Jump to content


 


Register a free account to unlock additional features at BleepingComputer.com
Welcome to BleepingComputer, a free community where people like yourself come together to discuss and learn how to use their computers. Using the site is easy and fun. As a guest, you can browse and view the various discussions in the forums, but can not create a new topic or reply to an existing one unless you are logged in. Other benefits of registering an account are subscribing to topics and forums, creating a blog, and having no ads shown anywhere on the site.


Click here to Register a free account now! or read our Welcome Guide to learn how to use this site.

Photo

Why Windows 10 is going to be different...


  • Please log in to reply
38 replies to this topic

#1 darkbit

darkbit

  • Members
  • 35 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Local time:12:17 PM

Posted 28 June 2015 - 08:36 PM

Desktop OS has basically matured and Microsoft knows that and they is why they are offering it for "free" now... 

 

Remember the good old days when we went from 8 bit to 16 bit to 32 bit? No one would stay on 32bit now because 4GB of RAM is just too limiting, hence one of the bottlenecks against staying on Windows XP. But the jump from 32 bit to 64bit will be the last. We will never run out of memory anymore. There is no arguing the math of exponential curve. Likewise the jump from ipv4 to ipv6 means everyone on the planet can have billions of ip addresses assigned to them without running out.... So until and unless we switch from TCP/IP to some other thing entirely, ipv6 is the end of the road as far as anyone is concerned.  Windows 7 natively supports ipv6 unlike Windows XP.

 

DirectX 11/12.... the majority of AAA PC games these days do not fully take advantage of DirectX 11! Most are still backwards compatible with DirectX 9! Just look at Arkham fiasco and the trend of developing games for console first and then outsourcing a crappy port and you realize that the debate of DirectX12 vs DirectX11 is a nonstarter. The only reason why anyone would need DirectX12 bare metal is on lower end systems that don't have a lot of CPU power.   If you are building a PC for gaming that isn't you anyway. We are GPU bound not CPU bottlenecked. Otherwise from a feature set standpoint DirectX11.3 shall suffice! Until AAA developers stop doing sloppy ports that cap framerates to 30 fps I don't think the DirectX12 benefits (whatever they are) will ever become a contention or difference that makes a difference anyhow. Now that we have engines like CryTek supporting OpenGL and Steam going to Linux, we have more options and Microsoft no longer has the gaming monopoly it has always held. 

 

Look at back in the good old days when we went from FAT 16 to FAT 32 to NTFS. Remember when Vista came out we were supposed to get WinFS? Whatever happened to that? Windows 10 still uses NTFS the same as Windows XP. Nothing new under the sun basically....

 

Desktop OS has matured. This is why the shift from selling perpetual OS licenses to giving it for free as a loss leader in hopes of entrapping users onto the 'rent' economy or to lease their OS as in the sort of perpetual subscription based business model that companies like Adobe is doing with their Creative Cloud. It is all about a perpetual revenue stream when they realize that for the vast majority of users, for example like those using Photoshop, that the feature set has become so well developed, all the low handing fruit is gone, and the functionality so matured that essentially there is no compelling reason to upgrade for the sake of  upgrading to the newer version every few years. Adobe say the writing on the wall and went all out "subscription" based because that shift benefits their bottom line, at the expense of the consumer of course. If you are an average photographer who just needs to do a few things in Photoshop/Lightroom and already purchased Photoshop, you could use that for 10+ years and that is a one time fixed cost, much more effective than say paying Adobe a subscription year after year, or month after month, into perpetuity! This is what Microsoft is doing with Windows 10, and why Windows 10 is the "last" version of Windows..... 

