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Windows 10 Automatic Updates Start Causing Problems


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#1 buddy215

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 01:48 PM

Windows 10 Automatic Updates Start Causing Problems - Forbes

7/25/2015 @ 1:10PM----------Gordon Kelly Contributor to Forbes.com

Microsoft has said that the Windows 10 updates are mandatory and automatic....no exception.

 

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With just four days left before launch, Windows 10’s policy of automatic updates has run into its first major problem and it is causing many PCs to stop working correctly...........

 

.....Interestingly the problem has also been experienced by Forbes contributor Paul Monckton who has done some digging and explained to me that the fault lies in a conflict between Windows Update and Nvidia’s own driver and software management tool the ‘Nvidia GeForce Experience’.

“It looks like driver version 353.54 [the latest at time of writing] is available only via Window Update,” Monckton told me. “The problem is the Nvidia GeForce Experience then tried to downgrade that to the previous version while claiming the previous version was actually newer.”............

 

So, if you roll back the driver update, Windows will install it again...and again...and again...

 

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Given Windows 10 updates cannot be stopped the most obvious solution is to uninstall third party driver management and hand it all over to Windows Update to avoid clashes. This potentially simplifies matters by providing an all-in-one update service, but it does mean taking away control from specialist companies over their own products.

A second approach is something many readers mentioned in comments on my previous post when Microsoft confirmed Windows 10 updates were unstoppable: hack it.

Initially this might work, but in April senior Microsoft product marketing manager Helen Harmetz said during a Windows 10 webinar that users who forcibly stopped any Windows 10 updates would eventually have their security updates cut off. Microsoft has yet to confirm this brutal enforcement policy in official documentation, but if this is the path it chooses that would ultimately make any form of update hack pointless.

 

                      

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Edited by buddy215, 27 July 2015 - 06:13 PM.

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 02:06 PM

So that answered my question of whether driver updates via Windows Updates are forced as well or not.

I just hope that they don't force Silverlight on my future Windows 10 Pro system.

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 02:20 PM

Last week Microsoft MSFT -0.3% confirmed every Windows 10 update will mandatory and installed automatically. This was met with a hostile reception from Forbes readers with over 100 comments on my news article voicing their concern. And now some of those fears have been realised…

With just four days left before launch, Windows 10’s policy of automatic updates has run into its first major problem and it is causing many PCs to stop working correctly.

Dreadful Drivers

The flaw revolves around Nvidia graphics cards with users taking to Nvidia’s forums to report Windows Update is automatically installing new drivers which break multimonitor setups, SLI (dual card) configurations and can even stop PCs booting entirely which pushes Windows 10 into its emergency recovery mode.

 

Let the fun begin

 

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 02:43 PM

Windows 10 Display Driver Feedback Thread (7/16/15) - GeForce Forums

 

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You can try the following, to block certain driver updates in Windows 10 Insider Preview:
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3073930
... go to the text that starts "To prevent the driver or update from being reinstalled"

 

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 03:58 PM

Automatic Update of drivers. Not a very bright idea in my opinion. Almost as bad as those all in one driver update programs. If the computer is running fine, there is no need to update drivers.



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Posted 25 July 2015 - 06:55 PM

The more I hear about these mandatory updates, the more I think I'll stick with Windows 7.



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Posted 25 July 2015 - 07:15 PM

So that answered my question of whether driver updates via Windows Updates are forced as well or not.

I just hope that they don't force Silverlight on my future Windows 10 Pro system.


I don't think that they'll force updates for programs you don't have. It's like Office programs and SQL Server. You won't get their updates if you don't have them installed.

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 07:45 PM

While I realize I am using cat1092's (BC Advisor) words in a slightly different context....

 

Cleaning up one's image (personal or business) is much harder than keeping it that way by not letting it get dirty. 

 

Be careful Microsoft....be very careful....you are never too big to come down a peg or two.

 

This whole scenario reeks of heavy handedness reminiscent of other corporate giants who have 'bitten the dust'

 

Mr Linux.....keep your eye on the ball. Your time will come. 


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Posted 25 July 2015 - 09:43 PM

Ha.... Ha.... Seems like our crash analysis sub forum will need new recruits to keep up the dump input once Windows X is out.:P
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Posted 25 July 2015 - 09:45 PM

Ha.... Ha.... Seems like our crash analysis sub forum will need new recruits to keep up the dump input once Windows X is out. :P


I wouldn't worry about that, the current helpers are able to handle any sort of load of work that ends up in their section :P

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 10:55 PM

While I realize I am using cat1092's (BC Advisor) words in a slightly different context....

 

Cleaning up one's image (personal or business) is much harder than keeping it that way by not letting it get dirty. 

 

Be careful Microsoft....be very careful....you are never too big to come down a peg or two.

 

This whole scenario reeks of heavy handedness reminiscent of other corporate giants who have 'bitten the dust'

 

Mr Linux.....keep your eye on the ball. Your time will come. 

 

 

 

They have already dropped a few pegs with Win 8 , i have had more windows update issues over the last few months than the last five years combined , i have zero confidence in them these days .


Edited by herbman, 25 July 2015 - 10:56 PM.


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Posted 26 July 2015 - 06:02 AM

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Posted 26 July 2015 - 06:44 AM

The more I hear about these mandatory updates, the more I think I'll stick with Windows 7.

 

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Posted 26 July 2015 - 08:22 AM

The answer is simple, go pro or enterprise then your updates won't be forced.

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Posted 26 July 2015 - 09:00 AM

With Professional and Entreprise you can only delay them until a certain time, after that you'll have to install them.

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