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#1 lis2180

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 01:46 PM

i just upgrade my motherboard, processor, video card, and new ram. The only things I kept from the old computer was the hard drive and the dvd drive. I had a little problem of getting windows 7 to start but by changing the disk mode from AHCI to IDE, I was able to get windows running. I installed all the new drivers and to the best of my knowledge uninstalled the old drivers. But windows is alot slower now booting up. Any thoughts?



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Posted 22 March 2015 - 02:12 PM

Lis2,

 

Did you UNinstall the old video graphics card drivers? If not, those drivers may still be stuck and causing the slowdown of the bootup.

 

Download and install CCleaner at. https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner

 

Then, open up CCleaner and do both the Clean and Registry sections.

 

Hopefully, that will clear up the slowdown.

 

Report back to us your status after doing the CCleaner.



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Posted 22 March 2015 - 03:04 PM

yes, i uninstalled the old video card. I did all the ccleaner stuff and I even went on my  norton and did all their system cleanup and optimization. still nothing has changed. I checked the startup programs and took some off but still nothing



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Posted 22 March 2015 - 03:26 PM

yes, i uninstalled the old video card. I did all the ccleaner stuff and I even went on my  norton and did all their system cleanup and optimization. still nothing has changed. I checked the startup programs and took some off but still nothing

 

Lis2,

 

But... did you UNinstall the DRIVERS for the old video card? Just because you physically removed the video card from the computer does not make the old video drivers go away.

 

I hate to break it to you... but Norton sucks! Norton uses far too many computer resources that it's not worth keeping on the computer and it WILL slow down your computer. I've seen happen far too many times!

 

Have you gone into the BIOS settings and reset it to Original or Best BIOS settings? That might help as well.

 

Did you try the CCleaner as I suggested?



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Posted 22 March 2015 - 04:02 PM

yes I uninstalled all my old drivers from device manager. I know norton has a tendency to slow down the computer but I haven't had any problems like that even with my old computer setup. I like norton, cause they take care of everything and I never had a problem. Unless you can tell me a better antivirus that is just as good as norton that doesn't use so much computer resources let me know. I looked at the bios settings and just left it how it came, the setup looked about right for me. And yes I did the ccleaner.



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Posted 22 March 2015 - 04:42 PM

Lis2,

 

Ok, I am going to guess that you probably have quite a bit of junk programs that were not detected by Norton.

 

Go to the link below and download the IO Bit Uninstaller program. 

 

Install it and open it up.

 

http://www.iobit.com/advanceduninstaller.php

 

It will present you a list of software that is install on the computer.

 

Go through the list and click on the white UNINSTALL button for each one that you don't want or recognize.

 

Once you go through the list... then click on the circular green/black button at the bottom of the program window.

 

When that is finished. Go ahead and reboot it. Does it look like it's faster?

 

I highly recommend uninstalling ALL of Norton related programs. You can use the IO Bit Uninstaller to do that.

 

Then, download Microsoft Security Essentials at:

 

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=5201

 

I have Malwarebytes Anti-Malware along with MS Security Essentials and I am very well protected and neither program slows down my computer.



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Posted 22 March 2015 - 11:10 PM

Since you updated the motherboard and processor and added the old hard drive to boot up windows 7. you have conflicting drivers of the motherboard,video card, and other things old and new it will cause conflicts . I recommend a fresh re-install of windows 7 that will help you.

 

If you can't please use https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/kb20080710133834EN_EndUserProfile_en_us to remove Norton  and install MSE. 


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Posted 23 March 2015 - 02:50 PM

Chris,

 

Why did you recommend the same thing that I did to Lis2 in regards to removing Norton?



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Posted 23 March 2015 - 04:38 PM

That tool is specific for Norton removal process.  I just thought it would be beneficial in this thread.   


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Posted 23 March 2015 - 07:14 PM

Chris,

 

You're recommending using a removal tool that was created by Norton. That's not going to work.

 

All registry entries and other data there were done by Norton are still in place.

 

You need a tool that will not only remove all registry entries, but remove any unused data, files, and folders related to Norton products in the computer.

 

IO Bit Uninstaller will do the job nicely. I personally use paid version of Revo Uninstaller Pro. 



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Posted 24 March 2015 - 09:35 PM

Why did you set it to IDE?  IDE mode uses different drives from AHCI.  Maybe AHCI setting has drivers that might be better compatible with the chip on the HDD.    My IDE driver would not allow multithreaded reads/writes and the AHCI driver did. Speeding up the multithreaded 4k tests by /at least/ 10x. Whenever I install sata drives I've always set it to  AHCI might be worth checking.  You would probably need to reinstall Windows after changing the bios settings. because by switching to AHCI it won't have the drivers for it so you'll probably BSOD.  Recommend an SSD as your main drive , without any mechanically moving parts you will have faster load times.  http://www.askvg.com/how-to-change-sata-hard-disk-mode-from-ide-to-ahci-raid-in-bios-after-installing-windows/ other ways available online including a fixit.  I http://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/922976

 

If thats not the issue Id recommend testing the HDD as well.  What kind of drive is it?

