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Is my GPU or monitor defective?


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#1 Valcorx

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Posted 31 July 2015 - 10:10 AM

Hi, I built a new PC like a week ago and My screen tears when watching videos or browsing but not when gaming because when I game, I turn Vsync on and it helps and screen tearing goes away. Now, I tried everything possible to fix this problem. Turning on Vsync from the nvidia control panel, changing cables, limiting the FPS from Rivatuner and everything you can imagine but I can't seem to fix screen tearing when watching videos or sometimes browsing or when scrolling Horizontally on some websites. As I mentioned, there is no screen tearing when gaming if i turn vsync on. Or atleast I can't see it at all but I'm pretty sure there isnt screen tearing when gaming. I have an MSI GTX 970 gpu and an 23" LG IPS  60hz monitor. Is the problem from the GPU or monitor?



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Posted 31 July 2015 - 10:51 AM

I am leaning towards the monitor. IPS panels do not refresh as fast as TN panels do.  What is the model number for your monitor?  Can you increase the refresh rate above 60htz?



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Posted 31 July 2015 - 10:54 AM

Hi, I built a new PC like a week ago and My screen tears when watching videos or browsing but not when gaming because when I game, I turn Vsync on and it helps and screen tearing goes away. Now, I tried everything possible to fix this problem. Turning on Vsync from the nvidia control panel, changing cables, limiting the FPS from Rivatuner and everything you can imagine but I can't seem to fix screen tearing when watching videos or sometimes browsing or when scrolling Horizontally on some websites. As I mentioned, there is no screen tearing when gaming if i turn vsync on. Or atleast I can't see it at all but I'm pretty sure there isnt screen tearing when gaming. I have an MSI GTX 970 gpu and an 23" LG IPS  60hz monitor. Is the problem from the GPU or monitor?

Do you have a secondary computer to test that monitor? If that monitor doesn't show screen tearing on your secondary computer, then that mean is the GPU. 



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Posted 31 July 2015 - 10:55 AM

 

Hi, I built a new PC like a week ago and My screen tears when watching videos or browsing but not when gaming because when I game, I turn Vsync on and it helps and screen tearing goes away. Now, I tried everything possible to fix this problem. Turning on Vsync from the nvidia control panel, changing cables, limiting the FPS from Rivatuner and everything you can imagine but I can't seem to fix screen tearing when watching videos or sometimes browsing or when scrolling Horizontally on some websites. As I mentioned, there is no screen tearing when gaming if i turn vsync on. Or atleast I can't see it at all but I'm pretty sure there isnt screen tearing when gaming. I have an MSI GTX 970 gpu and an 23" LG IPS  60hz monitor. Is the problem from the GPU or monitor?

Do you have a secondary computer to test that monitor? If that monitor doesn't show screen tearing on your secondary computer, then that mean is the GPU. 

 

 

This right here.  Only way to know for sure is to connect another monitor.  Cheers.



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Posted 31 July 2015 - 10:57 AM

 

 

Hi, I built a new PC like a week ago and My screen tears when watching videos or browsing but not when gaming because when I game, I turn Vsync on and it helps and screen tearing goes away. Now, I tried everything possible to fix this problem. Turning on Vsync from the nvidia control panel, changing cables, limiting the FPS from Rivatuner and everything you can imagine but I can't seem to fix screen tearing when watching videos or sometimes browsing or when scrolling Horizontally on some websites. As I mentioned, there is no screen tearing when gaming if i turn vsync on. Or atleast I can't see it at all but I'm pretty sure there isnt screen tearing when gaming. I have an MSI GTX 970 gpu and an 23" LG IPS  60hz monitor. Is the problem from the GPU or monitor?

Do you have a secondary computer to test that monitor? If that monitor doesn't show screen tearing on your secondary computer, then that mean is the GPU. 

 

 

This right here.  Only way to know for sure is to connect another monitor.  Cheers.

 

I can try it on my TV but I have no other monitor and I don't have another PC either.



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Posted 31 July 2015 - 10:58 AM

TV will be fine, as long as you're using the same cables and ports.



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Posted 31 July 2015 - 11:02 AM

I am leaning towards the monitor. IPS panels do not refresh as fast as TN panels do.  What is the model number for your monitor?  Can you increase the refresh rate above 60htz?

It's an LG 23mp57 and no, I can't increase the refresh rate.



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Posted 31 July 2015 - 11:05 AM

TV will be fine, as long as you're using the same cables and ports.

Aha. I'm only using an HDMI cable. Thanks though, Ill check it out :).



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Posted 31 July 2015 - 11:18 AM

Connecting it to your tv is not going to show you any screen tear... TV's don't refresh nearly as fast as high end video cards are capable of just FYI if you do see it I'd be surprised.  Heres an LG 24" IPS showing screen tear.  You can't really call it defective as that is just the way an IPS panel is.  I suggest a TN panel from BenQ like the one I got my son.  I see no tearing.

 

144hz at 1ms response... YUM


Edited by YeahBleeping, 31 July 2015 - 11:21 AM.