 

Computers are for the most part reliable and don't break down every few years like they did back in the nascent times. I know of people who still run Windows XP on a machine that they don't care about upgrading and it just sits there for 10 years or more. Sure it is not a good security and XP is outdated, but the thing of it is, the CHOICE is theirs. If they just want to use it as an offline machine for whatever purpose, they CAN. Now with Windows 10, you have to pay year after year, for as long as that machine still survives... Do the math folks.... Long term the consumer gets shaft and Microsoft benefits. This is why they are offering the first year for free, as a loss leader! They are hoping to convert enough Windows 7/8 users to Windows 10 that from a marketshare perspective all the motherboard and device manufacturers say "okay, we are all onboard with Windows 10, we aren't going to offer any more Windows 7/8 drivers from now on because there isn't enough people on those platforms anyway" thus forcing those who would otherwise want to stay on Windows 7 to essentially "get with the program" and the once Microsoft has captured enough of the audience and the market and held everyone  hostage to its subscription based OS as a service in which you can't turn off automatic updates, etc.... then it will really get interesting... 

 

Why else you do think Intel is no longer offering Windows 7 support on the newer Skylake platforms? Or Microsoft doing the bait and switch whereby OEM can now lock down so that if you purchase a machine you can ONLY use Windows 10 and you can't install Linux or any other OS? 

 

Windows 10 will be the first OS in which there is no compelling reason to switch/upgrade anymore. For example, Windows 7 Pro 64-bit supports up to 196 GB of RAM, anyone think they will need more than that for desktop gaming/computing anytime soon or ever! Until AAA gaming titles start  getting developed for PC first and until they stop doing the console first strategy and with PC as an afterthought, any mention of DirectX12 being more efficient than DirectX11 is and will always remain a nonstarter, not to mention for gaming rigs it has always been GPU that was the limiting factor and not the CPU. 

 

Then look at point of diminishing returns... Nvidia can't seem to get below 28nm these days. Even with the Titan X and GTX 980TI we are still on the same 28nm arch that we had three generations past! When are we ever going to get down to 14nm? After Cannonlake until and unless Intel gets off silicon and uses something else more exotic, then we can't really go sub <10nm without hitting a quantum brick wall. 

 

In terms of raw Ghz processors haven't been getting any faster since the Sandy Bridge days. Now in terms of cores, why in the world is Skylake only supporting only quad cores? We had four cores since the good old Q6600 days! And Intel just announced they dropped AVX-512 support for Skylake and won't even think about it until Cannonlake... So folks, the newer processors are more green and global warning friendly, but where is the return on investment? Where is the raw effective improvement? I don't see it. Not to mention that just like with SLI, there is a limit to multicore scaling, and past octo-cores it makes little to no difference anyway unless you are running very specific type of applications. The vast majority of applications and games these days are not fully optimized for multicore or multithread. So even if we had AVX-512 for Skylake, until programs get with the program, lol, it won't be a difference that makes a difference. 

 

In essence, I'm making the argument that compared to 20 years, 10 years or heck even 5 years ago, desktop computing in general has largely been saturated and matured. The low hanging fruit is gone and all the easiest to hit things have been had. Now we are reaching a point of diminishing returns.... both from a technical and software/OS perspective. 

 

Compared to previous generations of upgrades (DOS to Windows 95, Windows 98 to Windows XP, XP to 7, etc) Windows 7/8 to Windows 10 will be the first time that for all intents and purposes it won't even matter anymore. Look no further for evidence than bring back the start menu as the best thing since sliced bread and Microsoft packaging Candy Crush Saga games and other bloatware to Windows 10 as extra features and it is becoming increasingly obvious the party is over. 


Edited by darkbit, 28 June 2015 - 09:09 PM.


BC AdBot (Login to Remove)

 


#2 gigawert

gigawert

  • Members
  • 1,304 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Local time:01:17 PM

Posted 13 July 2015 - 06:32 PM

That was actually a very interesting history lesson!  :wink:


John 3:16

 "God loved the world so much that He gave His uniquely-sired Son, with the result that anyone who believes in Him would never perish but have eternal life."


