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#1 ryrhino

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 06:02 PM

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Windows 8.1 64 bit operating system. I don't have a Microsoft account.
I have two different external drives. I am unable to get file history to turn on with either drive. I have done a web search and have seen that others have this same issue. Is this an issue with file history? I am able to view files/folders on my external drives. I have tried different USB ports and I get the same results. I have tried to turn on file history through the control panel and through pc settings.
  I turned on file history in services under admistrator tools and it does turn on but when I close that window file history turns off.  My externals are formated to NTFS.

Also tried to use file history with a flash drive but was unable to get it to work.

If this is an issue that can't be resolved should I use software such as FBackup or Genine Time line?

I use free aomei backupper for system backups.  They do have a file/folder save option.  What would be the difference in useing any of the above software or using copy/paste to put folders/files on external?

Any help and suggestions are appreciated.

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 06:05 PM

Hi ryrhino :)

What solutions did you try so far, anything else other than what you just mentionned? Can you go in Services.msc, and make sure that the Windows Search service is running?

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 06:16 PM

Windows search services was not running but I enabled it.  I then tried to turn on file history through the control panel and was unable to turn on file history.  I do not know of any other options to try other that what I have already said.

When I tried to turn on file history after windows services was enabled with my external plugged in I got the no usable drives message.  Does not matter which usb port is used.



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Posted 14 May 2015 - 06:26 PM

Let's try something. We'll use Windows Repair AIO to reset the permission on the default services and see if it allows you to enable the File History one.

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NOTE: Before following to step below, please disable your Antivirus software or any other real-time security software that you have enabled.
  • Download the portable version of Windows Repair All-In-One;
  • Move the file (archive) on your Desktop, and extract it there;
  • Go in the tweaking.com_windows_repair_aio folder, then Tweaking.com - Windows Repair folder, right-click on Repair_Windows.exe and select Run as Administrator;
  • From there, click on the Next button until you are presented with an Open Repairs button and click on it;
  • Let the Registry back up complete, and move on to the check-list window;
  • Click on the Unselect All button at the bottom, then check the following items:
    • 03 - Reset Service Permissions;
    • 26 - Restore Important Windows Services;
    • 27 - Set Windows Services To Default Startup;
  • Once done, click on the Start Repairs button and let the scan execute;
  • If you are being prompted with a Security Warning, allow it to go through;
  • Once the repair is complete, it'll ask you to restart your computer, please do it;
  • Give it a go and let me know how it goes.

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Posted 16 May 2015 - 06:42 PM

I was able to get file history to turn on using zImGw67.pngWindows Repair All-In-One

Thanks for that suggestion.  Don't know why that worked just glad it did.  I have used that software in the past.  How do I know when I need to run that software if ever?

 

File history only runs when something new is added to the folders is that correct?

If the settings in file history is set to daily when does file history run?

Which settings in file history do you suggest using if you use it.

 

What is the difference in using file history or FBackup?

Which one is more reliable to restore files/folders if needed?



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Posted 16 May 2015 - 06:47 PM

How do I know when I need to run that software if ever?


It's really situational. Usually, I rely on it when common solutions don't work for a specific issue or if I feel that there's too many permission issues, and or corruption on the system.

File history only runs when something new is added to the folders is that correct?
If the settings in file history is set to daily when does file history run?
Which settings in file history do you suggest using if you use it.


There's an article on Microsoft TechNet which explains how File History works and how to use it, I suggest you to give it a read :)

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/dn448546.aspx

What is the difference in using file history or FBackup?
Which one is more reliable to restore files/folders if needed?


Personally I can't tell because I never used FBackup. Of course, third-party backup software might often be better than File History, since they offer more control over the backup feature, as well as additional settings and options. But since I've never really used any of them, I cannot tell. If you just want to backup a few files/folders, I would go with File History since it wouldn't be worth installing a third-party program and taking hard drive space for that task.

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