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#166 britechguy

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Posted 24 August 2017 - 09:55 AM

Rufus can definitely create a W10 bootable USB drive.  It will reformat the drive as NTFS in order to do so if that's necessary based on the ISO size.  I often do that anyway by intention as part of the process even if Rufus doesn't choose to do it automatically.

 

I just plugged in the last bootable USB drive I created just a few days ago, and I know I didn't intentionally set NTFS this time, but it's definitely formatted as NTFS and I used Rufus to create it.

 

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Posted 24 August 2017 - 11:36 AM

Rufus can definitely create a W10 bootable USB drive.  It will reformat the drive as NTFS in order to do so if that's necessary based on the ISO size.  I often do that anyway by intention as part of the process even if Rufus doesn't choose to do it automatically.

 

I just plugged in the last bootable USB drive I created just a few days ago, and I know I didn't intentionally set NTFS this time, but it's definitely formatted as NTFS and I used Rufus to create it.

 

As my tag line says:  Been there, done that, got the T-Shirt.

 

britechguy (& Rocky), thanks for your input! :thumbup2:

 

BTW, my ISO was reported larger than what fits on DVD, so that's why I asked, Windows10_InsiderPreview_Client_x64_en-us_16251.iso weighing in at 4.39GB. Must have caught a coaster & overlooked, since up to 4.7GB fits on DVD's, human error on that end. was thinking it was 4.8GB because ImgBurn was saying so & asking permission for an 'overburn'. I bet anything that I didn't erase the drive long enough, performed the quick one (RW media) that was used for Previews before W10 was officially released as 'GA' status. I'll ensure that the DVD is fully erased before further use.

 

Will try and clean install with Rufus, once this upgrade completes.

 

BTW, that latest recommended graphics driver also messed up my stable W10 Pro install in the same manner, so maybe it was either Preview or not intended for a 2012 model AMD Radeon 7770 GHz edition. :)

 

Thanks for the advise! :thumbsup:

 

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Posted 24 August 2017 - 07:51 PM

Am finally up & running again on Windows10_InsiderPreview_Client_x64_en-us_16251 (17021-1512), upgraded by mounting ISO & clicking 'Setup', signed in on the Slow lane, so hopefully will have a fairly stable OS at least through this cycle. :)

 

http://speccy.piriform.com/results/0uada2N4zhGqSFATdCnRjxe

 

BTW, did get Rufus to create a bootable USB stick in case needed, or should I desire a clean install in the future, although for whatever reason, couldn't get the OS to burn on my DVD RW media. It 4.7GB capacity like others, so there must be an issue with the media. Not that I have any complaints, the 5 pack of Verbatim DVD's has been used countless times over, considering I got the set marked down at Walmart for $5. My only regret is that I didn't get at least 4 more sets, while I took a chance on the one set & won, this was over 6 years ago & are now showing their age. Some has been erased & reburned over a hundred times when a TechNet member that covered a two year timespan, long before I knew of booting from USB sticks & these were more costly per/GB than today. :)

 

For now, unless I have anymore issues, will let the upgrade stand, although when the OS release becomes final, will then perform a clean install, need to purge some older software, to include some Microsoft provided extras that keeps reinstalling with major upgrades. One of which is some form of downloader issued by Microsoft, the digital signature was shown in the threat, ESET Smart Security removed this after each upgrade attempt, other than the one botched by an upgrade from Windows Update, where SuperAntiSpyware removed after a full OS scan. Don't know what Microsoft is up to with these tricks (why now offer a feature 5+ years after the rest of the pack?), other than I'm glad that the threat (real or false positive) was promptly removed.

 

It's been some time back, maybe late 2014, when AVG 2014 Free yanked a keystroke logger out of an early W10 Technical Preview, so am not new to seeing these things happen. In fact, somewhere within this section, I posted pictures of the first attempt of removal, required booting into Safe Mode to forcibly remove it, followed by scanning with other security tools to finish removing the remnants. I didn't agree to have Microsoft keeping up with every symbol I press & still don't, when there's opportunity, always disable the option across all browsers. 