#3 brainout

brainout

  • Members
  • 1,190 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Houston
  • Local time:02:17 PM

Posted 13 July 2015 - 08:05 PM

Golly, I hate to sound like a Win fangirl here, but I gotta take issue with a whole bunch of what you're claiming, darkbit.  You don't realize, for example, that it's TRANSPARENT how MSFT is making money off the 'free' Win10 from the get-go, so they do not need to charge US for it annually.  I beg the pardon of others who will read this, because I've said it before, as have many professional writers, both pro and con MSFT.  They make money IMMEDIATELY, without having to charge 'us', as follows:

 

1.  SAVINGS ON OS SUPPORT.  The cost of having servers and staff to support the ongoing PAST OSes MSFT has churned out by the dozens, going back really 20 years (for remember, Enterprise pays an annual fee so does not have to upgrade) -- is enormous.  The cost of continual patches, of manning the patches, of knowing even what patches need to be, is very expensive.  And it's NOT free, but the problem is the consumer segment arose from the business segment, and MSFT offered it for free on a 5+5 cycle -- never dreaming it would become so widespread for so long.  In short, they shackled themselves with a too-generous promise to the public.  And they don't make enough off Enterprise, to recoup their costs.  So they need some way of unifying the support to ONE core OS to save money.  As you hopefully know, a penny saved is a penny earned, and we're talking about tons of pennies here.  Enough, to more than make up for the cost of the 'free' offer.  Way more.

 

2.  DATAMINING.  The new OS will gain a lot of people who are in a hurry so will just use 'Express Install' in order to get going.  What they've done when they select that, is OPT IN to MSFT collecting all their PC activity.  They can opt out, but you need an eagle eye, to look in the lower left of the first install screen after the EULA, to see 'Customize' or 'Custom Install', whatever the final words will be.  That is in small type, and will easily be missed.  So the large majority will not opt out; and even if they know their activity is continually stored in MSFT servers they will not care: trusting, that MSFT is not out to spy on them.  True: the objective is to aggregate the data, not ogle your cat pictures or porn.  Then, having hundreds of millions of humans' data aggregated, MSFT can sell it to business interested in forecasting trends to pitch their  services/products.  That's how Google became rich, and MSFT wants in on it, too.

 

3.  COLLATERAL SALES.  This category is varied, from sales in the Windows store, to phones and other MSFT stuff, to advertising space on their never-ending ads even in the search bar, if you are dumb enough to search on the web from that.  Or, the many ads that bombard you from Edge when you use it, even if you turn off 'msn' as your home page, and substitute 'blank' as I did.  Complaints about the Edge ads are already showing up in PC Magazine comments and elsewhere, so even if that ceases, well -- you've still got the live tiles. Which back when Win8 came out, blared with ads and everyone complained.  Okay, so say MSFT backs down on the ads.  Still, they got a lot of attention, so now developers will make products to the Windows Store, which gains a cachet of exclusivity.. and remains just like ads;  but, which people will accept.. mimicking who?  Amazon.  Quite a money maker, that's how Amazon became rich, why Amazon offers the Kindle for below cost.  See? MSFT is making money.  Or expects to.  It's patent.  Nothing underhanded, here.

 

4.  Now, the obvious: equipment dies, the year ends, not everyone gets it for free, Enterprise pays a subscription, Office 365 has prices too.. in short, more SOFTWARE SALES on new or used or any equipment, within the whole software suite MSFT sells.  This #4, is the traditional and most-accepted method of getting revenue.

 

There is nothing evil or scamming or greedy about it.  You offer something free as a lead-in, alright, but everyone's done that in business from time immemorial.  The idea is to give up front, to prove you have a good product.  Now, the recipient has the right to buy into it or take it or not. But it's nowhere near the same as some pusher selling pot to kids.

 

Fault MSFT as you will, but you can't factually fault them, here.


Edited by brainout, 13 July 2015 - 08:23 PM.

