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Windows 8.1 and A.V. Software


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#1 mikem3

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 12:49 PM

This may not be in the correct place, if not I apologise if you have

to move it.

 

I got a new PC running Windows 8.1.

 

Reading in another thread I see that if any ant-virus software is

installed, it will interfere with the installed windows A.V.

 

The computer arrived with Macafee already installed and running,

it seems to be dominant in this machine.

 

Should I keep the Macafee, or should I ditch it and let the Windows

one protect the computer?

 

I am wary about Macafee, in many cases it is bolted on to downloads,

this makes me think that it is not so good.

 

Any replies will be appreciated.

 

Mike.


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Posted 07 June 2015 - 12:56 PM

Hi there,

The built-in AV for Windows 8 is Windows Defender, which offers the same level of protection as Microsoft Security Essentials.

McAfee LiveSafe is usually loaded as OEM software, and be noted that it's not free - you will need to renew it when it expires (I don't know how long). Whether to use McAfee or switch to Windows Defender is your choice.

Personally I am not a fan of McAfee, but that varies on an individual basis I suppose.

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 01:14 PM

Off-the-shelf computers typically do come with a free trial of Norton or McAfee or whatever the computer manufacturer uses for those free trials.

 

If you decide you don't want to use McAfee, uninstall it from your system.



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 01:40 PM

"Reading in another thread I see that if any ant-virus software is installed, it will interfere with the installed windows A.V."

I do not know what context it was written in but it should mean do not run more than one real-time anti-virus program

 

If you wish to uninstall McAfee, have an immediate alternate A.V. to install

--- Most likely the installed McAfee programs includes more than just an A.V. program

--- Anti-spyware, firewall and maintenance programs 

--- Some of the maintenance programs probably need setup procedures to be implemented and scheduled

 

But the overall approach should be

--- Learn what the program does so you know what it's doing and whether or not it suits you

--- Now "whether or not it suits you" does take time & experience between the programs performance and your personal experience

 

I do not favor any security package over another: the key is does it do its job & do you understand what it's doing?

--- That said you could consider calling your ISP: the cost of it's internet security package might be included in your plan



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 02:07 PM

If you wish to uninstall McAfee, have an immediate alternate A.V. to install

With Windows 8, you don't need to - the built in Windows Defender is an AV. The moment another AV is uninstalled, Windows Defender will reactivate.

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Posted 07 June 2015 - 03:12 PM

Thank you all for your replies.

 

On my old computer I had Trusteer which was supplied by my bank

and it is very effective, I also had Malwarebytes for doing system scans.

 

cmptrgy

 

"Reading in another thread I see that if any ant-virus software is installed, it will interfere with the installed windows A.V."

I do not know what context it was written in but it should mean do not run more than one real-time anti-virus program

 

The other place where I read this is in the windows 8 - 8.1 forum,

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/578541/windows-xp-to-windows-81/

I was looking for "How to get rid of the start log-in page".

 

Because of the statement there, I decided to ask for guidance.

 

Thank you all once again.

 

Mike.



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 03:54 PM

Hi Alex "With Windows 8, you don't need to - the built in Windows Defender is an AV. The moment another AV is uninstalled, Windows Defender will reactivate." Thanks, that's good to know



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 07:51 PM

Expanding on what has already been said...Windows Defender on Windows 8 integrates a more robust version of Windows Defender (and uses that name) for its anti-virus and anti-malware protection. Although it uses the same name, it is not the same as Defender in previous operating systems. Windows Defender 8 provides the same level of protection against malware as Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) provides on older operation systems and uses the same daily virus definition updates.Since Windows 8 Defender includes anti-virus protection, it may be disabled by the installation of a third-party anti-virus program. If a trial anti-virus (i.e. McAfee, Norton, etc) came preinstalled on your computer or you installed one, it most likely turned Windows 8 Defender off (disabled) to avoid conflicts. Windows 8 Defender will remain disabled until that anti-virus software has been completely uninstalled. In some cases, you may need to download and run the anti-virus vendor's clean up tool to remove any remaining remnants...then Windows 8 Defender needs to be activated if you choose to use it. When uninstalling the third-party anti-virus you may receive a message indicated your system has no protection...click here to turn on Windows Defender. If not, you will need to manually turn it on.
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Posted 07 June 2015 - 07:56 PM

If you plan on removing McAfee, the vendor recommends that you uninstall using the Windows Control Panel before running the MCPR (McAfee Consumer Products Removal tool)...see the IMPORTANT note in How to uninstall or reinstall McAfee products using the Consumer Products Removal tool (MCPR)Note: Sometimes the uninstall works more effectively if you first stop and disable the program's service (and associated processes in Task Manager) or perform the removal in safe mode so there are less processes which can interfere with the uninstallation.
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Posted 08 June 2015 - 10:30 AM

Some great advice and links quietman, thank you.

 

I already removed the McAfee yesterday, it went

kicking and screaming about being removed when

there was an active account with 26 days to go.

 

Afterwards there were issues with the Defender,

it wouldn't turn on, I tried all sorts of things and in

the end I re-booted the PC, after which all is smooth.

 

Thanks again to everybody for your advice and help.

 

Mike.



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Posted 08 June 2015 - 01:36 PM

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