 

Will download a fresh copy of O&O Shutup 10 & use as needed. :)

 

BTW, the performance of the PC is pretty decent for a 'sleeper' Dimension 2400 (2003-04 era). :thumbsup:

 

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Nothing that a GTX 1050 Ti (4GB GDDR5) GPU & faster SSD can't fix, as well as upgrading RAM to a total of 20GB, the latter of which I have on hand. The other two items can be caught on promo, although at the moment, have higher priorities for upgrade funds that I stash monthly. I believe the added 8GB of RAM will have a very noticeable effect in overall performance & may also pump up the CPU score a bit. :)

 

With the RAM upgrade & the Slow ride until next OS is released to the general public, should be good for awhile. :)

 

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Posted 13 September 2017 - 12:14 PM

The first official build that was designated version 1709 sure had some delivery problems;

 

https://www.tenforums.com/windows-10-news/93293-announcing-windows-10-insider-fast-build-16288-pc-15250-mobile.html

 

I myself will make a fresh ISO file from the Canonical UUP files and do a clean install. This will give me version 1709 without a watermark.


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Posted 13 September 2017 - 04:42 PM

OK, I just did a clean install of Version 1709 build 16288. Everything is working fine.

 

I downloaded the UUP files from Microsoft and created my own ISO. It was breeze and the whole process only took about 40 minutes. This build is working great but I am still checking out this Fall Update build.


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Posted 14 September 2017 - 03:38 AM

While I haven't booted into the PC with the W10 Preview for over a week, have missed out on the last upgrade, the only 'bug' I've had so far is ESET's secure Banking browser isn't working. :thumbup2:

 

I reported the issue via the Feedback Hub, hopefully others has & will be fixed in later builds, if not already. Haven't had time to run the single 10 Preview system due to performing some work for others & myself, just upgraded an Optiplex 740 DT edition (2006 era) to W10 CU (last stable release) & seems to be running fine, although slower than my newer systems with SSD's. In fact, it's my last remaining PC with HDD only, this is only because it has a NVIDIA (BTX) MB installed, while the SATA-2 ports are there, no needed AHCI support for SSD's. Had to make a choice with the one PCIe x16 slot, install a SATA-3 card (that would run at SATA-2 speeds) & an upgraded GPU, if not for the latter, I doubt the system would support W10. 

 

Oddly, this is the only system with a SATA HDD that I could install W2K & XP on w/out the need of slipstreaming of drivers into the install media, or tap 'F6' to add. :P

 

Prices are dropping, so may consider grabbing an Intel based Optiplex 745, or better yet, 780 replacement MB. The latter supports & requires double sided DDR3 memory modules (if larger than 2GB each) up to 16GB, for better performance & support, at $25-35, the cost is tempting. Just need to carefully review seller feedback & reviews, some are junk peddlers who are here today, gone tomorrow. Yet there's others who has been in the business for a decade or longer, these are my preferred sellers, because if needed, will make things right to protect their reputation. :)

 

Am considering installing the latest W10 Preview on my Optiplex 780 with a Intel Core2Quad 9650 that's already running W10 CU, will be interesting to see how long these legacy systems remains supported for future W10 upgrades. At some point, I fully expect to be locked out of upgrades, yet that time isn't quite here as of the moment. :)

 

I find it kind of humorous that Microsoft always adds this with any W10 download, just as with 8.1. :lol:

 

 

 

  • After you install Windows 10 Insider Preview, you won’t be able to use the recovery partition on your PC to go back to your previous version of Windows.

 

Which is 100% untrue if running a BIOS/MBR based computer, just use a partition tool, mark the recovery partition as Active & will reload Windows 7 as fresh as new upon reboot. Also, a physical drive image with Macrium Reflect or any backup software (other than the Windows onboard backup) created prior to upgrading to W10 (recommended) will allow one to 'go back' to their prior version of Windows regardless of what they say. And even on a UEFI/GPT based computer, one has the chance before any OS upgrades to create a bootable system recovery drive with the option of copying the recovery partition itself. The truth being, Microsoft doesn't want consumers to know these things, they want as many as possible to remain on W10 (stable or Preview)......forever. 