(Away, Notifications Off) AUDIT PREMISES, my guidon.  -- brainout or brainouty on vimeo or Youtube, domain brainout.net


#4 darkbit

darkbit
  • Topic Starter

  • Members
  • 35 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Local time:12:17 PM

Posted 13 July 2015 - 08:31 PM

brainout, I don't dispute your points, however they really weren't directed at what I was attempting to convey:

 

which is that as someone who predominately uses a desktop, I only want and need a desktop OS for my desktop. I don't need all the bing, Cortana, Edge, touch, Metro, Universal Apps, Windows Store, Azure, 365, Xbox, Hololens, Candycrush, minecraft, Windows Phone, mobile first cloud first etc junk..... 

 

For browser I use Firefox/Opera. Don't care about IE/edge. 

IF I wanted a phone/tablet I'd go with android. 

As far as any marketplace/app-store, that has no place in the PC world. If I wanted quality "apps" I'd turn to Apple. 

If I want "social", Id use facebook/twitter/instagram/snapchat/tinder

if I want personal assistant, I'd use Amazon ECHO. 

VR? Oculus RIFT. 

Gaming? The only good game Microsoft ever made was Flight Simulator and look at how they burned that franchise with the shortlived failure that came to be known as "FLIGHT" in which they (ironically) also gave it away for "free" and later tried to nickel and dime us to death with microtransactions and DLC galore. Now the likes of PMDG have picked up the pieces and went with Lockheed Martin's Prepar3D instead. 

Cloud? Amazon AWS. 

Office? I'm never upgrading from Office 2013. Some people are still using Office 2003 just fine. 

The one and ONLY thing I want from Windows that no one else can offer (besides Linux) is a mature Desktop OS. And that is Windows 7. Not Windows 10. 

 

Microsoft is going against the one thing that originally made it so successful (against IBM, etc) in the first place. 

 

Does W10 have some real improvements over W7? Sure! DirectX12, USB3.0 native, just to name a real significant few. 

 

But is it worth having to put up with all the junk and forced perpetual updates, potential loss of privacy and agency and control over my own local data/metadata, an uncertain licensing scheme for the foreseeable future, a Google-like business model that I have stayed away from , fisher price looking GUI/UI, etc etc etc on a desktop for when all intents and purposes Windows 7 is good enough basically forever or until I jump to Linux? No. 


Edited by darkbit, 13 July 2015 - 09:13 PM.


#5 brainout

brainout

  • Members
  • 1,190 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Houston
  • Local time:02:17 PM

Posted 13 July 2015 - 09:34 PM

LOLOL, darkbit!  You said that so well!  And honey, I'm one of them still on MS Office 2003!  So I apologize if I misread you, but all you just wrote now, I understand and affirm! Thank you!

 

(brainout marks darkbit's permalink to read over and over and over, nodding her head up and down, yes yes yes this is a great darkbit manifesto for brainout.)

 

EDIT: it's two hours later. The more I think about what you wrote, I realize for the first time WHY all this nonsense is being done.  The departure, as you better put it.  MS is seriously worried about losing consumer relevance.  I didn't notice that until your last post, where you tallied all the consumer-specific additions made to Win8 and 10, which are of course already long in the mobile world: business has no need for those additions.  What's really shocking, is that there's almost no consumer revenue anymore, compared to business.  So why go after it?  Well, obviously: if the employee doesn't like Windows, sooner or later, neither will his/her boss.  People came to buy into Windows because their employers did.  But it also works in reverse.

 

So now, panicked, too little, too late, too dysfunctional, Win10: and their real client base and source of revenue -- Enterprise -- is again again again -- given short shrift.  MSFT is trying to attain the cult status of Apple.  As if, they needed it.  So what happens? When you're married and you go after another woman, you lose the woman you got.

 

MSFT lost European municipalities and much of the third world in the ending of XP and pushing of Win8.  So for this to happen again, well.. the fallout will be much worse.

 

Witness: they are even willing to sacrifice business needs. For if you wanna see some real problems, talk to the IT people ranting about how Win10's updates won't let IT run its own show with autostarts, etc. (I just learned that, this morning.)

