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Windows Update-is This Legit?


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#1 socom 004

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Posted 02 July 2006 - 07:37 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20060630/tc_pcworld/126307
I happened to look at the Windows Update today and I seen an update named Windows Genuine Advantage Notification KB905474. In the article above it mentions an update wgan. Is this update from the Windows Site the same as the one in the article? Any suggestions or replies will be appreciated. Right now I turned off the Auto Update. I have it set to notify me before any downloads are performed.

Edited by socom 004, 02 July 2006 - 07:38 PM.

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Posted 02 July 2006 - 08:07 PM

The one on Windows Update is original and it is ok to download and let run. The other one is not a good one and if you read the article it gets downloaded an entirely different way. If you keep your computer protected with good software for firewall and anti-virus and the other ones you should be ok. I would be really careful about the AOL Instant messenger. I would read the article really good and also send it to all of your friends that use AOL instant messenger Oh what the heck send it to all of your friends and they will be happy that you did.

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Posted 02 July 2006 - 08:21 PM

There has been considerable controversy surrounding Windows Genuine Advantage (WGA).

Suggested reading:

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/55479/microsoft-draws-fire-for-stealth-test-program/

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/ind...mp;#entry302765
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Posted 02 July 2006 - 08:24 PM

Thanks. I don't use AOL so I guess I should be OK. The download I saw is off of the Windows Auto Update site.
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Posted 02 July 2006 - 08:37 PM

Hi Scarlett There is always controversy from anything Microsoft puts out but on this if you read the article the member has posted you will see that this gets passed around using AOL Instant Messenger. As much as I do not find favor with WGA I figure if the software is owned by Microsoft they should be able to do anything they want. I have nothing to hide and if they want to scan me for illegal Microsoft software let them go right ahead. I have to quit this because I can type all night and never get any sleep.

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Posted 02 July 2006 - 08:52 PM

There has been considerable controversy surrounding Windows Genuine Advantage (WGA).

Suggested reading:

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/55479/microsoft-draws-fire-for-stealth-test-program/

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/ind...mp;#entry302765

So should I download the update?
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Posted 02 July 2006 - 09:23 PM

So should I download the update?


If you do it cannot be removed.
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Posted 03 July 2006 - 06:05 PM

socom 004

medab1 is correct as far as I can tell on my system,
once it is there you cant remove it in Control Panel > Add Remove > updates.
Funny though you can remove all other updates.

While researching this issue, I came across another way to zap WGA.
But as you can see, the option is not available.
And as in Add/Remove it is the only one that can not be touched.. :thumbsup:

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It may not be you decision, I had no choice. All other real critical updates were
blocked from me, untill I installed WGA....
Pus it keeps on showing up as a critical update even though... I already installed it! :flowers:

I resent the calling of WGA as a critical update and that I have no choice as to,
installing it. And no choice towards un-installing it.

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Posted 03 July 2006 - 10:16 PM

Scarlett...have you seen the WGA removal download? It was on here somewhere. I used it and it worked, it removed the WGA. What you said is a problem though. I think you do have to have it on your system or you can't get your updates.
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Posted 03 July 2006 - 10:58 PM

I read somewhere (but can't remember where) that Microsoft got so many complaints about users not being able to remove WGA that they made it so that it can now be removed. Or that they were going to make it so that it can be removed.

The thing is you will still have to have it in order to get security updates.
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Posted 04 July 2006 - 02:53 AM

Security updates can be downloaded without WGA, if you search the windows download centre. ;)
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Posted 04 July 2006 - 08:53 AM

Scarlett...have you seen the WGA removal download? It was on here somewhere. I used it and it worked, it removed the WGA. What you said is a problem though. I think you do have to have it on your system or you can't get your updates.



No socom I havent that I can remember. Is this what you are talking about?
RemoveWGA v1.1
http://www.firewallleaktester.com/removewga.htm

I have to have it on my system or I cant get my updates?? :thumbsup:


quiet man posted this:

How to disable or uninstall the pilot version of Microsoft Windows Genuine Advantage Notifications
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/921914/

Supposedly this can be used in place of WGA.
Windows Validation Assistant
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/howtote...ws/default.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/howtote...dation_faq.mspx


Security updates can be downloaded without WGA, if you search the windows download centre. ;)


Where is this excactly? :flowers:

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 10:58 AM


Security updates can be downloaded without WGA, if you search the windows download centre. ;)


Where is this excactly? :thumbsup:


For XP updates - http://tinyurl.com/l5dzg

For IE updates - http://tinyurl.com/h63js

Basically, I went to the Download Centre Advanced Search and searched on keyword=update, product/technology=whatever, and category=windows security & updates.
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Posted 04 July 2006 - 11:08 AM

Thanks Floydoid. :thumbsup: I will check them out when the next updates become available.
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Posted 04 July 2006 - 11:11 AM

Glad to be of assistance Scarlett. :thumbsup:
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