 

While W10 (to include Previews) may indeed be more secure than W7 or 8.1, uses a lot more resources, AV & AM scans takes up to 2x as long to complete, a sure sign of being bogged down, even after an extended Disk Cleanup. For best results, a clean install is ideal when there's an available ISO to use, while the upgrade process has been improved over the last 2-3 years, still leaves a bit to be desired. If one wants an in place upgrade, performing with an ISO by mounting & executing Setup tends to have a better outcome over these shipping from Windows Update. :)

 

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Posted 22 September 2017 - 09:38 PM

AM. 09/19 Version 1709 OS Build RS3_Release 16291.1
AM. 09/22 Version 1709 OS Build RS3_Release 16294.1
PM. 09/22 Version 1709 OS Build RS3_Release 16296.1



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Posted 23 September 2017 - 03:38 AM

AM. 09/19 Version 1709 OS Build RS3_Release 16291.1
AM. 09/22 Version 1709 OS Build RS3_Release 16294.1
PM. 09/22 Version 1709 OS Build RS3_Release 16296.1

 

Same here, the upgrades came in so fast that I didn't have the chance to image either after testing, when getting ready to on the middle build, time to install another! :)

 

Has to be getting ready for release, the (usual) watermark bearing the serial of OS now gone, a matter of a couple of weeks (if that) before being available to the general public. Now time to decide to unpack where at or stay with the program. For one PC, will easily be able to move forward, with my (2006 model) Dell Optiplex 740, have to decide to settle down or put the pedal to the medal to see how far an older PC (although decently equipped) can go. Both the PC & GPU has been upgraded, can go with a Phenom (true quad or six core) instead of AM3 quad core Athlon ll x4 630 if needed. The only downside to both are a slight loss of RAM performance, in an AM2 MB, all upgrades to AM2+/AM3 CPU's are running in single channel mode, rather than dual. If going by the WEI scale, a .1 drop. Good that I have a somewhat newer discrete GPU installed, as I don't believe the onboard NVIDIA nForce 4xx/7025 series would work with W10 Creator's Update, let alone future builds, there's long been a W10 driver for the Dell Radeon 7570 1GB GDDR5 GPU. :)

 

BTW, the ESET Payment & Payment Protection browser is now working as intended, actually was on the prior release to the last one, just had no chance to report back, as the releases kept on pouring in after a two week absence. I made sure to once again add the issue to the Feedback Hub & after successful fix, am sure that I wasn't the only Insider by a long shot affected by this, and for those of us who decides to march forward, may (although shouldn't) encounter the bug again. :P

 

The last release appears 'road ready' as it gets & I'd not be surprised in the least to see it ship by the end of month, which is bearing down on us fast! :)

 

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Posted 23 September 2017 - 10:20 AM

Build 16296 does have a watermark, but I was able to keep up with all installations and create new installation media for most of these preview builds.


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Posted 24 September 2017 - 05:24 AM

Rocky, I couldn't find the media for Build 16296, unless one of those decrypters (such as ESD to ISO) are used for creation. :)

 

Last time I tried using the tool, and only 2-3 days after a new Preview, some or most of the needed files were totally gone, plus have already ran the extended Disk Cleanup, being all was working, seen no need to have nearly 25GB of useless data stored on a SSD, that's a lot of writes. Have been considering going with HDD's after this round is over, mainly because with every new build, have to perform all of my custom settings again, example, the regedit edits to restore a couple of values to '0' instead of '3', have to disable hibernation & reduce pagefile size, and my power plan settings gets wiped out. Have to add back the AHCI power registry setting, which disables parking of HDD's of brands where the WDIDLE3 tool doesn't work (non-WD drives). The below link has been updated for W10, yet has been in use at least since the W7 (& maybe Vista) days. 