 

Whoever's behind the strategic planning up in Redmond, is making the same mistake as the French generals did, just prior to WWII: they trusted in the Maginot Line.  They couldn't believe Germany would go through the Ardennes yet again.  In short, MSFT is trusting that the business clients will stick with them, as a back perimeter defense they don't need to curry.  Big mistake.  Really big mistake.  It's heartbreaking, for the employees and so many other millions of folks work really hard to make Windows work well. But like you said, it's turned into a Fisher-Price toy, now.  Can't do business, on a tricycle.

 

Don't get me wrong, like you I want my Windows, goldarn it!  Bought 10 Win machines over the past 3 years, just so I wouldn't have to 'upgrade'.  But will there even BE an OS business will buy, if MSFT won't course correct -- prontito?


Edited by brainout, 13 July 2015 - 11:33 PM.

(Away, Notifications Off) AUDIT PREMISES, my guidon.  -- brainout or brainouty on vimeo or Youtube, domain brainout.net


#6 DAVID SHELDON

DAVID SHELDON

  • Members
  • 48 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Local time:01:47 AM

Posted 14 July 2015 - 02:27 AM

http://www.howtogeek.com/219098/heres-whats-different-about-windows-10-for-windows-8-users/

go through this link.

 



#7 DAVID SHELDON

DAVID SHELDON

  • Members
  • 48 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Local time:01:47 AM

Posted 14 July 2015 - 02:57 AM

http://www.businessinsider.in/There-are-seven-different-versions-of-Windows-10/articleshow/47273755.cms

check this link.

 



#8 reckonankit

reckonankit

  • Members
  • 86 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:India
  • Local time:01:47 AM

Posted 14 July 2015 - 08:06 AM

Yes you are right as we know Windows 7 is best for user even them who are not familiar with windows. while windows 8 for experience user and do many things so in windows 10 we can enjoy simple process and many things to do in easy way



#9 BeckoningChasm

BeckoningChasm

  • Members
  • 94 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Local time:04:17 PM

Posted 14 July 2015 - 09:31 AM

Well, I can say "Thank God" someone decided to get rid of the damned Charms.  Few things are more frustrating than trying to troubleshoot a Windows 12 server by swinging the mouse and hoping the Charms will deign to appear.



#10 orlbuckeye

orlbuckeye

  • Members
  • 250 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Orlando, Florida
  • Local time:04:17 PM

Posted 15 July 2015 - 02:53 PM

Desktop OS has basically matured and Microsoft knows that and they is why they are offering it for "free" now... 

 

Remember the good old days when we went from 8 bit to 16 bit to 32 bit? No one would stay on 32bit now because 4GB of RAM is just too limiting, hence one of the bottlenecks against staying on Windows XP. But the jump from 32 bit to 64bit will be the last. We will never run out of memory anymore. There is no arguing the math of exponential curve. Likewise the jump from ipv4 to ipv6 means everyone on the planet can have billions of ip addresses assigned to them without running out.... So until and unless we switch from TCP/IP to some other thing entirely, ipv6 is the end of the road as far as anyone is concerned.  Windows 7 natively supports ipv6 unlike Windows XP.

 

DirectX 11/12.... the majority of AAA PC games these days do not fully take advantage of DirectX 11! Most are still backwards compatible with DirectX 9! Just look at Arkham fiasco and the trend of developing games for console first and then outsourcing a crappy port and you realize that the debate of DirectX12 vs DirectX11 is a nonstarter. The only reason why anyone would need DirectX12 bare metal is on lower end systems that don't have a lot of CPU power.   If you are building a PC for gaming that isn't you anyway. We are GPU bound not CPU bottlenecked. Otherwise from a feature set standpoint DirectX11.3 shall suffice! Until AAA developers stop doing sloppy ports that cap framerates to 30 fps I don't think the DirectX12 benefits (whatever they are) will ever become a contention or difference that makes a difference anyhow. Now that we have engines like CryTek supporting OpenGL and Steam going to Linux, we have more options and Microsoft no longer has the gaming monopoly it has always held. 

