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Flash Player/McAfee Boondoggle!


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#1 OldPhil

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 06:44 AM

Got a panic call from a buddy saying he picked up a virus, spent a couple of hours trying to find the cause if his sudden slow down.  I had asked if any software was down loaded he said no, then after all that time he says I did update Flash.  First question did you uncheck the McAfee box, answer what McAfee box.  Well another half hour up rooting McAfee and all was back to normal, McAfee was causing a conflict with his other security software.

 

To all when down loading any update/program not just Flash, open your eyes look for the tiny not to obvious check boxes and uncheck them.  It will save many hours of frustration for you and anyone helping you.

 

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 06:45 AM

And here I thought McAfee Security Scan Plus is like ESET Online Scanner... I'll have to check it out.

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 09:04 AM

It is, except that it somehow have a service on it's own, and it starts on startup, that's probably what caused the conflict.

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 09:12 AM

It's one of those opt-out "freebies" that comes with Adobe and other software, if the user is not careful.

 

It's another argument for obtaining one's Flash Player updates from here:

https://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html

No extra, unwanted goodies.

 

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 09:13 AM

Does both the .exe and .msi comes without bundled software, or just the .exe?

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 10:40 AM

It's one of those opt-out "freebies" that comes with Adobe and other software, if the user is not careful.

 

It's another argument for obtaining one's Flash Player updates from here:

https://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html

No extra, unwanted goodies.

 

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Tried the link it does have an McAfee box, we need a pinned beware post some plce.


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Posted 17 May 2015 - 10:50 AM

Yes we do. Maybe post in the malware forum? Since most PUPs are seen there.

Edited by Dragonlady24, 17 May 2015 - 10:51 AM.


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Posted 17 May 2015 - 10:53 AM

Hi:

 

Hmm, that's odd.

Are you sure you tried the correct URL????

I am no expert, but I have been installing Flash Player for ActiveX and Plug-In browsers from that link for years and years.

I have never seen anything bundled with those installers.

It should be a "slim" exe file with no bundled freebies.

Not sure why you're seeing a "McAfee" box????

 

Bundling of MSS, Chrome, and all sorts of goodies has been standard practice with Adobe, Oracle and countless other software publishers for years.

Nothing new there, I'm afraid.

 

Users always need to heed the install wizard and NOT click on things without reading the dialog windows.

Most of these are "opt-out".

 

See here: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/576329/what-about-malware-that-is-hidden-in-a-download/#entry3707622

 

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 10:55 AM

Does both the .exe and .msi comes without bundled software, or just the .exe?

 

I don't know about the msi, sorry.

But I presume it's also "slim", with no garbage.

 

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 10:57 AM

Then I'll give it a try when I go back on my computer. Also, isn't there already a list of software that bundles PUPs on Calendar of Updates? Its called the Hall of Shame I think? There's no need to create a sticky thread here for only one of them, a reference to that list could be added to an existing sticky, if its not already.

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 11:06 AM

MoxieMomma I cut and pasted your link, click on try it yourself.  Flash may be free but it has to pay bills hence the McAfee link.  That nasty little block has been included in their update for a very long time.


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Posted 17 May 2015 - 11:07 AM

If you download an Adobe product from Internet Explorer, last time I tried, it offers you Google Chrome and the Google Toolbar for Internet Explorer.

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 11:38 AM

Hi:

 

MoxieMomma I cut and pasted your link, click on try it yourself.  Flash may be free but it has to pay bills hence the McAfee link.  That nasty little block has been included in their update for a very long time.

 

Weird.

 

I cannot reproduce that behavior on my systems.

I just upgraded Flash Player a couple of days ago.

Nothing bundled when downloading in Firefox or installing both the Active-X and Plug-In versions.

 

I do use the Flash Player uninstaller first and then cleanly install from the slim exe installers (a holdover "best practice" from the old days of Flash Player).

But I've never seen, installed or been offered anything during the installation.

 

I do know that many Fx "power users" at forums.mozillazine.org have been using (and recommend) that site for Flash Player downloads for many years.

It has always worked for me.

 

I'm sorry, but I don't have a technical explanation for what you're seeing.

There must be something different about your system or configuration or browser or....?

Perhaps one of the more expert forum members can sort it out.

 

Sigh.

Sorry,

MM



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Posted 17 May 2015 - 12:19 PM

These are the offers you receive when you try to download an Adobe product from Internet Explorer (in that case, Adobe Acrobat Reader DC):

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And this is what you get in Google Chrome:

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I installed Adobe Flash Player from the .exe provided by this link:

https://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html

And it installed only Flash Player, nothing else.

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Posted 17 May 2015 - 06:42 PM

How is it that no one notices what is in the middle pane in the link below?

 

https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/


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