 

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/72971-add-ahci-link-power-management-power-options-windows-10-a.html

 

The constant start/stop cycles are the true HDD killers, not time powered on, this was evidenced fast by a WD RE4 I had purchased in 2015, with nearly 20,000 hours (over 2 years) power on time, and less than 120 total start/stop cycles (used in a server that was rarely powered down). Within a single day in my desktop as a Data drive, the latter value had nearly tripled & this is when I researched & discovered the WDIDLE3 utility (only for WD branded drives), and placed it in use immediately. Now the start/stop cycles are consistent with the times I power & shutdown the PC, rather than at 8 second intervals, note that one can set the value higher if desired, however that only prolongs the inevitable, not avoids it, disabling the feature is best. For those with non-WD drives, the Power tweak found on the above page fixes this, after downloading & merging with registry, under one's selected Power Option, select 'Change Advanced Power Settings', set the Hard Disk to 'Active' & option  below to '0', which means Never (like so in below pic). No more power cycling of HDD, regardless of brand. :)

 

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The above is why beginning with the next Preview, may consider using one of my RE4's & save the writes on my SSD's, getting a new Preview every week or two are huge massive writes, as it's not only the 3-4GB of data downloaded, a brand new OS is created using this. That's why the 'windows.old' folder becomes disposable, a newer & larger one is created. Still have to decide on staying within the Insider Program, since there's a RE4 in my Optiplex 740 which doesn't support SSD's, may as well push the 2006 model PC to the limit, at least then I'd begin to see how long it'll be supported, it may be that a simple & low cost CPU upgrade (for less than $35 on eBay) all that's required to keep pounding. :thumbsup:

 

Am currently bidding on a AMD Phenom x4 965 (125W), while not as popular today, at time of release a true workhorse sought by many, and hasn't lost as much of it's original value through the years, compared to Intel counterparts. Passmark results puts it ahead of my Intel Core2Quad 9650 running W10 Pro, although by only a two point margin, still a lead is just that, and performance can be further boosted by faster RAM (1866-2400MHz) & CPU overclocking. The Q9650, although an unlocked CPU, is installed in an Optiplex 780 w/out any adjustments available, running two sets of DDR3-1600 modules at nearly half of the advertised speed (533Mhz or so), a chipset limitation. The Phenom 965 x4 would be replacing a 945 (95W) in a ASRock 970M Pro3 MB with lots of headroom to OC everything, will be ready for the next Preview should I win. One way or the other, will get my hands on one of these legacy Phenoms, they're like classic cars. :)

 

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=1050&cmp[]=370

 

Hey, just because we're Insiders doesn't mean we have to run components as is, enthusiasts can carry on as usual. :thumbsup:

 

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Posted 24 September 2017 - 01:13 PM

cat, I always love reading your posts, they act as mini stories that pack a lot of useful information. Regarding my statement about creating installation media for these new Insider Preview builds, it is a complicated process. Since Microsoft has moved away from using the old ESD installation files as a way to update a users computer from one build to another, the process of creating installation media from downloaded files has become much more difficult.

 

Microsoft now uses what it calls the canonical UUP method, (totally unrelated to Ubuntu Canonical.)  Using the new UUP method, the files are now very numerous and scattered. One must collect all of the files and then create an installation media (ISO) in a very convoluted manner.

 

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2016/11/03/introducing-unified-update-platform-uup/

 

But the way I make my installation media is very professional and the end product is a regular ISO that anybody can use to install an Insider Preview build into their system

 

I actually collect installation media and I have a collection of ISO files that date back several years. I have an ISO for Windows 7 and Windows 7 with the SP2 installed. I have ISOs for both Windows 8 and 8.1. I have about 30 different ISOs for Windows 10 dating back a few years, all of the favorite builds going back to pre-release.

 

My Linux ISO collection includes several different Mint ISOs that date back 2014 and Ubuntu dating back to 14.04. I have several Debian, OPENsuse, Manjaro, Fedora and several other ISOs. It is a fun hobby and it doesn't cost anything. Anytime someone needs an old ISO I can create a link and they can download it from my collection.

 

The next couple of weeks of Insider Previews promises to be very active since the release date of 1709 has already been announced to the public. I might not make installation media for every build but I will certainly read all of the notes and decide which ones I want to keep for posterity.