 

Look at back in the good old days when we went from FAT 16 to FAT 32 to NTFS. Remember when Vista came out we were supposed to get WinFS? Whatever happened to that? Windows 10 still uses NTFS the same as Windows XP. Nothing new under the sun basically....

 

Desktop OS has matured. This is why the shift from selling perpetual OS licenses to giving it for free as a loss leader in hopes of entrapping users onto the 'rent' economy or to lease their OS as in the sort of perpetual subscription based business model that companies like Adobe is doing with their Creative Cloud. It is all about a perpetual revenue stream when they realize that for the vast majority of users, for example like those using Photoshop, that the feature set has become so well developed, all the low handing fruit is gone, and the functionality so matured that essentially there is no compelling reason to upgrade for the sake of  upgrading to the newer version every few years. Adobe say the writing on the wall and went all out "subscription" based because that shift benefits their bottom line, at the expense of the consumer of course. If you are an average photographer who just needs to do a few things in Photoshop/Lightroom and already purchased Photoshop, you could use that for 10+ years and that is a one time fixed cost, much more effective than say paying Adobe a subscription year after year, or month after month, into perpetuity! This is what Microsoft is doing with Windows 10, and why Windows 10 is the "last" version of Windows..... 

 

Computers are for the most part reliable and don't break down every few years like they did back in the nascent times. I know of people who still run Windows XP on a machine that they don't care about upgrading and it just sits there for 10 years or more. Sure it is not a good security and XP is outdated, but the thing of it is, the CHOICE is theirs. If they just want to use it as an offline machine for whatever purpose, they CAN. Now with Windows 10, you have to pay year after year, for as long as that machine still survives... Do the math folks.... Long term the consumer gets shaft and Microsoft benefits. This is why they are offering the first year for free, as a loss leader! They are hoping to convert enough Windows 7/8 users to Windows 10 that from a marketshare perspective all the motherboard and device manufacturers say "okay, we are all onboard with Windows 10, we aren't going to offer any more Windows 7/8 drivers from now on because there isn't enough people on those platforms anyway" thus forcing those who would otherwise want to stay on Windows 7 to essentially "get with the program" and the once Microsoft has captured enough of the audience and the market and held everyone  hostage to its subscription based OS as a service in which you can't turn off automatic updates, etc.... then it will really get interesting... 

 

Why else you do think Intel is no longer offering Windows 7 support on the newer Skylake platforms? Or Microsoft doing the bait and switch whereby OEM can now lock down so that if you purchase a machine you can ONLY use Windows 10 and you can't install Linux or any other OS? 

 

Windows 10 will be the first OS in which there is no compelling reason to switch/upgrade anymore. For example, Windows 7 Pro 64-bit supports up to 196 GB of RAM, anyone think they will need more than that for desktop gaming/computing anytime soon or ever! Until AAA gaming titles start  getting developed for PC first and until they stop doing the console first strategy and with PC as an afterthought, any mention of DirectX12 being more efficient than DirectX11 is and will always remain a nonstarter, not to mention for gaming rigs it has always been GPU that was the limiting factor and not the CPU. 

 

Then look at point of diminishing returns... Nvidia can't seem to get below 28nm these days. Even with the Titan X and GTX 980TI we are still on the same 28nm arch that we had three generations past! When are we ever going to get down to 14nm? After Cannonlake until and unless Intel gets off silicon and uses something else more exotic, then we can't really go sub <10nm without hitting a quantum brick wall. 

