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#1 Jason6161


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Posted 23 March 2015 - 11:24 AM

I run Win 8.1 and have the following security andMcA utility progs:

1. Norton (supplied free by ISP);

2. Constant Guard (supplied free by ISP);

3. Glary Utilities (paid version);

4. McAfee (free from Adobe);

5. CCleaner (recommended by Bob Rankin);

6. PrivaZer (recommended by Bob Rankin);

7. DeFraggler (recommended by Bob Rankin);

8. Avira (free version);

9. AdwCleaner (recommended by Bob Rankin);

10. MBAM (recommended by Bob Rankin);


Plus all of the inherent Windows securities.

Querstion: What should I keep? I really have had no probs except for high CPU usage.

Thanx for any help...thanx for this web site!



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Posted 23 March 2015 - 11:31 AM

Hello, and :welcome: to BC!

In my opinion, these are what you should remove:

1. Glary Utilities - Bleeping Computer does NOT support the use of PC Boosters/Optimizers.

2. McAfee (I assume it's the Security Scan instead of the actual AV suite)

3. Avira - Using two AVs at the same time is a bad idea

You can keep the rest.

Is your MBAM free or Premium?

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Posted 23 March 2015 - 11:48 AM

warning.gifPC Booster/Tune-Up Program Warning!
"PC Booster/Tune Up" programs are part of the worst programs you can install on a system. When it comes to messing up your system (Windows), these are as worst as malware. They are completely worthless and useless to use. The worst is that they'll often take action on your system without you knowing, nor authorizing it, which could lead to your system being altered in a way you don't want it to be or even worst, a "broke" system. Every feature they provide, you can either do it natively under Windows, do it via another standalone executable (which is way easier and safer to use) or they aren't providing something you need. Here's a few examples:
  • Cleaning temporary files: TFC (standalone executable), CCleaner (installed), Cleanmgr.exe (in-built);
  • Managing start-up entries: Autoruns (standalone executable), CCleaner (installed), Task Manager and Registry (in-built);
  • Driver Updater: Not needed, all you need is to go on your manufacturer website so you'll be sure to get the right, official, working drivers for your computer or hardware;
  • Registry Cleaner/Defragger: Completely useless and also dangerous;
  • Disk Defragging: Disk Defrag (in-built), O&O Disk Defrag (installed), Defraggler (installed);
  • Powerful uninstaller: Not needed, only needed when you have to make sure a program is completely uninstalled. Revo Uninstaller have a portable version you can use;
  • "Enhanced" Task Manager: Procexp (standalone executable), Process Hacker (portable or installed);
  • "Active security": Any Antivirus and Antimalware can beat that, easily. These programs aren't made to replace Antivirus or Antimalware products and shouldn't be seen as such;
  • Repair Hard Drive issues: Simple chkdsk /r command under Windows (in-built);
Having such program installing on your system will just bloat it down and you have more chances to have issues by using them than without. These products are advertised as a program that can solve all your issues, remove every malware, speed up your computer performance over 100%, etc. The truth is that there's not a single program that can do that. First of all, these programs aren't made to remove virus and malware, leave this in the hands of Antivirus and Antimalware, period. Secondly, there's so many kind of issues under Windows that there's not a single program that can address them all. If you think that BSOD (Blue Screen of Death) issues can be solved by opening a program and clicking on a "Fix" button, then I'm sorry to tell you but, you're wrong. Also, you cannot boost the performance of a hardware over it's hardware capabilities. Of course you can overclock some components, like your CPU, RAM and GPU, but these aren't done via these programs, but via your BIOS interface. I could recommend you a program for every feature these programs advertise, and also tell you exactly in detail why most of them are completely useless, such as Registry cleaner (dangerous to use), and driver updater (dangerous to use, and also completely useless, it'll not improve your system performance). In the end, buying such programs is the exact same as being scammed (because this is what it is, a pure scam) and using one of these programs will result you in having a system less performant than prior to using it. So if I were you, I would get rid of Glary Utilities.

On top of that, I would get rid of McAfee Security Scan (this is the one provided in the Adobe download). It's not that efficient and there's way better scanners, like ESET Online Scanner. Also I wouldn't worry about AdwCleaner since it's a stand-alone executable, on-demand only so it doesn't take any resources unless you decide to use it.

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Posted 23 March 2015 - 12:37 PM

Thank you both for your very insightful and knowledgeable advice. I will take all recommendations under advisement and re-post on the results. Thanx again!

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Posted 23 March 2015 - 01:11 PM

Glary Utilities
Not all of Glary Utilities are problematic...primarily the the registry repair tool which like CCleaner, I do not recommend using. As long as you don't use that feature, I see nothing wrong with using some of the other utilities which in fact, can be quite useful.

Constant Guard
Be aware, there have been numerous reports over the years in regards to Comcast Constant Guard notices of finding bots. Even if you don't use Constant Guard, Comcast has Constant Guard monitoring traffic. In fact, if you do a Google Search, you will receive millions of similar reports. Below are a couple of topics created here at BC.
* Comcast Says We Have a Bot
* Constant Guard reporting bots

McAfee/Norton Security Scan
Major software vendors like Adobe, Java and others have been bundling third-party software from McAfee and Norton in their download packages which allows users to perform a system checkup of their computers.In response to complaints, McAfee uploaded a KnowledgeBase article explaining how Security Scan Plus was installed and how to remove or prevent if from installing: Unwanted McAfee Security Scan Plus.

You can remove McAfee/Norton Security if you don't use them...I would consider doing that to be optional and a user choice.
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