 

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 03:22 AM

Rocky, am happy that you enjoy my posts, good to hear for those who appreciates my effort. Some folks are good at making a point with fewer words, I'm not & never have been. :)

 

Also, thanks for making me aware of what the Canonical UUP downloads are for, have seen these, although didn't bother, because of where hosted. After a quick Google search (my personal digital assistant) AskVG led me to these 2-3 days ago, although not the latest ISO. This is where Cortana falls on her face, still cannot direct me to the nearest dentist that's within eyesight of my PC room & can reach their guest network when using wireless, although locked. Instead, she guides me to one almost three miles away. :P

 

Now about that watermark you were saying on the last Build (I presume 16294 as shown below), while I had it (probably 16296) on my Optiplex 740 (OS very unstable & reverted to W7, as the last CU was likely the last upgrade it was going to run), it's not showing on this one, the PC that went through three upgrades in two days. Check out the desktop picture below & make note of the date of the shown Microsoft EULA. If you see a watermark, feel free to point it out. :)

 

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Also check this out, the data can be generated using Powershell (or cmd) as Administrator & typing this simple command: slmgr /dlv . Note that due to sensitive information regarding my computer, had to cover up a couple of lines, the Install & Activation ID's. Otherwise, shows a Retail install of W10 Pro & note that the date and time of the command ran is too close to this posting to find a random image on Google to post here. :lol:

 

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I remember a pop-up in regards to something about the lead lady (Dona) over the Windows Insider Program asking select members to participate & would be rewarded accordingly, I clicked to agree, this leads me back to 2015. Early Insiders (the ones who were participating before spring of that year) received early activations, mine came 12 days before other machines I later joined, and one is a standalone VM that never had an underlying OS. Meaning that I could had built a PC, and just ran the early Previews & become activated, what's the difference? Unless the OS cannot be reinstalled clean, of course I have backups of the VM, scattered across several externals. In that case, with a freshly built PC, can keep the system imaged and have never purchased a license. I need to fire up that VM, hasn't been done in 18 months or longer, at least it won't have to go through 3-4 major upgrades & a few minor ones. Will upgrade using the latest ISO for best results, once the Fall CU becomes available for everyone. :)

 

Uh-oh, a warning for a restart, hope all holds well! :thumbsup:

 

BTW, I lost the bid for the Phenom x4 965 :o, didn't want to drop $40, maybe will be within my range ($25-30) come another year, noticed that the Intel Q9550/9650 CPU's have dropped sharply over the last 12-18 months, guess older tech isn't quite as much in demand, am surprised that a Phenom is holding it's value better than some of the FX line. Can get a brand new FX-4300 quad for $54.99 w/out a promo code (FX-4350 for $10 more), although I don't know how (truly) these stack against the Phenom x4 965, neither are true quads. One thing in the FX series favor are newer instruction sets, this is where W10 will eventually cut off customers, at some point, newer versions won't install or will run like crap, that's something I'll have to consider. :)

 

Here's the Passmark report on each, note that even at it's age, the Phenom x4 965 is only 4 cents less than it's closest competitor in a new CPU. Amazing, considering that many of these has changed hands several times & has been in use 4 years longer than a new in box FX-4350. :)

 

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=370&cmp[]=1929&cmp[]=1814

 

Considering all of this, am now a bit leery of the Phenom x4 965, although won't hesitate to pay the same for a true 6 core 1100 series. These were before the days of false marketing that began with the FX series, there are no 8,6 & 4 cores, rather 2,3 & 4 cores with the same number of virtual ones under that lineup. I'll take real cores over virtual most every time & have no idea why AMD went that route from the beginning, the Phenom quads were outperforming the Intel Core2Quad 9550/9650 & some early i7's of it's day & with some tweaking, can likely outperform the above competitors. :)

 

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Edited by cat1092, 25 September 2017 - 05:37 AM.

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Posted 25 September 2017 - 04:36 AM

Guess I spoke too soon, now the watermark is back. :(

 

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Strange indeed, to have it on the latest, although not the prior, this makes 4 Previews in three days, now am at 10.0.26296.0, according to the same command ran earlier, Looks like I'll have to wait a bit longer for full activation, although the Install & Activation values remained the same, showing a Retail one. Maybe that's the base W10 values prior to joining the Insider Program, it's no longer open except to those running a genuine, activated W10 install. :)

 

At any rate, will be glad to see this one end, can then image the install before diving into RS4. :lol:

 

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Posted 05 October 2017 - 12:04 PM

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