 

Revo Uninstaller in conjunction with ShouldIRemoveIt?

 

And yes NORTON SECURITY is a huge waste of your computers resources especially if you have Norton Backup.


Edited by illestrate, 24 March 2015 - 09:38 PM.


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Posted 25 March 2015 - 08:35 AM

ok sorry for the long wait on the reply. I uninstalled norton and i am using windows essential. I went into iobit uninstaller and deleted a couple things not much because I usually keep my computer clean anyways. Then I installed a startup manager and thats where I noticed the big difference. It was all the services that startup in the background (not the applications that show up the bar menu, that you can easily take off) when i turn on the computer so I went down the list and took off everything not important to be running on startup. So I got it down from about 6 mins to 3 mins startup time, so I'm happy.

 

And to answer Illestrate, I switched it to IDE because windows was in this endless loop trying to repair itself, and there was no way to get into windows, and I didn't want to fresh install windows because I didn't have the disk. But once I switched it from ACHI to IDE, windows booted perfect and I then went in installed all my new drivers and uninstalled the old drivers, and the first thing I did when the startup was taking forever I thought it was that because of the hard drive was in IDE so I switched it back to ACHI praying that the operating system will still boot and it does. But of course that didn't help with the boot time.



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Posted 25 March 2015 - 03:29 PM

ok sorry for the long wait on the reply. I uninstalled norton and i am using windows essential. I went into iobit uninstaller and deleted a couple things not much because I usually keep my computer clean anyways. Then I installed a startup manager and thats where I noticed the big difference. It was all the services that startup in the background (not the applications that show up the bar menu, that you can easily take off) when i turn on the computer so I went down the list and took off everything not important to be running on startup. So I got it down from about 6 mins to 3 mins startup time, so I'm happy.

 

Lis2,

 

I think in the near future, you will probably want to do a complete fresh installation of Windows 7.

 

What you can do is, start backing up your data, pictures and anything else of value to you. 

 

You can take your time, then once you are done. You can do a fresh installation of Windows 7. 

 

I feel confident that the computer boot up time will be even better after you do the fresh install.

 

When you are ready to do this, let us know and we can give you the proper steps to do it.



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Posted 26 March 2015 - 09:49 AM

Is it

 

 

ok sorry for the long wait on the reply. I uninstalled norton and i am using windows essential. I went into iobit uninstaller and deleted a couple things not much because I usually keep my computer clean anyways. Then I installed a startup manager and thats where I noticed the big difference. It was all the services that startup in the background (not the applications that show up the bar menu, that you can easily take off) when i turn on the computer so I went down the list and took off everything not important to be running on startup. So I got it down from about 6 mins to 3 mins startup time, so I'm happy.

 

Lis2,

 

I think in the near future, you will probably want to do a complete fresh installation of Windows 7.

 

What you can do is, start backing up your data, pictures and anything else of value to you. 

 

You can take your time, then once you are done. You can do a fresh installation of Windows 7. 

 

I feel confident that the computer boot up time will be even better after you do the fresh install.

 

When you are ready to do this, let us know and we can give you the proper steps to do it.

 

 

Is it really necessary to reinstall windows, my computer works perfect I can deal with the 3 min boot up time. Its just I don't have the disk for windows. Other than the boot up time, why do you think I should reinstall it? 



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Posted 26 March 2015 - 10:10 AM

Is it

 

 

ok sorry for the long wait on the reply. I uninstalled norton and i am using windows essential. I went into iobit uninstaller and deleted a couple things not much because I usually keep my computer clean anyways. Then I installed a startup manager and thats where I noticed the big difference. It was all the services that startup in the background (not the applications that show up the bar menu, that you can easily take off) when i turn on the computer so I went down the list and took off everything not important to be running on startup. So I got it down from about 6 mins to 3 mins startup time, so I'm happy.

 

Lis2,

 

I think in the near future, you will probably want to do a complete fresh installation of Windows 7.

 

What you can do is, start backing up your data, pictures and anything else of value to you. 

 

You can take your time, then once you are done. You can do a fresh installation of Windows 7. 

 

I feel confident that the computer boot up time will be even better after you do the fresh install.

 

When you are ready to do this, let us know and we can give you the proper steps to do it.

 

 

Is it really necessary to reinstall windows, my computer works perfect I can deal with the 3 min boot up time. Its just I don't have the disk for windows. Other than the boot up time, why do you think I should reinstall it? 

Lis2,

 

The main reason why I think you may need to reinstall Windows 7 is because there may be some lingering files or unnecessary junk that were not cleaned up.

 

By doing a fresh new installation will assure you that you will have a clean hard drive without any stuff that may be slowing down the computer.

 

However, if you are content with a 3 minute bootup time, then there's no need to take any further action.






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