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At WIT'S End.. HP dc7800 SFF Will NOT Boot From USB!!


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#1 Phabeon

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Posted 14 June 2015 - 09:12 PM

stopped at a random rummage, picked up a HP dc7800 SFF with Intel Core Duo CPU's

E6550@2.33Ghz x2, 4GB RAM, 80gb HDD

 

These appear to be old corporate machines as it boots into a VISTA image for some business. 

 

I am trying to throw Linux on this machine and since there are no cd bay am trying to do so from a USB. 

 

 

I went into BIOS, set boot order as follow: 1. USB, 2. HDD, 3. Network boot disabled

 

The 1st time it went into some command prompt type script but stated it failed, something about BTX failure but it flashed across so quick I could not verify it or confirm.  However then it went into the Vista load up again but no USB boot. I googled it some and someone suggested disabling "Data Execution Prevention" and so I did that.  Verified boot order again, set to USB, and then HDD.  However again, nothing happens just boots directly to the Vista Image.   I set BIOS back to defaults and tried again using both USB ports in back and in front and no change.  On this machine F10 takes you to BIOS and F9 takes you to a boot options screen..  I tried F9 and manually selecting USB and no change. 

 

I tried Unetbootin as well as win32diskimage to make various bootable OpenELEC, and XUbuntu images on 3 different USB sticks and no change..  its like its not detecting the USB in the machine.

 

 

I don't know what else to do??? 

 

1. I can't update the BIOS as it needs to be done from Windows per HP's page, RIGHT? 

2. How else can I install a O/S if can't boot from USB, and no access to a CD/DVD for this machine? 

3. Anyone else have any suggestions?? 

 

 

please advise, 

 

 

Regards,

 

Phabeon



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#2 JohnC_21

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Posted 14 June 2015 - 09:26 PM

Try creating a bootable USB with Rufus. Where Freedos is listed in the dropdown box select iso image. Click the folder icon and browse to your iso image. Press Start. Attach the USB flash drive to the computer. Boot and select the USB flash drive from the boot menu.

 

If Rufus does not boot then try Yumi. Select your flash drive in the first dropdown box. In step 2 select your linux distro. In step 3 browse to the iso file.



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Posted 14 June 2015 - 10:54 PM

Instead of using BIOS to try detect the thumb drive, try one time boot menu (usually F12 or F10) and select the thumb drive.



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Posted 15 June 2015 - 04:35 PM

Instead of using BIOS to try detect the thumb drive, try one time boot menu (usually F12 or F10) and select the thumb drive.

 

good suggestions, unfortunately as outlined above, I did try that and no change. 

 

Will try RUFUS when I get home tonight..

 

However, lets assume BIOS is the culprit, is there a way to update it even if I don't have access to the Windows Operating system?  I keep seeing hints of DOS as a way to update it but not finding concrete guides on this..

 

 

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 10:43 AM

RUFUS failed as well..   to recap I have 3-5 different Linux distro's handy.. and I have 3 USB sticks, 2gb, 4gb, 8gb. 

 

I have used win32disk image, Uneetbootin, and now Rufus to throw the various distros on these USB sticks, and plugged them into various USB outlets on my machine and tried to boot from USB..

 

NOTHING, its like the machine is not recognizing that there is usb sticks inserted, or somehow perhaps the linux bootup file is not there or not recognized?

 

 

I have one more trick up my sleeve before just throwing this machine off the 36'th floor of my office.. 

 

oNe



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Posted 16 June 2015 - 04:00 PM

I don't know if this computer has UEFI instead of a regular BIOS but see if there is a setting for Legacy or CSM boot. See if you have luck with Yumi as that uses Grub for a bootloader.



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Posted 16 June 2015 - 05:35 PM

Take a closer look at the BIOS.  I seem to remember an option to disable booting from USB.  It might be in the security section.



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Posted 17 June 2015 - 12:11 PM

GOT IT!!

 

Gentlemen, 

 

thanks for all the helpful suggestions and insight, learned a little more about the BIOS then I bargained for with this and your guy's suggestions...

 

Here is my resolution in case anyone has similar issues:

 

1. I used RUFUS to create a bootable Win7(v/s the linux distors I was using) usb stick

2. For some reason that worked and I was able to boot from USB and installed Windows 7

3. From Windows 7 I went to HP's page for my computer, downloaded and installed the latest BIOS

4. Went to BIOS and set it to boot from USB(like I was doing previously)

5. Was now able to boot into Linux distros

 

running Openelec as we speak..

 

Case closeD!

 

 

thanks again!

 

 

oNe



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Posted 17 June 2015 - 12:24 PM

Glad you got it sorted out. Thanks for taking the time to post an update on the resolution.






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