You may also want a better quality power supply like the CORSAIR CX series CX600M 600W

 

 

 

This looks good, so I'd go with Captain's suggestions only minus out the extra fans and swap the PSU and MOBO? 

 

OR

 

They have some kit combos- would you recommend any of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=fx-8350+fx-series+8-core&N=-1&isNodeId=1  . These specifically were the three fx ones:

 

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.2145128 

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.2145116

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.2145130

 

 

Opinion on this super cheap(after rebate) case:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sdtid=8041971&EdpNo=2851012&Sku=U12-42152&SRCCODE=LINKSHARE&cm_mmc_o=-ddCjC1bELltzywCjC-d2CjCdwwp&utm_source=Linkshare&utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_campaign=lw9MynSeamY&AffiliateID=lw9MynSeamY-8YtMKtgGex_vZxiTuZfx5g 

 

 

Power supply:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?sdtid=8039637&SID=7d49bf0b4d2a4daaa18ff2ae704c79e9&AID=10440897&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na&Item=N82E16817371031&cm_sp= 

 

 

So many choices become a challenge for a first time build. Thanks DJ!!!


Edited by AVKS, 13 August 2015 - 01:44 PM.


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Posted 14 August 2015 - 06:41 AM

You know which processor you want, which is an FX-8350.  Now you have to decide on the motherboard.  If you are wanting to use multiple graphics cards, you should go for an AMD 990FX-based motherboard, if not, an AMD 970-based board will do well for less money.  Many motherboards have which chipset they use in their title, so it is fairly easy to see which one you are getting.

 

This is the cheapest 970 combo at Newegg.  This is the cheapest 990FX combo at Newegg.  If you believe you're going to want to max out the RAM on the 990FX motherboard, you may want to buy those components separately since the combo only comes with two 4GB sticks.  Be careful with combos though, sometimes, retailers don't always pick the best components.  You will also need to buy a copy of Windows.

 

You usually get what you pay for with cases.  That is a fairly inexpensive full ATX case.  When picking out cases, keep in mind that vents or windows increase the amount of noise you can hear from inside the PC and aluminum cases are often higher quality.  With all the holes on that case, it won't offer much noise dampening.  Full ATX cases are great for having room for many components and large graphics cards, but, if you are only using a minimum of components with mid-range graphics cards, a standard ATX case may be worth looking into.  I really like Lian-Li cases, they're simple and understated, but well made.  Here is one of their mid-ATX cases, here is one of their full-ATX cases.  Their full-ATX cases are expensive, but their mid-ATX ones are reasonably priced.

 

Antec is a good brand, also worthy of consideration is Corsair, SeaSonic, and Enermax.  Here's one from SeaSonic, here's one from Corsair, and here's one from Enermax.  All of these are modular.


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Posted 16 August 2015 - 06:00 AM

Dude use this combo it will allow you to use both cards at 16x speeds unlike the 970 chipsets which are 16x 4x Sli  http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.2348496

 

You really need a minimum of 16gb for what you are trying to do but you can add on more ram later, also the memory in sli does not add up, so essentially it's still 1gb of vram not 2gb

A decent 450 w power supply should suffice and case should bring you up to ~$400

can get better cooling and  more ram later



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Posted 16 August 2015 - 11:49 AM

Dude use this combo it will allow you to use both cards at 16x speeds unlike the 970 chipsets which are 16x 4x Sli  http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.2348496

 

You really need a minimum of 16gb for what you are trying to do but you can add on more ram later, also the memory in sli does not add up, so essentially it's still 1gb of vram not 2gb

A decent 450 w power supply should suffice and case should bring you up to ~$400

can get better cooling and  more ram later

 

Can you point me in the right direction/article in regards to reading up on the speed? Why would the other chipset have better speed? Thanks for the input!



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Posted 16 August 2015 - 01:59 PM

Of the AM3+ chipsets 990fx is top of the line, 990x next best then 970x look for Graphics or crossfire description

Its just like buying a car, you have luxurry with all the goodies 990fx then a medium level stripped down 990x and then an economy car 970x

http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/chipsets/9-series

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/motherboard-selection-guide,3900-5.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_chipsets






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