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#1 clayto

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Posted 01 May 2015 - 05:00 AM

I have just started researching the worid of Portable Appss / Programs .  The main motivation in my case is to be able to install apps on my 14GB Memory Card instead of the low capacity HDD C drive, on my small Tablet PC.  I hope to treat the Memory Card as if it were a Partition D of the HDD ---- as far as possible.
 
I was astonished to find how developed the Portable option has become, with some impressive sites and large and rapidly growing offering of Portable apps, a great many of them freeware. For my purposes I divide them into two groups, one includes apps I am not familar with which I wii browse later while  the second is made up of Portable apps which are versions of programs I already use.  Firefox, Thunderbird and Foxit pdf are good examples.  I have installed Firefox Portable OK.  If it proves satisfactory the next step will be to uninstall the Desktop Firefox from my,HDD, saving space. This may not be without some problems  ----- for exampe the first time I tried with Glary Utilities I found unexpectly the app on the D drive was getting uninstalled as well as that on the C drive. I stopped the download but too late, the program had already been damaged and will have to be re-installed.  Does anyone have suggestions on how to overcome this difficulty?
 
The Thunderbird download (and some others)  may be accompanied by the download of a useful  Portable App Manager --free, which has been developed by the owners of the site http://portableapps.com/ .  It can be downloaded seperately from the start page.  I wont give any more links because they can be easily found just searching for 'Portable Apps'.
 
I have carried out searches on Bleeping Computersr for portable apps and the issues that will be involved, developing, installing and benefits of using them; and found very little of relevance. I think we should have a separate Forum or subsection.  How do we get that set up if others agree?  Of course, there Forums developing elsewhere for Portable Apps but as Bleeping is my favourite source of information and advice I would like to see it here.  Portable computing is fairly new, is rapidly growing and I am sure will be a major aspect of computing in future.

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Posted 01 May 2015 - 07:04 AM

I have carried out searches on Bleeping Computersr for portable apps and the issues that will be involved, developing, installing and benefits of using them; and found very little of relevance.


This means that there's close to no activity when it comes to Portable Apps, so there would be no point in creating a section if there's no activity for it. If one day there's a boum of activity for Portable Apps and Grinler judges that a new section should be created for it, it'll happen I imagine. For now, I don't see how Portable Apps shouldn't be posted in this section. Their functions are the same or less as their "installed" version. It's not a different world if you ask me, it's just that instead of installing it on a system, you extract its content where you want, simple as that.

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Posted 01 May 2015 - 08:13 PM

I'm quite a fan of PortableApps.com. For a while I was using several portable apps as my default applications, but
now adays I just keep some handy for emergency use. I prefer portable applications because they're more flexible
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Posted 01 May 2015 - 08:31 PM

I prefer The Portable Freeware Collection apps to portableapps.com versions.

 

PortableApps require you to install their apps within their own container.  Portable Freeware has usually figured out a way to just add an .ini file to to the install folder and avoid the registry.  If an app isn't truly portable they will warn you.



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Posted 02 May 2015 - 12:04 PM

I have taken a look at the Freeware Collection site. It does seem very good. I have only just discovered Portable Apps so it is too early for me to make a judgement between different offerings.  I need to give several a try.

 

I am happy to post here.  But the 'lack of activity' may be because it is taking place elsewhere perhaps?

 

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Posted 02 May 2015 - 12:07 PM

I am happy to post here. But the 'lack of activity' may be because it is taking place elsewhere perhaps?


On other forums, maybe. Like I said, portable apps are not much different from the ones you install. It's just that you can move them around in a compressed archive and uncompress them anywhere. If you want, you can create a thread for portable apps in the "All Other Applications" section, but I doubt a section dedicated only to Portable Apps will ever take off.

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Posted 03 May 2015 - 02:53 PM


you can create a thread for portable apps in the "All Other Applications" section

 

That could be a cool idea. List viable portable alternatives for stuff.



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Posted 06 May 2015 - 12:54 PM

One other thing to consider is that some third party portable app creators do not check with the original author. In order to gain permission to create a portable version of the application. Therefore the application is not truly a legitimate app. And for all intents and purposes is a pirated copy of the application.

This is quite a complex and gray area of the the software arena in which to offer support and guidance. At this point I am not sure we are able to support a full scale forum devoted to the topic of portable apps. However I will take the suggestion to the team and see what we can do.

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Posted 07 May 2015 - 08:33 PM

The portableapps.com site has a forum.  

 

Some software applications are developed into installable and as portable forms, so you just need to check through the page or site of the application to look for a portable form.



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Posted 07 May 2015 - 08:39 PM

I prefer The Portable Freeware Collection apps to portableapps.com versions.

 

PortableApps require you to install their apps within their own container.  Portable Freeware has usually figured out a way to just add an .ini file to to the install folder and avoid the registry.  If an app isn't truly portable they will warn you.

The need for portableapps application launcher should not be discouraging.  This is easy to unpack into whatever destination you want; and then into which all your applications for PortableApps will be unpacked  (if that is where you want them).  



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Posted 07 May 2015 - 08:51 PM

One other thing to consider is that some third party portable app creators do not check with the original author. In order to gain permission to create a portable version of the application. Therefore the application is not truly a legitimate app. And for all intents and purposes is a pirated copy of the application.


This is the biggest issue. GetDataBackNTFS have a portable version of it, made from the paid version. And I'm pretty sure that if the authors knew about it, they would try to get it taken down.

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Posted 08 May 2015 - 01:36 PM

So are "portable apps" derived from normal programs and made able to run straight from an exe file without installation simply by putting them into some sort of special environment, or bundling some sort of specialised thing around them? Or does the making of portable apps require a portable app maker to modify the original programs code and rebuild it all with modifications amde for portable use?

p.s. does anyone else thing calling them apps seems wrong? Apps implies things from app stores which run in unusual ways and are not normal exe based programs. From what I know these things are true programs so wouldn't "portable programs" be a better description for them? Just to keep the distinction between apps and programs clear.

Reagrding post#7: I agree with the idea that such a thread should be started, even if it doesn't get much in it or many views it could still be useful to some people.

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Posted 10 May 2015 - 05:40 AM

I have been advised both that programs and apps are the same thing;  and conversely that they are significantly different.  I have not found it to be clear yet ---- perhaps a common practice will evolve eventually but for now I tend to refer to 'apps/programs'.  Personally I am inclined to think it is better to use the terms interchangably at least for the time being, because the distinction drawn by some people is rather technical for 'laymen' like myself.  The distinction between 'portable and non-portable' in contrast, is both important and quite clear, I would have thought.

 

Some portable apps/programs are modified versions of 'Desktop' apps/programs (I now have a number on my Memory Card and have uninstalled the Desktop versions to release scarce storage space); some I imagine are original portables.

 

There are dedicated Forums on portable apps/programs sites but as I have found Bleeping usually to be the most helpful and reliable source of advice (among numerous alternatives) I welcome the discussion here.

 

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Posted 10 May 2015 - 09:54 AM

clayto, link us forums where they have a section dedicated to "portable apps/programs", and then I'll explain you something after.

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Posted 10 May 2015 - 10:47 AM

Hello Aura  ---- how do I implement linking?  I have carried out a search for it with no results

 

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