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Posted 31 July 2015 - 11:26 AM

Connecting it to your tv is not going to show you any screen tear... TV's don't refresh nearly as fast as high end video cards are capable of just FYI if you do see it I'd be surprised.  Heres an LG 24" IPS showing screen tear.  You can't really call it defective as that is just the way an IPS panel is.  I suggest a TN panel from BenQ like the one I got my son.  I see no tearing.

 

144hz at 1ms response... YUM

But I need to make sure that it is in fact from my monitor not GPU first.



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Posted 31 July 2015 - 11:27 AM

Connecting it to your tv is not going to show you any screen tear... TV's don't refresh nearly as fast as high end video cards are capable of just FYI if you do see it I'd be surprised.  Heres an LG 24" IPS showing screen tear.  You can't really call it defective as that is just the way an IPS panel is.  I suggest a TN panel from BenQ like the one I got my son.  I see no tearing.

 

144hz at 1ms response... YUM

Sometimes high end stuffs do get defective buddy, even a high end motherboard, GPU, power supplies, and RAM do get defective as well. Testing on the TV is a one step to eliminate if it his GPU problem, if it his GPU problem is should shows screen tearing on both monitor and TV. Also, TV refresh rate have nothing to do with a video card, you can runs a high end NVIDIA or AMD GPU on both TV and monitor as well. Refresh rate is just another word of capping how FPS can it display each second before screen tearing going to be appear. 



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Posted 31 July 2015 - 11:34 AM

 

Connecting it to your tv is not going to show you any screen tear... TV's don't refresh nearly as fast as high end video cards are capable of just FYI if you do see it I'd be surprised.  Heres an LG 24" IPS showing screen tear.  You can't really call it defective as that is just the way an IPS panel is.  I suggest a TN panel from BenQ like the one I got my son.  I see no tearing.

 

144hz at 1ms response... YUM

Sometimes high end stuffs do get defective buddy, even a high end motherboard, GPU, power supplies, and RAM do get defective as well. Testing on the TV is a one step to eliminate if it his GPU problem, if it his GPU problem is should shows screen tearing on both monitor and TV. Also, TV refresh rate have nothing to do with a video card, you can runs a high end NVIDIA or AMD GPU on both TV and monitor as well. Refresh rate is just another word of capping how FPS can it display each second before screen tearing going to be appear. 

 

So if there is no tearing on the TV then the problem is 100% from the monitor?



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Posted 31 July 2015 - 11:35 AM

 

 

Connecting it to your tv is not going to show you any screen tear... TV's don't refresh nearly as fast as high end video cards are capable of just FYI if you do see it I'd be surprised.  Heres an LG 24" IPS showing screen tear.  You can't really call it defective as that is just the way an IPS panel is.  I suggest a TN panel from BenQ like the one I got my son.  I see no tearing.

 

144hz at 1ms response... YUM

Sometimes high end stuffs do get defective buddy, even a high end motherboard, GPU, power supplies, and RAM do get defective as well. Testing on the TV is a one step to eliminate if it his GPU problem, if it his GPU problem is should shows screen tearing on both monitor and TV. Also, TV refresh rate have nothing to do with a video card, you can runs a high end NVIDIA or AMD GPU on both TV and monitor as well. Refresh rate is just another word of capping how FPS can it display each second before screen tearing going to be appear. 

 

So if there is no tearing on the TV then the problem is 100% from the monitor?

 

That's correct. 



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Posted 31 July 2015 - 11:43 AM

 

 

 

Connecting it to your tv is not going to show you any screen tear... TV's don't refresh nearly as fast as high end video cards are capable of just FYI if you do see it I'd be surprised.  Heres an LG 24" IPS showing screen tear.  You can't really call it defective as that is just the way an IPS panel is.  I suggest a TN panel from BenQ like the one I got my son.  I see no tearing.

 

144hz at 1ms response... YUM

Sometimes high end stuffs do get defective buddy, even a high end motherboard, GPU, power supplies, and RAM do get defective as well. Testing on the TV is a one step to eliminate if it his GPU problem, if it his GPU problem is should shows screen tearing on both monitor and TV. Also, TV refresh rate have nothing to do with a video card, you can runs a high end NVIDIA or AMD GPU on both TV and monitor as well. Refresh rate is just another word of capping how FPS can it display each second before screen tearing going to be appear. 

 

So if there is no tearing on the TV then the problem is 100% from the monitor?

 

That's correct. 

 

This is a stupid question but, can't the problem be from both? Because I mentioned that there is no screen tearing when playing games.



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Posted 31 July 2015 - 11:44 AM

Thanks Captain...

 

Screen tear in IPS monitors have been talked about a lot I am sure you can quick google this.  I am telling you for sure.  a TV's refresh rate CANNOT compete with high end video cards.  Look it up. Learn. Also FPS IS a product of a given refresh rate so I don't know where your getting your information but I'd wish you would learn something about it before you go speaking like you do...... buddy

 

A REAL test would be to .. try a ' better ' monitor on his CURRENT system.


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