 

In terms of raw Ghz processors haven't been getting any faster since the Sandy Bridge days. Now in terms of cores, why in the world is Skylake only supporting only quad cores? We had four cores since the good old Q6600 days! And Intel just announced they dropped AVX-512 support for Skylake and won't even think about it until Cannonlake... So folks, the newer processors are more green and global warning friendly, but where is the return on investment? Where is the raw effective improvement? I don't see it. Not to mention that just like with SLI, there is a limit to multicore scaling, and past octo-cores it makes little to no difference anyway unless you are running very specific type of applications. The vast majority of applications and games these days are not fully optimized for multicore or multithread. So even if we had AVX-512 for Skylake, until programs get with the program, lol, it won't be a difference that makes a difference. 

 

In essence, I'm making the argument that compared to 20 years, 10 years or heck even 5 years ago, desktop computing in general has largely been saturated and matured. The low hanging fruit is gone and all the easiest to hit things have been had. Now we are reaching a point of diminishing returns.... both from a technical and software/OS perspective. 

 

Compared to previous generations of upgrades (DOS to Windows 95, Windows 98 to Windows XP, XP to 7, etc) Windows 7/8 to Windows 10 will be the first time that for all intents and purposes it won't even matter anymore. Look no further for evidence than bring back the start menu as the best thing since sliced bread and Microsoft packaging Candy Crush Saga games and other bloatware to Windows 10 as extra features and it is becoming increasingly obvious the party is over. 

I agree COMPLETELY


  • Alienware 18 Intel Core i7 4810 QM 16GB DDR3
  • 18.4" (1920 x1080) 
  • 1 TB Samsung EVO MSATA SSD 1 TB WD 5400 RPM HD 750 GB WD 5400 RPM HD
  • Nvidia GT 860 GM SLI graphics
  • Windows 10 Pro + Surface Book i5 256gb SSD 8gb RAM DGPU

 


#11 darkbit

darkbit
  • Topic Starter

  • Members
  • 35 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Local time:12:17 PM

Posted 20 July 2015 - 07:48 PM

Honestly I almost threw up watching this Windows 10 ad

 

 

Then when I thought of Drew's likely rebuttal, the vomit sprang out 



#12 darkbit

darkbit
  • Topic Starter

  • Members
  • 35 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Local time:12:17 PM

Posted 20 July 2015 - 07:56 PM

Kinda reminds me of Microsoft's other massive failure of a flop

 



#13 BeckoningChasm

BeckoningChasm

  • Members
  • 94 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Male
  • Local time:04:17 PM

Posted 23 July 2015 - 01:49 PM

Well, this is lovely.  I needed to copy a 5 gig file that's on my Windows 10 (evaluation) netbook.  So I launch Terracaopy and start the copy, and figuring it's going to take a while I go do other things.  A few minutes later I go to check, and Windows is installing updates.

 

I sure hope (but doubt) that my file copy got completed before Windows decided to install updates and reboot.  I'll recopy it, which means a waste of my time, but hey!  What else would I be doing with my worthless life?!

 

If this is Microsoft's view of the future--that my preferences take a back seat to Microsoft's--I may downgrade to Windows 7 and stay there until my hardware rusts away.

 

The thing I hated most about Windows 8 was that I was no longer the driver...I was the passenger.  It looks as if 10 is following that same route.



#14 brainout

brainout

  • Members
  • 1,190 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Houston
  • Local time:02:17 PM

Posted 23 July 2015 - 02:33 PM

My updates are set on Notify.  Also, just in case they ignore Notify, I set the updates to occur at an hour the computer is never running.


(Away, Notifications Off) AUDIT PREMISES, my guidon.  -- brainout or brainouty on vimeo or Youtube, domain brainout.net


#15 brainout

brainout

  • Members
  • 1,190 posts
  • OFFLINE
  •  
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Houston
  • Local time:02:17 PM

Posted 23 July 2015 - 02:34 PM

@darkbit, d'accord.  Imagine a world where all the computers brick because the children grow and so their faces change.


(Away, Notifications Off) AUDIT PREMISES, my guidon.  -- brainout or brainouty on vimeo or Youtube, domain brainout.net





0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users