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#1 RbtCmpt

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 11:21 AM

Then it prompts to "Reserve your free upgrade to Windows 10 now."

 

What are they doing this for?



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Posted 01 June 2015 - 11:22 AM

Please see the following thread:

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/578012/windows-10-being-pushed-out-to-windows-7-and-windows-81-users/

They are pushing out the reservation process for Windows 10, and it'll be used to upgrade your current version (7 or 8.1) when the time comes, or after if you wish.

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 11:34 AM

One question,it says they will upgrade to the edition that you have.Mine just says Windows8.1 core edition.Can someone tell me what that is.



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Posted 01 June 2015 - 11:36 AM

Windows 8.1 "core" edition is the standard Windows 8.1, so you'll upgrade to Windows 10 Home.

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 11:41 AM

Thank-you and I'm screwed on the updates.Says home users will have no control over them.They'll be installed automatically.



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Posted 01 June 2015 - 11:41 AM

 

Oh, now I get it...you're committed to it once you do this.

I pledge allegiance to  the Window and to the monopoly for which it stands...wait a minute...I dunno :-()



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Posted 01 June 2015 - 11:43 AM

That's right, Windows 10 Home users won't be able to control the Windows Updates, only starting at Windows 10 Professional will you be able to do that.

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 04:26 PM

Post #5:

A good reason not to "upgrade" to windows 10.

Regarding upgrades:
windows 7, 8 and 8.1 users should probably be setting their windows update settings to "check automatically but ask be whether i want to download and install", this way they shouldn't get caught off guard by any follow-ups to KB3035583 and forcibly upgraded to 10. If a forcible upgrade comes out at some point, like ms has been attempting to do with the 8 to 8.1 transition.

EDIT: Just as a note KB3035583 has done this stuff right now, but future actions involving upgrades to 10 might involve other updates or might be done with further things involving KB3035583. KB3035583 might someday try to cause forced updgrades, or it might be another update entirely doing this, or it might not happen. Follow-ups to KB3035583 would be like the follow ups (KB2973544 and KB3008273) which came after KB2871389 in the 8 to 8.1 transition.

The 8 to 8.1 transition: KB2871389 came first, then KB2973544 and KB3008273 made it forcible for users who had accepted KB2871389.

The 8.1 to 10 transition: KB3035583 comes first, who knows whether it will have nasty follow-ups or whether it will perform further actions by itself.

Edited by rp88, 01 June 2015 - 05:26 PM.

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 04:38 PM

That's right, Windows 10 Home users won't be able to control the Windows Updates, only starting at Windows 10 Professional will you be able to do that.

Aura

 

My OS is Windows 7 Home Premium, I guess I won't be able to control Windows Updates. What are the pro and cons of that, should I be worried about?

My system is 5 year old and if I understand correctly (from some links provided by a forum member) some component may not be supported by 10. 

 

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 04:42 PM

You're right Vecchio. Since you have Windows 7 Home Premium, you'll be upgraded to Windows 10 which doesn't allow the management of the Windows Updates. The pros is that you don't have to worry about installing them or finding the time to install them since they'll install automatically all the time, which means that your OS will always be up-to-date, which is a good thing, mostly part of basic security measures on a computer. The consequence is that if Microsoft pushes a buggy update or an update for a feature you wouldn't want (but you could still live with), then you won't be able to remove it, opt-it out, etc. Trying to find a little picture for you.

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 04:55 PM

The consequence is that if Microsoft pushes a buggy update or an update for a feature you wouldn't want (but you could still live with), then you won't be able to remove it, opt-it out, etc. 

:hello: 

 

This is worrying to me. A buggy update could potentially leaving me without the use of my computer for a while. I run my business through it and delays could be costly.

I may have to stick to 7 until upgrading my system all together.

 

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 04:57 PM

I think that Microsoft will be more careful in the future now before pushing such updates. We'll have to wait and see.

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 05:08 PM

Yes, also (as you suggest in a previous post) it make sense to wait until the very end to upgrade.

 

Post #5:

A good reason not to "upgrade" to windows 10.

Regarding upgrades:
windows 7, 8 and 8.1 users should probably be setting their windows update settings to "check automatically but ask be whether i want to download and install", this way they shouldn't get caught off guard by anything like KB3035583 and forcibly upgraded to 10. If a forcible upgrade comes out at some point, like ms has been attempting to do with the 8 to 8.1 transition.

Thanks for the tip, I was just wondering what would happen next after I booked for the upgrade.



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Posted 01 June 2015 - 05:32 PM

Rp is missing the point. This update doesn't force a Windows 10 upgrade but no matter how many time we say so, a lot of people still dont get it. You dont have to upgrade to Windows 10 with this update.

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 06:06 PM

Aura my man.

 

Lot of people come to this forums because we do not understand much about IT. It is quite understandable that we get very jittery when it comes to changes to the way we are used to do things.  :unsure:

 

We do appreciate very very much the help you and all others are offering us.

 

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